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Old 13-11-2016, 13:21
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How long is the anniversary update supposed to take to install?

I have a laptop, literally 3 days old, it has been stuck on 8% for the past 4 hours...

I love it how some of you have 'never had an issue with Windows 10 ever'

There is literally NOTHING installed on this brand new laptop of mine, so why is it borked?
Updates these days try not to interfere with the general day to day running of a machine so its probably better just to take the dog down the pub for a few jars then have a long bath.

Also new machines can have loads of crap installed which may interfere with the process.
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Old 13-11-2016, 14:35
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Updates these days try not to interfere with the general day to day running of a machine so its probably better just to take the dog down the pub for a few jars then have a long bath.

Also new machines can have loads of crap installed which may interfere with the process.
There's no crap installed, I made sure.
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Old 13-11-2016, 14:58
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Do MS update the W10 ISO on a regular basis? The reason I ask is that last week I fitted an SSD drive in a friends PC. She purchased W10 from MS and I burnt the ISO to DVD booted up the new machine and it simply installed. Installed the motherboard drivers and its all gone smoothly. She's had a few updates but they install when your not using the computer and were not big.
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Old 13-11-2016, 15:07
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Do MS update the W10 ISO on a regular basis? The reason I ask is that last week I fitted an SSD drive in a friends PC. She purchased W10 from MS and I burnt the ISO to DVD booted up the new machine and it simply installed. Installed the motherboard drivers and its all gone smoothly. She's had a few updates but they install when your not using the computer and were not big.
Since upgrading to windows 10 I have had regular updates almost weekly over the last month. It can be a little annoying as I usually close things down on an evening. You then have to update it during the day. Luckily the last 3 updates haven't taken long but one took almost 30 minutes to update.
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Old 14-11-2016, 09:11
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Do MS update the W10 ISO on a regular basis? The reason I ask is that last week I fitted an SSD drive in a friends PC. She purchased W10 from MS and I burnt the ISO to DVD booted up the new machine and it simply installed. Installed the motherboard drivers and its all gone smoothly. She's had a few updates but they install when your not using the computer and were not big.
The iso is updated each time there is a build upgrade but not that frequently thereafter. The new cumulative update model is such that it does not really make much difference if you installed updates or not.

Contrary to popular belief the cumulative update does not just grow and grow. It can shrink as well as stuff can be removed or replaced with more efficiently coded versions. It is sort of like differential backups from Macrium Reflect Free.

The new model is far superior to the old style windows 7 update where you had to install old updates and then install updated versions of the updates - it was like a merry go round at times!


So in summary, Windows 10 is always updated with a new build but not that frequently but makes little difference anyway.
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Old 14-11-2016, 13:36
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Still bloody waiting, no sign of the update. I'm hoping the WIndows Update delivered one works better than the media tool, all three installs so far have rolled back during the migrating data phase
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Old 14-11-2016, 14:00
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The iso is updated each time there is a build upgrade but not that frequently thereafter. The new cumulative update model is such that it does not really make much difference if you installed updates or not.

Contrary to popular belief the cumulative update does not just grow and grow. It can shrink as well as stuff can be removed or replaced with more efficiently coded versions. It is sort of like differential backups from Macrium Reflect Free.

The new model is far superior to the old style windows 7 update where you had to install old updates and then install updated versions of the updates - it was like a merry go round at times!


So in summary, Windows 10 is always updated with a new build but not that frequently but makes little difference anyway.
BIB is incorrect. This is why MS are moving to differential updates. I have to say after the initial congratulatory back-slapping on the release of AU, things have been on the slide, updating has been pain and misery.
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Old 14-11-2016, 14:13
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Still bloody waiting, no sign of the update. I'm hoping the WIndows Update delivered one works better than the media tool, all three installs so far have rolled back during the migrating data phase
Backup all MS and non-MS existing drivers with Double Driver. Even W7/8/8.1 drivers may be useful in future.
Uninstall old/unused programs
Run Disk Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe or even cleanmgr.exe /maxclean)
Run Windows Update
Disable AV
Disconnect from Internet during Install (disable Wifi in Device Manager / Unplug ethernet cable)

As far as I know, offline install via Media Creation Tool is still the most reliable method
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Old 14-11-2016, 23:30
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BIB is incorrect. This is why MS are moving to differential updates. I have to say after the initial congratulatory back-slapping on the release of AU, things have been on the slide, updating has been pain and misery.

Not incorrect but still not that efficient. I can assure you sometimes the cumulative update has actually shrunk but MOSTLY it increases. The new method will be more efficient still.
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Old 15-11-2016, 21:21
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The photo app has suddenly changed on my laptop. Instead of scrolling through pics using the mouse wheel and using the bottom right corner buttons to zoom arrow ad delete buttons are now at the bottom centre of the page and is much more awkward to use. Is this an update or have I pressed something accidentally? How do I change it back?
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Old 15-11-2016, 22:06
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Not incorrect but still not that efficient. I can assure you sometimes the cumulative update has actually shrunk but MOSTLY it increases. The new method will be more efficient still.
So can you confirm, if I miss a couple of months of Updates, including 2 x Cumulative Updates, it doesn't matter, as long as I then start updating again?
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Old 16-11-2016, 07:40
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The photo app has suddenly changed on my laptop. Instead of scrolling through pics using the mouse wheel and using the bottom right corner buttons to zoom arrow ad delete buttons are now at the bottom centre of the page and is much more awkward to use. Is this an update or have I pressed something accidentally? How do I change it back?
The Photos App has been updated, if you don't like it then find another in the MS Store.

Think it was installed on one of the recent Windows 10 updates, go to the MS Store for updates to it, and other Photo Apps. The Old App is not in there.
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Old 16-11-2016, 07:50
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So can you confirm, if I miss a couple of months of Updates, including 2 x Cumulative Updates, it doesn't matter, as long as I then start updating again?
Yes - that is its major strength as you do not get stuck in the updates to update type of loop of earlier versions. I recently updated an old laptop that had not had any updates on AU since it came out as I had been a bit lazy keeping it up to date and it just updated to latest version with no sweat.
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Old 16-11-2016, 09:52
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Thanks. That will be handy for my 2 x W10 Pro laptops that dual boot with W10 Home and W7 (effectively 4 machines)

I don't think the W10 feature of grabbing updates from each other, instead of re-downloading from MS, is working for me.
I can of course download the offline KBxxxxxx installers but WU also fails to recognise when I have manually installed them and wants to redownload automatically.

It's all a bit of a faff and bandwidth hungry with Cumulative Updates at 800MB a pop.
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Old 16-11-2016, 10:26
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Talking of photos, when you view them, in the old days of Windows 7, when you used the scroll wheel on your mouse it would zoom in and out on the photo, now it moves to the next picture.

Is there a setting I am missing to bring this old functionality back?
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Old 16-11-2016, 10:49
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How long is the anniversary update supposed to take to install?

I have a laptop, literally 3 days old, it has been stuck on 8% for the past 4 hours...

I love it how some of you have 'never had an issue with Windows 10 ever'

There is literally NOTHING installed on this brand new laptop of mine, so why is it borked?
The updates sometimes do that. It you want the update and auto is not playing ball then go to the MS website, download the update and install it manually - it's not difficult, just a few mouse clicks.
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Old 16-11-2016, 11:12
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The updates sometimes do that. It you want the update and auto is not playing ball then go to the MS website, download the update and install it manually - it's not difficult, just a few mouse clicks.
I think it wasn't understanding the anniversary update correctly. I didn't know at the time it was like a whole new installtion of Windows 10 which was going to leave me with a windows.old folder etc and change half my settings...

I thought I was quite savvy when it came to windows but 10 seems to be my nemesis so far, we dont match, there are issues between us at the minute.

I would sell my soul (maybe not) to go to Windows 7 and never have to put myself through this again, unfortunately, it is a brand new laptop with 10 installed so unless I want to pony up for a Windows 7 licence and go through the clean install process, I am stuck with this - a decision only I can make.

Also, can I no longer put 'My Computer' on the desktop anymore? If not, why not?

'Make Windows your own' it says only as long as its what we say you can do...
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Old 16-11-2016, 11:54
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Also, can I no longer put 'My Computer' on the desktop anymore? If not, why not?
Clicking the folder on the taskbar is basically the same as My Computer. I can't find anywhere that will allow it to be sent to the desktop.
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Old 16-11-2016, 12:06
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https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=w1...utf-8&oe=utf-8
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Old 16-11-2016, 12:08
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The photo app has suddenly changed on my laptop. Instead of scrolling through pics using the mouse wheel and using the bottom right corner buttons to zoom arrow ad delete buttons are now at the bottom centre of the page and is much more awkward to use. Is this an update or have I pressed something accidentally? How do I change it back?
the original windows photo viewer is still on Windows ten, or it was. this link will show you how to get it back, I find it far better than the app that is on windows 10
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Old 16-11-2016, 12:48
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Also, can I no longer put 'My Computer' on the desktop anymore? If not, why not?

'Make Windows your own' it says only as long as its what we say you can do...
"My Computer" is now called 'This PC'. But you can always rename the desktop icon if that makes it more familiar for you.

As RobinOfLoxley's link shows, you can still put the icon on the desktop. Just type "icons" into the search box and the Control Panel item 'Show or hide common desktop icons' will be there.
Tick the box against 'Computer' and click Apply and OK.

If it still doesn't show then right click the desktop, hover over 'View' and make sure 'show desktop icons' is ticked.

ETA: If you knew all that, but are still having problems, then explore the sites in RobinOf Loxley's link for a solution.
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Old 16-11-2016, 14:44
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IE is what we use at work and until Microsoft allow add ons to Edge and it works with all security stuff then we will remain with IE.
Hope that is just for work use and not general stuff, I dislike forced IE to go on stuff like Twitter.
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Old 16-11-2016, 15:11
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Clicking the folder on the taskbar is basically the same as My Computer. I can't find anywhere that will allow it to be sent to the desktop.
for goodness sake, do you want me to send our dog round to show you how it's done?
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Old 16-11-2016, 15:57
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Haha, thanks for the tips, will try later.

What about using the scroll wheel on the mouse to zoom in and out? Has that gone now?
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Old 16-11-2016, 16:39
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Is Google broken again? https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=w1...utf-8&oe=utf-8
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