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call100
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by barbeler:
“It really cheers me up to hear all of these Windows 10 disaster stories. I've made my mind up now. I've had enough of Microsoft and my next PC is going to be one supplied without an operating system and based on Linux, although it's a shame that Linux developers have copied the Android trend for giving each build a playschool name. I can foresee fun and games trying to copy all my old files (and especially programs) over to it, but I'm sure that where there's a will there's a way. I'm in no hurry as I feel my Windows 7 on a brand new hard disk will last me many more years.”

Why would it 'Cheer you up'? Not sure you made the right decision?
You seem to get upset about the smallest thing in an OS, what does it matter what it's called?
You are going to use your W7 machine for many more years, yet felt it necessary to post just to slag off W10?
You'll be fine on Linux, anything that makes your life happy is good. Now the decision is made, there is a thread just for you HERE.....Enjoy....
barbeler
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by call100:
“Why would it 'Cheer you up'?”

It cheers me up because it reassures me that I'm not missing anything.

I only had to read this to give me second thoughts about Linux.

Originally Posted by scooby1970:
“I've been trying out Fedora 15 which is the first distro to use Gnome 3. I've read through the reviews and it seems Gnome 3 is causing as much fuss as Ubuntu's Unity.”

call100
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by barbeler:
“It cheers me up because it reassures me that I'm not missing anything.

I only had to read this to give me second thoughts about Linux. ”

Doesn't take a lot to sway you eh?
I find it strange that having made your decision you still have the need to post in a Windows 10 thread.....
barbeler
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by call100:
“Doesn't take a lot to sway you eh?
I find it strange that having made your decision you still have the need to post in a Windows 10 thread.....”

I've been very restrained, but sometimes it's just too tempting.
TelevisionUser
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by Pierre de Bublé, Washington State:
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"I repeat, Microsoft has no intention of charging for Windows 10"”

Really? Are you sure about that? How can you explain this, then?

http://www.seattletimes.com/business...ll-businesses/

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microso...user-per-year/

http://www.extremetech.com/computing...sses-this-fall

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...on-enterprise/


If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then what exactly is it?
WhatJoeThinks
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by RobinOfLoxley:
“I'd like to see a source for 'tiny'. Certainly a dozen members of your own family perceived problems because they didn't attempt to do it themselves but let you do it.”

That's a rather peculiar way to look at it.

FWIW, I upgraded to Windows 10 on two machines with no problems; my own Windows 7 laptop and a Windows 8 desktop PC. The PC doesn't actually belong to me, but my friend and I keep it in a workshop that we share. He never asked me to upgrade it though, I elected to do it to, so I declare a 100% success rate.

It actually fixed a long-term problem with Windows Media Player on the workshop PC, which had been bugging me for ages, exacerbated by the fact that I was used to using W7 but the PC ran W8 at the time. I'm happy to report that everything works great now, and W10 is great. I can save .psd, .dng and .skp files, for example, take them to the workshop and open them up, print things... No messing.
Mr Dos
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by TelevisionUser:
“Really? Are you sure about that? How can you explain this, then?

http://www.seattletimes.com/business...ll-businesses/

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microso...user-per-year/

http://www.extremetech.com/computing...sses-this-fall

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...on-enterprise/


If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then what exactly is it?”

That's Enterprise - for business. MS could charge 10X that and it would still be tax deductable. The only consumers that will use Enterprise will be the pirates who used W7 Ultimate (when they didn't need it) for bragging rights, and pirates don't pay . . .
call100
13-07-2016
Originally Posted by TelevisionUser:
“Really? Are you sure about that? How can you explain this, then?

http://www.seattletimes.com/business...ll-businesses/

http://www.zdnet.com/article/microso...user-per-year/

http://www.extremetech.com/computing...sses-this-fall

http://www.digitaltrends.com/computi...on-enterprise/


If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then what exactly is it?”

I suggest you start a new thread to discuss enterprise subjects. They are not and never have been really relevant to home users.
CappySpectrum
14-07-2016
Originally Posted by TheBigM:
“What Windows 10 disaster stories?

Have you also heard from the 350 miilion people for whom Windows 10 is fine?”

*Waves the 3 here* Pro, Pro, Home.

One is dual booting between 7 Ultimate and 10 Pro.
oilman
14-07-2016
Originally Posted by CappySpectrum:
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One is dual booting between 7 Ultimate and 10 Pro.”

Is that the Queen?
Mike_1101
14-07-2016
Another machine successfully upgraded to W10, in my case a 7 year old HP Pavilion DV6. I deliberately left the upgrade until after the July 2016 W7 updates which I applied to the machine.

The upgrade (not a clean install) took about 2 hours with 3 minor issues at the end
1 - wireless network would not connect, resolved by connecting to router with a cable. Network card is a Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 so I assume W10 downloaded the driver seperately.
2 - Kaspersky AV claimed to be missing its licence key although after about 20 minutes decided it was there after all.
3 - All applications and files survived the upgrade except for piriform Speccy - now re-installed.

I am now using this laptop on a local account, I thought W10 was supposed to ask for a Microsoft account - but didn't. I do have one for Hotmail but very rarely use it. In addition, all "spying" settings turned off and "Spybot Anti Beacon" turned on. W10 "getting to know me"? I would rather it didn't and it hasn't!

First impressions of W10 are not too bad, it is different but not hard to figure out and I can still use a desktop which is almost the same as W7. Will it stay the same after the big Anniversary release though?
TelevisionUser
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by Mr Dos:
“That's Enterprise - for business. MS could charge 10X that and it would still be tax deductable. The only consumers that will use Enterprise will be the pirates who used W7 Ultimate (when they didn't need it) for bragging rights, and pirates don't pay . . .”

Originally Posted by call100:
“I suggest you start a new thread to discuss enterprise subjects. They are not and never have been really relevant to home users.”

With respect, I do think it's relevant for the following reason. Microsoft made a "no ifs, no buts" promise that there would be no ongoing subscription for Windows 10. They have just gone and broken that promise in respect of enterprise editions of Windows 10 and they can now just as easily break their promise that the domestic use versions won't go subscription (although I suspect it will take a bit longer to bring in).
oilman
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by TelevisionUser:
“With respect, I do think it's relevant for the following reason. Microsoft made a "no ifs, no buts" promise that there would be no ongoing subscription for Windows 10. They have just gone and broken that promise in respect of enterprise editions of Windows 10 and they can now just as easily break their promise that the domestic use versions won't go subscription (although I suspect it will take a bit longer to bring in).”

The latest rumour is they are bringing in annual maintenance charges for Windows 7/8 to encourage people to move to Windows 10.
oilman
15-07-2016
insider version 14390 being downloaded right now.
RobinOfLoxley
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by TelevisionUser:
“With respect, I do think it's relevant for the following reason. Microsoft made a "no ifs, no buts" promise that there would be no ongoing subscription for Windows 10. They have just gone and broken that promise in respect of enterprise editions of Windows 10 and they can now just as easily break their promise that the domestic use versions won't go subscription (although I suspect it will take a bit longer to bring in).”

Did they really mean that or was it always the intention that they didn't mean Enterprise versions?


I daresay the T&Cs will have a clause saying "Subject to change without notice"


And I wouldn't be at all surprised if they decide to make Windows 11 sometime too.
Stig
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by oilman:
“The latest rumour is they are bringing in annual maintenance charges for Windows 7/8 to encourage people to move to Windows 10.”

Got a link? It sounds like made up nonsense to me.
s2k
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by TelevisionUser:
“With respect, I do think it's relevant for the following reason. Microsoft made a "no ifs, no buts" promise that there would be no ongoing subscription for Windows 10. They have just gone and broken that promise in respect of enterprise editions of Windows 10 and they can now just as easily break their promise that the domestic use versions won't go subscription (although I suspect it will take a bit longer to bring in).”

I stand to be corrected but I'm sure the Enterprise version of Windows has only ever (legitimately) been available to business customers with a software assurance plan? Ie. you can't buy one-off perpetual licenses for it.
oilman
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by Stig:
“Got a link? It sounds like made up nonsense to me. ”

Of course it's nonsense just like all the conspiracy theories. My real point is that the current discussions are nonsense too.

If you buy a licence, or given one for free, you cannot later turn it into a lease licence.

Of course MS could introduce an optional fee for maintenance but why just pick out windows 10 - it would make acually make more sense to target those who have not upgraded?

If they could do it for Windows 10, they could do it for any version

Why on earth would MS want to discourage people to use Windows 10 - the OS is basically there to ensnare people into using MS Office etc, where they make their real money.
Maxatoria
15-07-2016
Originally Posted by TelevisionUser:
“With respect, I do think it's relevant for the following reason. Microsoft made a "no ifs, no buts" promise that there would be no ongoing subscription for Windows 10. They have just gone and broken that promise in respect of enterprise editions of Windows 10 and they can now just as easily break their promise that the domestic use versions won't go subscription (although I suspect it will take a bit longer to bring in).”

You are comparing the enterprise version license with the domestic version, when you agree to the enterprise license you agree to a hell of a lot different set of rules than if you buy from pcworld for example......MS licensing is a royal pain in the arse FULL STOP, they keep trying to simplify it but it normally makes thing worse.
alanwarwic
15-07-2016
Sound a finanially sound move by Microsoft. It shows exactly why that recent Pro update went and made things problematic for business users.

They want them on Enterprise subscriptions.
oilman
16-07-2016
Originally Posted by oilman:
“insider version 14390 being downloaded right now.”

So this is a "real" rumour.

http://www.winranx.com/windows-10-in...ersary-update/

Since it was released on 16th July, this makes sense as that date was always believed to be the date for Insiders to get RS1
oilman
16-07-2016
Originally Posted by oilman:
“So this is a "real" rumour.

http://www.winranx.com/windows-10-in...ersary-update/

Since it was released on 16th July, this makes sense as that date was always believed to be the date for Insiders to get RS1”

General opinion on other sites is that this a bullshit article, and belief is updates will continue until as close to Aug 2nd as possible.

However, the MS servers have been out most ofthe day - maybe the final preparation.....?
RobinOfLoxley
16-07-2016
Originally Posted by oilman:
“However, the MS servers have been out most ofthe day - maybe the final preparation.....?”

I been wondering why I couldn't get Media Creation Tool today (just a blank page)

But majorgeeks.com has a copy of the tool and it downloads the iso.

Strange.
TelevisionUser
16-07-2016
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“Sound a finanially sound move by Microsoft. It shows exactly why that recent Pro update went and made things problematic for business users.

They want them on Enterprise subscriptions.”

...such as their disabling of administrative control over access to the Microsoft app store so that businesses have to upgrade to (the more expensive) enterprise versions of Windows 10 to regain that functionality.

Unfortunately, I don't have any quantitative data, but I have seen an increasing number of cases where smaller businesses and government/civic departments have been moving over to the Windows-like Linux Mint and Zorin to escape Windows enterprise costs such as this example: http://fossbytes.com/italy-vicenza-a...place-windows/
Maxatoria
16-07-2016
Originally Posted by TelevisionUser:
“...such as their disabling of administrative control over access to the Microsoft app store so that businesses have to upgrade to (the more expensive) enterprise versions of Windows 10 to regain that functionality.

Unfortunately, I don't have any quantitative data, but I have seen an increasing number of cases where smaller businesses and government/civic departments have been moving over to the Windows-like Linux Mint and Zorin to escape Windows enterprise costs such as this example: http://fossbytes.com/italy-vicenza-a...place-windows/”

While some towns etc may decide to take the penguin route most will stay with what they know as they'll reduce the costs on training / support calls and most importantly they don't have any guarantee that in 5 days the development team of half their projects will just give up and fork everything into another linux version.
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