Why is everyone obsessing about this alleged privacy issue. Siri is also listening, that's how it learns and how it works.

Are the vast majority of people engaged in such nefarious activities on a grand scale that they want to hide all traces of what they are doing? I suspect the only people that are in a panic about this are the ones that are up to no good whilst everyone else is pretty relaxed about it.

Our cousins across the pond seem to be the ones who get in the biggest lather about all of this to the point of being paranoid.

It's getting a tad tedious now.....Check what google and apple know about you and then what MS/Bing know about you.
I'm sure not many want to get rid of their phones. The vast majority don't really give a fig about the issue.

I don't know what your C4D workflow is, but for movies mine is -

C4D > tiffs > comp in After Effects > Adobe Media Encoder > h.264

I'd had one or two W10 C4D crashes in say 6 months, and it's no big deal - I just restart the render and since it's just a tiff sequence, it picks up where it left off. If you are rendering straight to avi etc, then a crash means doing the whole thing again from frame 0 - a PITA.

If we buy a phone, be it Android or Apple, we know that it grabs data, that is how they work, without doing it a smart phone would to be honest be mainly useless, I do turn location off on my phone, I know where I am, but there are other options if you want a mobile phone, just buy a normal non-smart phone. So we know what we are getting.

Windows is a different thing, sure there have always been some sort of feed back system, but until now it could be switched off, now all of a sudden, if you buy a windows based machine you do not have that option and to be honest a lot of it is not required on a home computer, there is no need for location, even if it is incorrect on my computer.

My home computer is a lot different to my mobile phone, I use it for a lot of data that I would not put on my mobile phone, private letters and emails for instance, something I do not use my phone for. I now trust Ms so little that if i am writing a letter I change over to my Linux drive.

MS have also shown that they can not be trusted with the way they pushed windows 10 and also the way they are now pushing updates, giving people little choice.

Why not allow people to shut down Cortana? If it is not being used then it is not needed to be in the background, as of yet I have had no answer to why it is still running, even Microsoft have not given answer.

People have a right to privacy, i know youngsters seems to give out all their information to anyone, but some of use likes privacy or as much as we can anyway.

I render to png and then import the image sequence into Hitfilm.

I do not use Google, not for searching anyway or bing for that matter.

Maybe the vast majority should give a fig about the issue, this is why our privacy is being invaded.

I am spied on enough at work with cameras covering almost my every move, apart from the canteen and toilets and also when I log into the computers and handsets, I do not want it at home.

Recommend you stick to a pen and paper, and an abacus then.

The new Windows paint app look interesting;
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/7/13...windows-10-app

Expect it will something they will be showcasing in the Microsoft Windows 10 event on October 26th.

MS have a few things coming, a new Surface Pro and maybe an AiO desktop (according to rumors).

I heard these make a subliminal hissing sound.

I seriously think you have issues about security verging on the paranoia. My home PC thinks I'm at least two hundred miles from my actual location.

From the end of October all updates to W7 and 8.1 will be monthly just like W10 and you will not be able to pick and choose which ones you want. This is going to put people in a real lather I expect.

i know about MS new update system, a way to put anything in their updates without us noticing. but that is easy to solve, just do not update. My image of windows 8.1, the one I was running before i installed Windows 10 have had the updates turned off, in fact it works better as there are no windows updates to muck it up.

I have Issues with Microsoft, they are getting too big for their boots and think they can do what they want. Just a shame there is no real alternative.

What is the harm of Microsoft giving us more control over updates and information being sent to them? If they gave us that control and made Windows 10 look better, I may be prepared to stick with it.

Well, i tried it for a week.

Could be, I play safe these days and keep phones and laptops in a Faraday cage...beat that MS

Now your going back to 8.1 I take it we will no longer have any contributions from you on any W10 thread... four or five of us here are relieved to know this

The reasons for the roll up monthly update is due to fragmentation becoming a much worse problem and actually causing issues with consumers hardware.

I can't believe anyone would be foolish enough to turn off updates and actually stay connected to the Internet.

Many thousands of XP users would think differently.

Yes, there are valid concerns over Windows 10's data gathering conduct and the way that significant updates can reset personal settings but there are valid alternatives to Windows 10. Examples include Chromebooks for light, casual use, macOS on Apple products and hackintoshes and Linux which has good productivity suites in the form of FreeOffice and WPS Office and quite a variety of Microsoft software can be used on Linux via Wine/Crossover (I have done this myself).


Tbh, I really would recommend upgrading to a later, supported version of Windows or another operating system if the XP computer is connected to the internet.

Well what's the saying - you can't argue with stupid?

The reason why there is less control over updates in Windows 10 is that some users are stupid enough to turn them off completely.

I heard that, but if that is true why have they not done it before on other versions of windows?


I know someone who uses XP and it is not updated and yet do not have a problem, in fact they said they have never known it so reliable since MS stopped supporting it.

Also what happens when Windows 7 and 8.1 is not updated any more, do you think all those users will say go and change to windows 10? More so for windows 7 as there are still a lot of users for that.

If you are careful then there is no problem,

I have heard that one of the newer updates in one of the rings have have stopped the resetting of settings and default when you update, why that could not have been done before I do not know.

Chrome books are ok if you want all your stuff to be on the cloud, but they are pretty limited, Apples are nice machines and a nice OS, but so much over priced. Hackintosh will only work with certain hardware. Linux is good, I love Linux, but the software I need is not there and while wine is ok, it do not run the software I want to run.
so I am stuck with windows, unless I do go for a Mac, but I have spent so much on software, I would have to start again.

I found a way to stop cortana running in the background, rename a folder and windows 10 can not find it and will not run it, so it is now not in my tasks.
Spybot gets rid of other stuff, but still not sure if it gets rid of the telemetrics,



I know people still using Xp and have had no problems, even big companies are still using XP.

I know sites using nt 3.51 and stuff so ancient it must of been installed by Noah himself but they know the risks and have people who know what they're doing to protect them, the average user wouldn't know what a data packet was or ports were if you zapped them with a cattle prod.

Running XP or older should be considered like running a classic car....you need to know what you're doing and accept things like ABS brakes etc are not available should you mess up.

Re: the XP user not having a problem. How on earth would they know? Malware or Viruses don't jump out on the screen shouting 'here I am look at me'. That is a ridiculous thing to claim and simply demonstrates ignorance on the part of the user.

Online criminality is so rife because people don't keep their systems protected by using the latest updates, AV or Malware protected. People's complacency never fails to astonish me.

Dilbert:

Never argue with idiots.

They drag you down to their level.

Then they beat you with experience.

Antivirus is always updated on the machine, we also use a virus checker on a USB stick once a month that checks the computer before it boots up.

The computer is too old to update, I do not see Windows 10 running that well on a P4 to be honest.
It is fine, i keep an eye on it, it is not connected 24/7 anyway, only connected to the net when there is a need to and that is only for sending files around the home network.