Since I went directly from W7 to W10, I never realised the little Genuine sticker/'hologram' was discontinued.

I liked that. I am bereft. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=co...ih=532#imgrc=_

I might upgrade to Windows 10 tomorrow. If I think it's unstable, I'll just put Windows 8.1 back on. I've been getting nagging messages about upgrading to Windows 10 after every time I've switched the computer on. It's getting on my nerves.

Sure it only installs if the user is a admin?

"upgrading" from W8.1 to W10 managed to brick my laptop yesterday, kept freezing after 3-5 mins. Still I hated W8 and throwing it out of my 2nd floor window (I kid you not) was what I have been wanting to do for 2 years. W8 carp, W10 carper.

Nope, windows 10 was on a second hard drive, not the main drive.

I hidden the updates and while I did get a notice this morning come up, i have had nothing since.
At least now i can go into updates and get no notice on there to update.

Maybe you're just not good with change. Most serious reviewers think W10 is really rather good. Up to now I would agree with that point of view.

Maybe, or maybe the change is for the worse lol

OK I had the last straw tonight.
Although I registered for the upgrade, I wanted to do it in my own time. But no, it was done straight away.

Since the upgrade, any restart takes 5 minutes while it does a pre boot scan. W7 loaded in 1 minute, no trouble.

Then, Paypal wouldnt accept my debit card yesterday, details were ok, it just kept telling me the card details were incorrectly entered, so somehow the protocols were being mishandled, or misinterpreted. Abandoned that.

Took some photos today, but every time I wanted to open a viewer to look at them, I was getting a popup asking me if I wanted to do it with a brand new Microsoft app, which of course would need paying for, or the same old boring Windows Photo Viewer which of course I had paid for when I bought Windows 7 Ultimate for £250.

This afternoon I wanted to access my internet banking site, normally whenever I do this I will run a Malwarebytes scan just to be on the safe side.
Clicked on the icon, up came the UAC which I approved, only to be told that 'this application could not start'. In other words, I was running without protection, but hadnt been notified. My Malwarebytes is the pro verson with active shields, but obviously if it couldnt start, the shields would be useless.

What a pile of poo. Rolled back to W7. Everything works properly now.

It's interesting to read how emotional some people are getting over this. Problems are soluble, but you need to remain objective to succeed. If some part of Windows 10 irks you then work the problem, or ask for help. Your computer doesn't care one iota what your previous experiences were, or whether you paid a lot of money for it. Focussing on that sort of thing only distracts your attention from the task at hand. Take a deep breath or go and make a cup of tea if you begin to feel violent tendencies towards your laptop. They're quite complicated machines but then so is a car, and when they break down you know damned well that Basil Fawlty-ing it isn't going to help. Coming here to vent, telling everyone how angry you are, how sh*t you think Windows 10 is and how in the end you just gave up just makes you look silly.

LOL - brilliant!

Hang on a minute. Windows 10 does not just install itself without you specifically agreeing to it.

No it doesnt. But what it does do, if you defer the installation, is then tell you that there is an 'important update' to Windows 7. So like a fool, I allowed it, and without further prompting the Windows 10 upgrade started. Sneaky.

And as an addition, this morning in Windows 7 I purchased the same item on Ebay that Paypal had rejected my card on, using Windows 10. The purchase went through without a hitch, and Malwarebytes is now running normally.

Sure. Then tell me, how do you change the fonts on the title bar of Windows Explorer in Windows 10. Because you cant. Nor can you change the fonts on Icons, Pallette Titles, Menus, or create your own themes with their own fonts. All of which you have been able to do since the days of Windows 98. I always thought that the idea of an 'upgrade' was to make things more versatile, to add functions, not to remove them.

I am familiar with the notion that in new versions of operating systems, the methods of doing things might well change, but dont see how anything can possibly be called an 'upgrade' by removing previously accepted functionality.

This guys claims he is dual booting between Windows 10 (upgraded from W7 and therefore activated) and......WIndows 7.

http://www.tenforums.com/windows-upd...e-your-pc.html

Interesting!

Changing fonts on title bars isn't something I would call a functionality. But that's a typical Microsoft, bouncing from one extreme to another. In Vista and W7 they had you testing your graphic card so they knew how much ornamenting they could unleash on the OS. If there ever was an ultimate case of style over substance this must be it. Funnily enough that's one thing people miss most. I couldn't care less, if it does not look like Windows 2000 and it has a certain style to it, it's good enough for me.

Yes it is. But I wonder how long it will be before the screen telling him 'this is not a genuine copy of Windows' appears on his version of Windows 7.

The problem I have with it isnt so much aesthetic, its also functional. I run Windows on a number of different screens, from a netbook with a 10" screen and low graphics capability, to this PC which has a 27" screen and is capable of pretty good graphics rendering. The problem I come up against is that I am getting a little short sighted now, and not only do I like to to be able to see clearly what is happening, I also find it far easier to read text on a graphic in one font than another.

Sure you can change text sizes, Icon sizes and so on, but that often creates problems with offscreen elements and things running into areas that I like to work with. Its easier to change font, title bar width and so on, than it is to work with accessibility functions.

And I would call it functionality. Its much harder just to use a computer if you cant see what you are doing. Its part of the basic functions of the machine.

7 will get deactivated after 30 days though Microsft would do best postponing that horror until after a full 12 months.

I'd love the years 2 and 3 Microsoft blueprints to leak. They will be quite startling one way or another.

If you remove KB3035583 update, that'll get rid of the nags.

I was going to upgrade today, but having read about it being a disaster for a lot of people I will give it a miss.
Apparently people have tried to roll back to their old window but it has failed. Nightmare!

I am very happy with windows 7.

I take the view that Microsoft can do whatever they want within reason. But I am not sure how or why they would be disadvantaged if they were to choose to allow a 7/10 or 8.1/10 dual booter to continue happily for the next 8 years? (There is clearly a clever motivation that I have not fully understood.)

Sometimes carrots work better than sticks! If they were to say to me "Restore your old 7 image as often as you want. It will work fine. But you won't want to.....because you are going to Love 10"..........that carrot would work for me.

Windows Update runs in an administrator context - it has to as otherwise non-admins couldn't do Windows Updates. However, hopefully, it doesn't actually try to install the thing (W10), but it's been reported as downloading to business machines.

I agree about carrots and sticks, but lets face it, Windows 10 is not really going to be free. As was already demonstrated clearly to me when trying to view the pictures, Microsoft are going to do their very best to sell apps within this operating system. The moment you try to do something, there will be a nag telling you 'we have an app for that'. Thats the impression I got, anyway, and I only used Windows 10 for 3 days, but had at least 5 or 6 nags to purchase apps from the store over that time.

So its in Microsoft's interest to get as many people using Windows 10 as they can, in as short a time as possible. Thats the reason for the 1 year timeout.

What apps were you offered to purchase and in what context? The only app that does this to me is MS Solitaire Collection, it was so since W8.0 and it is easily ignored.