W10 wasn't just made for you or your PC, however, if you don't want something on your particular set up you just uninstall it, as you have always done.
There is none of what you mention on my menu as it's set up how I want it.
However, you obviously enjoy CS, and don't have the time to set it to satisfy your needs, so, good luck, at the end of the day, it's each to their own.

Windows 8 defaulted to the full screen touch UI Start screen, even if you had a desktop PC. It removed the familiar Windows UI that had evolved from XP, 7 and Vista.
The fact that Classic Shell could put all those features back and all the new touch features (which are great on a tablet) still worked clearly proves that there was no reason to remove them other than to try to force people to use the new UI.

If that wasn't the reason then why did they remove the Start button and menu?

And how you can accuse me of misleading when I'm posting my own personal experience? Windows 8 did default to the tablet UI with the full screen Start menu.
8.1, which you mentioned, went some way towards fixing those concerns. W10 went further still, hence not needing Classic Shell.

I would agree that app now means a mobile program optimised for touch use. Hence Windows 10 has both an App UI and a desktop UI and has apps and programs.
Word is a program. Word Mobile is an app. Chrome is a program. The Twitter app is an app.

Yes we have, in fact most of us have. However, following the launch of W8.1 apps/programs like CS became superfluous to requirements. Why use something like CS which takes you back in time. I think it actually prevents/hinders learning of something new and therefore should be avoided at all costs.

W95, 98 XP Vista W7 etc. etc. all belong to the past. For goodness sake it's time to move on. The new W10 start menu is actually rather good especially when personalised.

Yeah - totally agree. It is tedious listening/reading to people who want to live in the past.

My laptop (HP Pavilion g6) tried to update to Windows 10, version 1607 this morning and failed, rolling back.

I view the update history and clicking "Failed to install" and "More Info" I get taken to a Microsoft support page saying "This page doesn’t exist."

What now

When all that you require is a user guide, trust and advice are moot. There are ways to customize the W10 start menu, and people's opinions have nothing to do with it. You just needed to Google for the instructions.

I certainly wasn't accusing you of laziness. More like computer-specific technophobia. If you needed to change the clock on your microwave oven, or set your TV digibox to record something, all you need is the basic instructions. It's exactly the same with operating systems.

Does it give you an error code you can look up to get a clue as to why the upgrade failed?

A couple of things that have affected my upgrades at various times.
(a) There needs to be sufficient space on the HDD (about 20GB).
(b) If you've dual booted, the partition containing the boot loader has to be the active partition.

If there's nothing obvious you could try again using the Microsoft Media Creation Tool.
That often gives better results than the Windows Update method.
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/soft...load/windows10

Had the anniversary update foisted on me earlier this afternoon. Not a huge fan of the "new" menu really.

The figging anniversary update has ruined my netbook kodi system.

I've now got bad sound, and nothing I do will get rid of it.

Tried updating and rolling back the sound drivers but still the sound is bad.

Just ignore the anniversary update. There's no point in it whatsoever.

Indeed. MS literally just released it for shits and giggles. /s

At some point however they are going to say you need to be on a minimum build number to remain in support.

Why ignore it? I downloaded it to three machines, all very different hardware and it installed as expected - flawlessly.

Advising people to ignore important updates is a very irresponsible thing to do. Technically someone may have a case against you if something bad happened and it was proved it was as a direct result of your advice.

As said previously you can now personalise in order to make it just like you want it. What's not to like about that?

But most sensible people are going to ignore "advice" like that anyway, which is just personal opinion, not an expert view;.

I wasn't aware of that, but i'll look in to it. I'd gotten quite used to the menu I suppose so if i can have that back i'll be quite happy.

Well, the AU has messed up my laptop that was running super smoothly until now. Graphics are mostly affected and the laptop is now slow and sluggish. It also for some reason deactivated Windows Defender and wouldn't let me turn it back on but eventually I managed to get that working. At first I thought I had a virus.

Now I'm going to have to back-up all the latest files I had created/downloaded and then restore the laptop back to standard W10 and turn off updates. I cannot use it the way it is where the graphics keep freezing or glitching and the whole system runs slow.

Well done Microsoft... arseholes!

Exactly what is in the Anniversary Update that is in any way important? My version is updating itself without any problems whatsoever. Unless somebody can convince me otherwise, all the Anniversary Update does is add a load of apps that I don't want and links to shopping sites.

The New Microsoft has turned what was once a really good OS (Win7) into a piece of advert bloated rubbish that only seems to do more harm than good.

They are trying to moneytorise the OS and Governments need to do something to stop this monopoly.

You are very wrong in your assessment of W10. It is actually a much better version of W7. Think of it as W7 in its Sunday best clothes.

I wouldn't argue the point that MS are trying to recoup the costs of providing the OS gratis.

I've absolutely no problem with you ignoring updates, just like I would have no problem with you leaving your house unlocked when you go out.

However, advising others to do likewise is not a sensible course of action.

But I'm not ignoring updates. Windows Update is working perfectly and is currently right up to date. I don't regard the 'Anniversary Update' as a genuine update at all, just a glorified money spinning, spam generator.

Where are these adverts?
I sometimes read these posts and have to double check that I actually have W10, because it bears no resemblance to the mythological OS some seem to have got from somewhere....

Can you even do that? Permanently turn off updates or control which ones you get?

I have turned off the Anniversary update in my W10 Pros but apparently that will only defer it for a while, and in the lower versions, even that isn't possible.

Or does someone know better?

MS have said you have to remain 6 months in date or support will stop.

There are ways around turning it off permanently, or locking out drivers, none are really satisfatory.

You could have a play with Shutup 10, WUMT, WUMT Wrapper.


As usual, make a Full System Backup first and repeat before every update, since you never know when System Restore gets disabled.