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Old 01-08-2015, 22:19
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I started upgrade just over an hour ago on my laptop and its already at 92% done.

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Old 01-08-2015, 22:23
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It's now finished the install and is setting it all up. Will fully try it tomorrow. Will also ready the link on the BT site about what to do after upgrade.

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Old 02-08-2015, 00:00
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Chill, i'm sorry.

The only reason i'm not doing it that way is because it seems a bit complicated.
As above....I've done this twice now without any real problems.....MS are now saying that some machines could take weeks to be updated. If you really want it, go the 'official' route as indicated, or, just keep waiting, but, stop posting about the wait....
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Old 02-08-2015, 01:36
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I upgraded and everything seems to be okay apart from the display - I've got bars constantly flickering across the screen. I took a video to show what I mean: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzqV0_OKBwM

When I go into device manager, my display adapter is listed as AMD Radeon 6600M and 6700M Series. The driver software is up to date with the latest version. However, if I do an uninstall or I disable it, it seems to temporarily fix the issue of the flickering bars for a few hours at least. Any ideas on a longer term solution?
If this was the olden days and that was a CRT monitor attached to a desktop instead of an LCD on a notebook, I'd say it looked like a problem with the refresh rate set for the monitor.

But I don't think LCDs have those kind of refresh rate problems, so... I dunno. Not a clue.
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Old 02-08-2015, 01:56
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It looks complicated, but it's simple. If you're willing (not a problem if you aren't as caution can be the best option for some), here's a step-by-step guide:

1. click on 'Download the tool' (at http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d=ms_wol_win10)

2. click on 'Software download page'.

This will take you to the download page: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...load/windows10

3. scroll down to two purple boxes
4. click on either 'Download Tool Now (32-bit version)' or 'Download Tool Now (64-bit version)'

If you're not sure which system you have, then go Start > Control Panel > System and Security > System
You should see the system profile like this one here, which appears in W7, W8 and W8.1. Look at the yellow highlight bit to see which system you have: 32-bit or 64-bit.

5. once noted, go back to the download page and click on the box you want
6. once it's downloaded, double click on the downloaded file

7. a purple screen pops up and it says something like 'What do you want to do?'

On mine, the only option was something like 'Upgrade the PC now'. If there's more than one choice on yours, select 'Upgrade the PC now'.

[edited: I forgot about the User Agreement - I can't remember when this comes up, but when it does, click 'Accept']

8. click 'Next'

9. next screen offers three options: a) keep personal files and apps, b) keep personal files only, and c) nothing

I opted for a) as I wanted to keep everything as it was.

10. click 'Next'. It should tell you that it'll start upgrading now.

The installation can take up to two hours. Mine took an hour and fifteen minutes. My husband's took two hours. I think mine was rebooted three times during the installation.

11. once installed, it's ready to use. That's it.
Over all good advice. The three bits I'd add is:

a.) with an up to date virus and spyware/trojan scanner do a complete system scan. The last thing you want to do is walk into an upgrade with a virus or trojan running.

b.) After knowing you are virus/trojan free, if you have an external USB drive, back your system up. Macrium Reflect Free is one such solution, but many people with Utility Suites like Norton already have backup programs bought and paid for.

c.) Then (making sure you know how to later reinstall them--including websites to get the latest versions and license numbers) UNINSTALL your system level utilities. MS isn't really telling people to do this, but it's a bit foolish not to. They may even seem to migrate over correctly, but I've already seen subtle signs they don't always work as expected if they weren't installed under (and whenever possible updated for) Win 10. Don't let this terrify you into not doing an update. Just take the extra time to prepare. Examples: Custom packages for input devices like pen input, digitizers, Touch mice/pads (for example, I had this exact situation with the Logitech Touchpad, where the software migrated over just fine to 10 and never showed errors but just plain didn't WORK). Antivirus and Spyware and Custom Firewall software. Constantly running TuneUp and Utility packages like AVG Tuneup, Norton 360, etc. Probably even those fancy Printer/Scanner packages for some people--although I left mine intact and had luck with it working 100% migrated over that way. Oh, and all of the bloatware that companies like Dell and HP shove on to systems. The custom "Docks", the always running "Customer Service" software, etc. GET IT OFF if you can (via plain old Add/Remove Programs, or some custom software cleaning utility).

If you can't or won't clean all of that off before the upgrade, I'm not saying it won't work.I just think each thing you remove from the equation makes the upgrade more likely to work, and each thing you install fresh with Win 10 specific versions (while on Win 10) also will make that part of your upgrade work better. The websites for the manufacturers will tend to tell you when the old Win 7/8 stuff will work just fine untouched, so go check.

That said, you can always roll back. So just "going for it" might not be the end of the world either.
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Old 02-08-2015, 06:35
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As above....I've done this twice now without any real problems.....MS are now saying that some machines could take weeks to be updated. If you really want it, go the 'official' route as indicated, or, just keep waiting, but, stop posting about the wait....
Ok, I said I was sorry.
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Old 02-08-2015, 08:31
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I have noticed that the menu bar at the top off Microsoft Edge is missing and it was there in IE. Is there anyway to bring that back.
Also there is no print icon anywhere on Microsoft Edge that I can see so how do you print a webpage or go into printer setting like you could with IE.

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Old 02-08-2015, 08:53
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I have noticed that the menu bar at the top off Microsoft Edge is missing and it was there in IE. Is there anyway to bring that back.
Also there is no print icon anywhere on Microsoft Edge that I can see so how do you print a webpage or go into printer setting like you could with IE.

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I have three dots in the top right corner. That's all of the menu you get. One of the items is Print.
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Old 02-08-2015, 09:18
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I guess you might as well use Edge, in that I'm close to interpreting that new far reaching privacy agreement as allowing MS to own your Opera, Firefox and Chrome usage too.

It is fascinating that we have already agreed to let them install adware direct into the OS so it will be interesting how it all evolves. Microsoft won't know how the finances pan out so nothing is certain here.
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Old 02-08-2015, 09:18
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I have three dots in the top right corner. That's all of the menu you get. One of the items is Print.
I bet Control+P would work too.
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Old 02-08-2015, 09:23
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I have three dots in the top right corner. That's all of the menu you get. One of the items is Print.
Thanks I have now just found it.
Its going to take some getting used to.

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Old 02-08-2015, 09:25
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It is fascinating that we have already agreed to let them install adware direct into the OS so it will be interesting how it all evolves. Microsoft won't know how the finances pan out so nothing is certain here.
I've seen a few people mention this now, but have seen no mainstream coverage. Can you be more specific? The only thing I can think of that fits this is the Get Windows 10 App (aka KB3035583) we all mostly saw already.

To me, promoting their own product, from WITHIN their own product, particularly for a free upgrade to the SAME product, isn't really adware. Adware is plug/mention/real estate/eyeballage for another product.

Or do you mean something else?
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Old 02-08-2015, 10:00
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By installing you agree to compulsory updares. So 'anything goes'.

I would argue that the more money the Bin Cortana ad side of things makes the less intrusive W10 will stay.

If Microsoft Mail. Bing, Maps etc succeeed like Googles stuff then all will be well. If not, then the OS has to become adware in itself.
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Old 02-08-2015, 10:10
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Just found this and might be of use to some members who are unsure what to do:

80240020 IS NORMAL. 80240020 Does not mean your download is corrupt. In fact, the download was successful and the computer has not yet received permission to perform the install. Without permission, 80240020 will appear. 80240020 will occur daily until Microsoft sends the computer permission to install. Permission will come in days or even weeks. Permission is granted to large groups of computers in waves. This ensures that servers and support persons are not overwhelmed with millions of installs occurring at one time. This also enables certain computers to have their installation postponed until certain 3rd party drivers are available by those vendors. Eventually, all computers will get the permission flag set. This flag is in the registry. It can be set manually but it is not advised to do so.
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Old 02-08-2015, 10:18
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Been using 10 since the early betas and pretty much love it. However, i full wiped and updated to the full RTM yesterday and one thing is now driving me round the twist!

I use the Samsung Allshare program for streaming to my telly. Worked fine with 7, 8 and even the 10 betas. Now it just will not install. Started with the program was blocked from installing, so turned off smartscreen. Now it STILL wont install saying its been blocked for my safety. There is no install anyway button, just nothing! Can't understand why they are blocking Samsung software...

I'm an administrator on the computer, so surely it should be up to me whether i install something or not....
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Old 02-08-2015, 10:22
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I saw a discount on tinfoil hats.
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Old 02-08-2015, 10:40
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Been using 10 since the early betas and pretty much love it. However, i full wiped and updated to the full RTM yesterday and one thing is now driving me round the twist!

I use the Samsung Allshare program for streaming to my telly. Worked fine with 7, 8 and even the 10 betas. Now it just will not install. Started with the program was blocked from installing, so turned off smartscreen. Now it STILL wont install saying its been blocked for my safety. There is no install anyway button, just nothing! Can't understand why they are blocking Samsung software...

I'm an administrator on the computer, so surely it should be up to me whether i install something or not....
Do you have any other virus package installed? If not you might try turning of Defender?
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Old 02-08-2015, 10:53
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Do you have any other virus package installed? If not you might try turning of Defender?
Tried everything.

Just managed to sort it though. I had to unsign the Samsung .exe file! Installed and works fine now.
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Old 02-08-2015, 12:54
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So who here likes the start menu feature?
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Old 02-08-2015, 13:56
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Tried everything.

Just managed to sort it though. I had to unsign the Samsung .exe file! Installed and works fine now.
Unsign? Perhaps the certificate was old or it could not check the chain towards the root certificate.
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Old 02-08-2015, 14:09
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Is it just me that is finding the new browser very slow and clunky?
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Old 02-08-2015, 14:26
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Unsign? Perhaps the certificate was old or it could not check the chain towards the root certificate.
No idea, but it was fine in the betas.
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Old 02-08-2015, 14:45
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Hhmmmm .. i think i want 10 .. i'm not sure
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Old 02-08-2015, 14:52
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No idea, but it was fine in the betas.
The certificate might have become invalid in the meantime, there were problems with SSL, some certificates even got revoked.
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Old 02-08-2015, 15:07
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Arrgh. "critical error" and it logs me out.
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