Not MS's fault that you use old software really. That's your personal choice and as you indicated there are alternatives.
As the majority of people, in all Windows variants, use another browser apart from the built in one, Edge is hardly a problem.
If you were building an OS we'd all be still waiting to join the 21st century.....

When you pay over £300 for a bit of software you want it to last. What alternatives do I have?
Premier pro is now subscription and I do not really like it anyway
Avid is way over priced for what it offers and even the studio version is around the £200 mark

That is your lot really, you got some cheap ones, which are fine for some people.

I could go Mac and get Final cut, which is fantastic, but then there is the price of getting a mac as well as the software.

Kden live is available on Linux, which is great for a free bit of software, but as much as people think, it does not match Vegas.

A lot of people will use the default and Edge makes itself default.


I would make it modular, use plug ins like they do with browsers, so people have a choice what they use and it would not spy on people or have a back door for the spy services to link into.

I would have it support older hardware, not too old, I would also tell people what the updates do and give people more choice in how they update.

My Os would just be that a OS.

I have seen the wifi drop out just a couple of times on W10. I have also seen several people mention this on different websites. And the common theme each time was Broadcom driver. You may have the latest driver delivered by Windows update but it may not be the version of the latest driver tweaked by the manufacturer of your Laptop. Or...you may have to wait a little longer for the manufacturer to put their version of the W10 driver in the support page for your exact model.
If it is not a Broadcom driver....I have no idea.

Now....... for your first problem, Microsoft suggest that an incompatible driver is causing that particular message.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ea46a96?auth=1
So.....Is it possible that your first problem is the same problem as your second problem?

Have you tried Lightworks? A very good system with a long track record and works on Windows, Mac and Linux. £250 for an outright licence or £100 per year subscription:

https://www.lwks.com/index.php?optio...hop&Itemid=205

It's a fully professional NLE that rivals Final Cut.

...I'll have to check the driver name tonight when I'm back at home but pretty sure it wasn't Broadcom!

Just out of interest what is your Laptop?

Its one of these (but can't remember if its Hp, Dell, etc?!) : Stone Group laptop with Intel Pentium, CPU B950 @2.10GHz, RAM 4.00GB 3.40 GB

OK. I don't know that name!
Have a look at the wifi driver again anyway even if it is not Broadcom. (I think my Broadcom driver had a different name anyway. Maybe a number).
When you find out who actually made your Laptop see if you can find your model (?) and see if they have put a W10 driver on the support page (yet). If not you could consider forcing W10 to accept the Windows 8.1 driver just as a stopgap until they post a W10 driver.

That is exactly what I did with a video card driver to give Lenovo a bit more time to produce a Lenovo version of the W10 video driver. Stopping Windows update from replacing this temporary 8.1 driver with the incompatable W10 driver that Microsoft wanted to give me involved jumping through a few hoops. But it can be done.

...thanks - will do. Will check the details tonight!

I have an old Stone Group MR055 Vista Core2Duo machine. I think they were used in Schools and Colleges?

I found the driver download page eventually, but I've never been able to found out who the original manufacturer is or any compatible mainstream models. I looked quite extensively too.

Mine is not bad as a spare laptop and is quite happily running W10.

Anands website does a full review
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9543/t...dows-10-review

However it is only the comments that tackle the privacy and user control pertinence.

Microsoft are not going behind anyone's back and the tech press and many on here have told you how to change any options and MS will not be selling your data to a criminal, come on!
Microsoft have been more open than many about their privacy options and how to control it, to me that is an open and welcome change
Social networking and 'privacy' recommendations are about 75% now how I get new and repeat and addon business compared to the old fashioned advertising and websites
I am sure many of us really do not really like the idea deep down, but its the 21st century way and we are engaging with it as if you do not you miss out
Social networking and recommendation 'targeting' for my and many businesses is the way now and few would survive today without it and it is well controlled
I cannot just easily look at any individual data, its very encrypted and to be honest I am trying to earn money for my business and my employees and their families and provide a great service for my clients, than 'spying' as you put it

What does confuse me though in Windows 10 is onedrive, it seems to work oddly, not like dropbox as a shared drive, onderive seems to keep adding and removing folders on windows 10 and reporting in notifications, not sure what is going on, it works so different to dropbox, struggling to understand what it is trying to do, does seem odd

Acutually, even when on total privacy lockdown, information is still being used.

Modern methods of course suit us and our businesses and lives. But sometimes they don't.

We are being deprived of control and it is important, not just paranoid knee-jerk.

Yes, the tech press have almost totally faied to tackle that loss of user control rights. Anand joined the others there!

Another article, see comments http://www.techradar.com/news/softwa...ht-now-1301257

Thanks Stig. I have done it and will see in the morning what happens.

Just a passing comment. If you have upgraded from, say, Win 7 to Win 10, and you check the regular updates you may find repeated, and supposedly successful, attempts to install Bing Bar 7.0


If you have Bing bar then my sympathies, and if you're not bothered by regular, daily, even twice daily, "updates" for KB2626807, fine.

However, if such things annoy you there is a simple solution.

Just ask if you're interested.

As I mentioned, I ran this earlier. I have done several restarts since then and following each one there has been a failed W10 upgrade showing in my Updates History. So, nothing has changed.

i have had a look at lightworks, well the free version, it is available for Windows, linux and I think Apple. It is pretty good, but i am not sure if I like the timeline,. There is no thumbnails on the time line, which makes it a bit strange to work with.

The free version is a bit limited but it gives a idea how it works. The problem is it is more money again, something I do not have at the moment.

Thanks for that anyway.,

Have you tried hiding the update? The script I posted removes the GWX icon nag.

As RobinOfLoxley typed, MS still able to access some data even if you turn of all the privacy options.

Ah, so because it is the 21st century, we should put up with it and because it keeps your business going we should put up with it.

I still say it should be a opt in system, these tick boxes if you do not want us to contact you, should be tick if you do not mind us contacting you or giving your data to any Tom, Dick or Harry.

You have no way of knowing what is included in that data or where it goes, you said yourself YOU can not see any individual data, it don't someone else can't.

Getting too much now with info about us all; over the place and we have little control over it.

Pass, I never really used one drive myself, Drop box does what I want for the minimal amount of content I have on it.
Sorry, I can't help you there.

As I don't know how to hide the update (I assume this would stop it trying, not just hide the fact that it had), I think I had best let it drop and just ignore the history entries.

Ok, the make of the laptop is actually called Stone. Its not a Dell or HP but Stone.

I've looked in my Device Manager and the wifi network card is an Intel Centrino Wireless N2230. Also, when I clicked Properties of this whilst in Device Manage and then clicked on the Power Management tab, I noticed that the option to "Allow Computer to turn off this device to save power" was ticked Could the laptop be turning off the wifi card to save power and thus giving me the "Limited Connectivity" error message when the wifi drops out??

In addition, I have checked on the Stone website but there are currently no Windows 10 driver downloads whatsoever so thats not an option either.

Another weird thing : On the Stone website, it asked me to input the Serial number, which I read from the sticker on the bottom of the laptop, however, the website wouldn't acknowledge the number? I then opened a Command Prompt as an Admin and checked the Serial number there (by typing wmic bios get serialnumber), and a TOTALLY different number came up - which WAS recognized on the Stone website?!?! Now I'm even MORE confused!!!

I now in two minds whether to just roll back to Windows 7!! Incidenty, I have been typing this from the Stone laptop and the wifi hasn't dropped yet (since I uniticked the "save power" option) but that could just be coincidence......

I installed Windows 10 on the 1st August. If MS only give you 1 month to roll back, that means I have the end of today to decide?!?!

Thoughts....

If you thought the data slurping too much, Microsoft have played fair and teleported the slurping to 7 and 8 too.
http://forums.theregister.co.uk/foru...8_via_patches/

I recall there was an 'optional' update prior to this expansion so maybe, like me you never opt in to things. Maybe that stops most of these happening.

I did not exactly say that, but still

Oh well, was just demonstrating where I feel it can do some good and still think microsoft have shown to be more open with their privacy options than many, whether they do not declare all or not, but they may have reasons for that and i care not
I will not comment any further as I've given my own thoughts that will not change and my example and do not want to digress the thread too much
I myself will go to sleep tonight thinking about the great day I have planned tomorrow for my employees and clients and not about a privacy tick box

Just had another notification that i have a music folder on onedrive, the windows 10 onedrive icon and folder shows a red x on the folder and looking on my onedrive on iPad and android, the music folder is there and empty (its never contained any files), its very odd how it works, think i will just stick with dropbox