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You're probably doing the right thing. The people that will benefit mostly are the people with software on their laptop which was designed for a tablet!(windows 8).
I wonder how many people like me ar thinking that this is the last chance for Microsoft before I go fully Apple. |
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I'm in that boat, I've been using Windows since 3.1 but I think they seem to have lost their way. I am due a computer upgrade, I'll give 10 a chance but if its shite I'm off to Apple
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If your workplace has any sense it won't allow any updates on company machines until they have fully tested it with all of their in-house applications. As an IT manager, the last thing you need when you have 1000 PCs to support is people manually downloading Windows 10 onto their work machine.
The vast majority of companies are still on Windows 7 (and some on XP) because there wasn't any benefit to them for going to Windows 8 - and there were lots of problems too. Windows 10 is a different proposition though and there are some significant advantages so you will slowly see corporate IT departments upgrading - though the never do anything fast. |
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I'm very ancient and not into Games at all. I had to get a new DeskTop Tower as although I was very happy with XP, the system was 10yrs old and very very slow.
I now have BT fibre optic connection and Windows 8.1. I find it so hard to understand what with APPS and Bing??? and all sorts of rubbish. It has already cost me an additional £50 to get IT specialist to clean out some Automatic Updates that were causing me problems. I wish I'd never heard of 8.1. I had to buy a new Camera as my perfectly good SONY DSC P92 was not compatible with 8.1 which refused to accept the Sony Driver. I now have a Nikon Coolpix S3500 and find it harder to use than the Sony, not to take pic's but to put them on PC and recover to email them. |
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Quite happy with Vista thanks all the same.
Although, according to Microsoft you can install from a blank partition, so presumably there is a product id/serial key check as part of the process.
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Still not sure if I'll upgrade.
I have 7 on my desktop - I doubt very much I'll upgrade that at the mo, and 8.1 with Classic Shell on my laptop (non touch). I use 10 on my desktop with VMware - I just can't seem to get excited about it, like I have with previous versions of Windows.... |
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I shall wait for all the issues everyone else will undoubtedly have on release to be fixed then download.
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Why Apple, their iShit is aimed at the masses of sheep who'd rather pay extortionate prices for style over substance. If you're serious about veering away from Windows, then why not install some flavour of Linux instead? Debian would be a good place to start.
The problem with Linux is the lack of software and the quality of some of it. If you are just going to browse the net and use office type software then it is fine. I would have gone for Linux as my main OS if the software I want to use was better. I am looking at Apple myself, maybe a Mac mini at some point. |
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Dedian for a beginner? something like Mint would be better.
The problem with Linux is the lack of software and the quality of some of it. If you are just going to browse the net and use office type software then it is fine. I would have gone for Linux as my main OS if the software I want to use was better. I am looking at Apple myself, maybe a Mac mini at some point. |
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I had to buy a new Camera as my perfectly good SONY DSC P92 was not compatible with 8.1 which refused to accept the Sony Driver. I now have a Nikon Coolpix S3500 and find it harder to use than the Sony, not to take pic's but to put them on PC and recover to email them.
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I'm very ancient and not into Games at all. I had to get a new DeskTop Tower as although I was very happy with XP, the system was 10yrs old and very very slow.
I now have BT fibre optic connection and Windows 8.1. I find it so hard to understand what with APPS and Bing??? and all sorts of rubbish. It has already cost me an additional £50 to get IT specialist to clean out some Automatic Updates that were causing me problems. I wish I'd never heard of 8.1. I had to buy a new Camera as my perfectly good SONY DSC P92 was not compatible with 8.1 which refused to accept the Sony Driver. I now have a Nikon Coolpix S3500 and find it harder to use than the Sony, not to take pic's but to put them on PC and recover to email them. |
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Wouldn't it have been cheaper to just buy a memory card reader to copy the photos from the Sony cameras memory stick onto the computer rather than buying a complete new camera?
I've always just pulled the memory card out and put it into a card reader. Much less of a faff. All my camera leads are still sealed in their poly bags in the camera boxes in some landfill site! |
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You're probably doing the right thing. The people that will benefit mostly are the people with software on their laptop which was designed for a tablet!(windows 8).
I wonder how many people like me ar thinking that this is the last chance for Microsoft before I go fully Apple. |
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In the usability front Linux is a step back from Windows. I've tried various distros over the years, there is always an issue with something whether it be drivers or whatever and you need to use terminal and I don't have a clue and further more have no interest in learning. I want something that just works and for the most part Windows and OS X just work
I will sort it out when I have time. i have linux on this computer (mint) and no problem at all, I have had no need to use terminal what so ever. |
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I'm surprised that people even connect their digital cameras to their computers.
I've always just pulled the memory card out and put it into a card reader. Much less of a faff. All my camera leads are still sealed in their poly bags in the camera boxes in some landfill site! Also I can copy files from two devices at the same time with cables. |
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I shall wait for all the issues everyone else will undoubtedly have on release to be fixed then download.
![]() But that's why I now have a clean drive waiting for it and if it all goes pair-shaped, I just plug my Windows 7 drive back in. |
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I normally connect my video camera to my computer via the lead, it is easier when I have got the video camera and still camera, plus the Zoom mic as the same cable fits in all three, easier than taking cards out, certainly with the zoom mike, with its tiny card.
Also I can copy files from two devices at the same time with cables. The problem with a lot of digital cameras is that manufacturers like to use their own proprietary connectors, even when the cable is just using USB, so you end up with a pile of different cables with connectors that are a tiny bit different making them all incompatible with each other. I just picked up a new panasonic lx100 camera as I wanted something small to carry on my bike and it came with a proprietary cable that isn't even compatible with my old panasonic camera. It does have built in wifi but it takes about 20 seconds to transfer each raw image to the PC. It is far easier and quicker to just pull out the memory card and copy the files off. |
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I'm surprised that people even connect their digital cameras to their computers.
I've always just pulled the memory card out and put it into a card reader. Much less of a faff. All my camera leads are still sealed in their poly bags in the camera boxes in some landfill site! |
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Horses for courses. I find it easier to plug a lead in, rather than open a cover, take out the card and put it in the PC. I keep the camera lead with my camera.
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it is much easier taking the memory card out
If it's a standard Mini or Micro USB, then I already have the leads connected to the back of my PC. If it's a proprietary lead, then I take the card out. |
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I am going to say that we should only have basics for the not so technicality minded people on this thread. Anything more technical should be in the computing forum. I made this GD thread for the casual user not the experts as their discussion is elsewhere on DS forums. This also means that discussion on prototype version should really be kept off here too.
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I am going to say that we should only have basics for the not so technicality minded people on this thread. Anything more technical should be in the computing forum. I made this GD thread for the casual user not the experts as their discussion is elsewhere on DS forums. This also means that discussion on prototype version should really be kept off here too.
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Fair enough. I did wonder why you started the thread here, but now I understand.
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Video cameras are normally a bit different as they often store the video on internal memory or on a Mini DV cassette. It is often faster and easier to just plug the video camera in and transfer the videos directly over USB or firewire.
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The problem with a lot of digital cameras is that manufacturers like to use their own proprietary connectors, even when the cable is just using USB, so you end up with a pile of different cables with connectors that are a tiny bit different making them all incompatible with each other. That is the problem, I have seen a lot of digital cameras with strange connectors.
I just picked up a new panasonic lx100 camera as I wanted something small to carry on my bike and it came with a proprietary cable that isn't even compatible with my old panasonic camera. It does have built in wifi but it takes about 20 seconds to transfer each raw image to the PC. It is far easier and quicker to just pull out the memory card and copy the files off. |
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I connect my Canon DSLR straight to my laptop/PC. It's much less faffing than finding the card reader (cos it's never where I left it) then the cable (cos I borrowed it to plug into something else). My camera cable is kept in my camera bag so I know where it is and it's easy to plug in - the Canon software recognises it straight away and loads the transfer software.
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