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Old 30-07-2015, 10:45
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Can I go back to 8.1
I have just downloaded W 10 and plan to install this weekend.
If I don't like it can I go back to W8.1?
If so, how?
Thanks in advance.
Go to settings>updates & security>recovery you have the option in there to go back within a month of upgrading, be warned though, you will need to reinstall some apps and programs if you do go back.
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Old 30-07-2015, 10:51
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It is more like 10 being the 'last half dozen' versions.

The thing binding the slightly disparate bunch together is the 'look and feel' plus Universal apps.
And one might as well think of Universal apps as being a Android Art/Adobe Flash like add-on.

The whole point of 10 being Microsoft wants developers to only use their platform so making development singular is the main part of the plan.Get it right and they will likely control most of the advertising on Windows, an income likely now exceeding OS sale incomes.
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Old 30-07-2015, 10:56
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If 10 is running initially a bit slow its likely downloading that 500MB/1GB patch update.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/windows-10-...oblems-1513290
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Old 30-07-2015, 11:01
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I scheduled an update from 7 last night which had completed this morning. Don't know how long it took or what the boot up is like yet but I had a little play this morning and quite like it. Didn't notice any issues with my existing apps. So far so good!
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Old 30-07-2015, 11:02
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If 10 is running initially a bit slow its likely downloading that 500MB/1GB patch update.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/windows-10-...oblems-1513290
I think when you uses the media creation tool it does this during the second stage there. Having that happen during normal use sounds scary.

What I HAVE been getting are Windows Defender definition updates ALL DAY LONG. Not pushed down to me, but if I go and check, I've had six of them come down in the past day.
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Old 30-07-2015, 11:02
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I would use Macrium Reflect Free or TOSDO Easeus Free (I prefer MRF).

You can clone an exact copy to another disk in a usb caddy.

Better still: just make an image file which you can copy to another disk as well for extra backup security. You will have to create a recovery CD or USB stick with other package. Also, make a backup image of W10 once you have installed it so you donta have to donwload, install etc.
I have already made backups of windows 32 bit and 64 bit on DVD's.

I have upgraded one of my PC's but I want to tread very carefully with my main computer so want to make a backup.
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Old 30-07-2015, 11:04
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It may have already downloaded, check your C: root for a hidden folder called $Windows.~BT.
ok I am a bit thick how do I find C:root
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Old 30-07-2015, 11:07
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What's the best program to use to clone my SSD 'C' drive before doing the upgrade?

I have upgraded my other desktop and so far so good although there were loads of crashes after the upgrade, but it seems to have settled down now.
Word of warning--unless you've got a real nifty expensive SSD, I suspect it's not that big, right? Mine for example (a few years old) is a measley 115 GB or so. It makes my system fly, but I will say it also made me almost completely run out of space from the Windows 10 upgrade process (since all of Win 8 is kept plus the install files for 10).

If the same happens to you, then you really have to decide if you want to wipe the Win 8 rollback and Win 10 install files or not. I did, but not everyone will want to.

If you do, use the Disk Cleanup tool, with the System Files option (there's a button for that inside the app).
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Old 30-07-2015, 11:10
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That's actually good to know. Shame it isn't better known.

As for your 2GB install with 64-bit? I imagine at the very least that must be a Dual Core processor, right? I can't imagine how slow it would be with single core and 2GB.
I have installed 64bit with 4gb and a single core laptop and it much more responsive. It only costs £20 to buy an extra 2gb.
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Old 30-07-2015, 11:15
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64 bit Windows 10 now working on my computer
Screen resolution looks awful though - time to tweak!
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Old 30-07-2015, 11:32
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What's this new offline maps feature all about? (I'll assume it's a kind of replacement for autoroute/streets and trips)?
At first I thought that was a reference to really really old software - amazed to see the newest version came out only a couple of years ago!

Ah the good old monochrome route-mapping software, a map consisting of jagged lines and printing off a route on a dot matrix printer....

oldest reference I can find:
http://www.independent.co.uk/extras/...n-1438840.html
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Old 30-07-2015, 11:44
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Can I go back to 8.1
I have just downloaded W 10 and plan to install this weekend.
If I don't like it can I go back to W8.1?
If so, how?
Thanks in advance.
Yes.....PC settings......Update and Recovery.....Recovery......There is then a Return to W8.1 choice.
I've just done it and it worked fine.
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Old 30-07-2015, 11:46
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Thanks for that.
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Old 30-07-2015, 11:57
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ok I am a bit thick how do I find C:root
My Computer > Local Disk (C: )

That's you in the root of your C drive

The '$Windows.~BT' folder is hidden so make you've un-hidden them.

If it's there and around 5-6GB it means it's downloaded already. So you should hopefully get the prompt to install it.
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Old 30-07-2015, 12:05
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Regretting upgrading from 7 now. W10 boots fine, displaying the Windows logo, but when it goes to the login screen, the monitor pops up a message saying ''Cannot Display This Video Mode'. And I can't get the PC to boot into recovery/safe mode so I'm stuck, yay!
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Old 30-07-2015, 12:11
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And here's a second completely different suggestion (again based on older test versions of Win 10): http://winaero.com/blog/fix-store-be...in-windows-10/

And here's yet a THIRD place with more recent suggestions (only from the last 4 days, so based on a very recent build):

http://www.tenforums.com/software-ap...pp-broken.html

The main one seems to be that "wsreset" suggestion.

And a FOURTH set of suggestions here: http://forums.windowscentral.com/win...d-10240-a.html

Near the end of that page is the most useful looking.
Wish I could say these worked for me, alas I am still store-less
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Old 30-07-2015, 12:14
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Nope looks like I don't have it yet
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Old 30-07-2015, 12:21
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Is anyone else still waiting for the option to update? Currently running 8.1 but still no notification
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Old 30-07-2015, 12:34
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Not getting anything here still. But when I look at my update history in Windows Update it seems to have failed. Is this anything to be worried about?
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Old 30-07-2015, 12:35
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Is anyone else still waiting for the option to update? Currently running 8.1 but still no notification
The upgrade went through on my W8 laptop yesterday but I'm still waiting for the go-ahead on my W7 desktop.

Luckily it was always my plan to delay upgrading the desktop.
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Old 30-07-2015, 12:39
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https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

Will this tool work if you still haven't been prompted to upgrade? I've now had 7 failed attempts to upgrade since yesterday in Windows Update.

I've just run it and told it to upgrade my machine, currently download the files.
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Old 30-07-2015, 12:41
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https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...load/windows10

Will this tool work if you still haven't been prompted to upgrade? I've now had 7 failed attempts to upgrade since yesterday.

I've just run it and told it to upgrade my machine, currently download the files.
I hadn't had the prompt so used this and worked fine for me.
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Old 30-07-2015, 12:41
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I hadn't had the prompt so used this and worked fine for me.
Good to hear, I will let it continue to run then.
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Old 30-07-2015, 12:55
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Question - people are saying they are choosing between 64 bit and 32 bit versions?

Can you choose? I though 32 bit / 64 bit was fixed depending on previous install? Would it be practical / possible to install 64 bit Windows 10 over a 32 bit Windows 7 based around a 32 bit processor?
64 bit processor can run 32 or 64 bit Windows
32 bit processor can run 32 bit Windows only

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To get W10 Free, now or in the coming 12 months, you can only upgrade. eg Home to Home. 32 to 32. 64 to 64

Your machine(s) details are logged on MS servers as having done so and thereby qualifying you for that free edition W10 for the life of the machine.

If you have a 64 bit processor, 32 or 64 is allowed after the upgrade has completed, and you check that Activation was successful.
You can make 32 or 64 clean installs whenever you want (or Repair Installs/In-place Upgrades)


Only Clean Installs are possible, not Upgrades, to go from 32-64 or 64-32

License keys are no longer required after a successful upgrade to W10.
Leave the boxes blank, if asked, and Skip the page

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...f-aeab312caf74
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Old 30-07-2015, 12:57
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Is anyone else still waiting for the option to update? Currently running 8.1 but still no notification
Yep I havent got windows 10 yet & the gw10 app has disappeard.
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