They do download some installer software, on some computers, but certainly not all.


You can check if you have it by looking for the directory $Windows.~BT


No worse than so much of the Adobe junk and so on, let alone the usual crapware that comes with a new computer.

That format has been around since Office 2007. More secure than the very vulnerable .doc format.

I do not have auto updates on and yet it downloaded on mine. Anyway, auto updates are defualt and many people will not change them because they do not know how and or do not know anything about updates.



But Adobe is not 6GB of data.

Added W10 to the netbook that is my diary, I would say 3 weeks ago or so. Up until now no problems, but overnight MS must have done an update, as I always leave my diary program open on the pc and it was closed in the morning.

Im a bit of an audiophile and have Equalizer APO installed which runs all day in the van so I can listen to music while I work. Equaliser APO has the ability to remember all the settings you use for various outputs and you can use names for them to suit the equipment its connected to. Over the past 3 weeks Ive been making gradual incremental changes to the default setting, getting it to sound better each time.

After the update this morning, the default settings were wiped completely and set back to flat. I now have to begin again.
So for anyone who has some setting set up on your PC that you want to keep, back it up. You cant trust that Microsoft will leave your settings intact. I am now worried that the diary file could be lost, I do have a backup for this, but its done in the evening, so the day's next future appointments could be lost without ever knowing that it had happened.

Suggest you install Macrium Reflect Free and make regular image backups (say weekly), and incremental backups daily (can schedule them).

Also, I think the automatic File history backup would be useful here.

Schedule MS updates to be done after you backups.

Also with Macrium Reflect, you can browse the backup and select individual files, which you can copy over. Saves having to do a full image restore when all you want to do is retrieve a few files.

Try doing all this with the crappy windows image backup facility!

Has anyone else set photos to open with Windows Photo Viewer rather than the Windows 10 crap app only to have it revert back to the crap app with no JPG/JPEG file association options available for WPV?

Does anyone know that the location of the WPV on the HDD so I can attempt to force it to open them?

My png files open with WPV, but other formats with Firefox. Probably me who set that.

I have Windows Photo Viewer folders in C:\Program Files and C:\Program Files (x86) but they are just dll files in there

The original Registry mod Zip is here - http://www.howtogeek.com/225844/how-...on-windows-10/

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I find Everything Search a nifty little util when looking for these sorts of things. Windows search is just rubbish.

Indeed but that's where File History would come into play.

Indeed, in OPs case, file history, and regular full image backups might be a good idea.

Two points.


The Installer software appears to be downloaded only after clicking on the invitation to "Get Windows 10".

Size-wise it is actually under 4Gb, not the "more than" 6Gb that is claimed in some media.

Thanks for this Robin.

I never realised that upgrading to Windows 10 using the prompt kept Windows Photo Viewer enabled but a fresh install disabled it. Explains why I could use it prior to doing a fresh install.

Looks like they hidden it on a fresh install for some weird reason:

http://www.howtogeek.com/225844/how-...on-windows-10/

What is wrong with the Photo app then?

It's a Store app and like all Store Apps designed for 5 year olds.

Young Insider tests the latest Windows Update Touch Driver

"You have to keep those morons at Redmond on their toes", he said, "They'll push any old crap out to the punters"

One of my Windows 8.1 PCs is absolutely refusing to upgrade.
I've tried the Media Creation Tool method and the Reserve app method numerous times, and it always stops with errors.

The Media Creation tool will download the upgrade, but when it tries to install it stops and shows the "Something happened screen....".
If I use the 'Get Windows 10' app, which downloads through Windows Update, then the update fails with error code 800703ED.
Googling suggests it might have something to do with the way the hard drive is partitioned, and that I dual boot with Linuxes chosen by the linux grub?

Strangely my other Windows 8.1 PC upgraded with no problems, and it is partitioned and dual boots in a similar way.
The only difference I can think of is that the successful PC has a legacy BIOS, and the one that's refusing has a newer style UEFI BIOS (although it's partitioned the old style BIOS way).

I know Windows 10 will work on this PC (i3 CPU 8GB RAM), as I was trying out the Preview on it in Virtualbox, so I guess if I were willing to repartition it, and possibly clean install 8.1, then upgrade from there, it should work.
But not sure I'm willing to go to that effort.....yet.

The general advice for dual booting is to install windows first and Linux second.

http://superuser.com/questions/26526...-windows-first

Well worth a read on where Chris Capossela, the Chief Marketing Officer at Microsoft sees Windows 10 today and its future, in an interview last week, around devices, edge, bing and cortana. He also talks around the Azure business side;

https://view.officeapps.live.com/op/...Capossela.docx

Use Media Creation Tool ("Create installation media for another PC" option) to download the ISO file instead of just selecting the Upgrade Now option

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Right-click .iso to Mount
or
Right-click .iso to burn to DVD.
or
Use Rufus to put .iso on USB Flash.
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You don't boot the DVD or Flash for first Upgrade. Run the setup.exe instead



Clean Install can be done at a future time/date by booting the media, after successful Activation has been confirmed, if desired.

I'd have liked the marketing defence for installgate. This raises the same points already mentioned, and some.
http://m.theinquirer.net/inquirer/an...he-world-rages
"Then there's the sneakiness. Microsoft offers an opt-in scheme to Windows 10. Remember all that stuff about reserving your copy? If you didn't reserve a copy and it juust goes ahead and downloads it anyway, it's going directly against your wishes. And let's remember, it's going into a hidden folder that you actually have to change settings to be able to see."

Yes, it is fair to say that not clicking the 'Reserve your free Windows 10' button is as good a NO to downloading 10 as MS would ever need.

That was how I first attempted to upgrade, as I'd already made installation media on the first PC I successfully upgraded, and I thought it would save downloading it again (both PCs were on 8.1 Pro 64bit).

It gets a certain way then gives the error message "Something Happened. We were unable to determine if your PC would support Windows 10. Please run the setup again" or WTTE.
The only option is then to close. Tried it numerous times with the same result.

Then I installed the Media Creation Tool on that PC and tried the "Upgrade this PC" option. It downloads the Windows 10 files fine, but then when it tries to install it gives the same error message as before.
Annoyingly if I run it again it re-downloads all the files, even though they are already on the computer, so I only tried that twice.

The next thing I tried was to add a registry key "AllowOSUpgrade", which forces Windows Update to do the upgrade. That's when I got the error code 800703ED.
I also tried reserving through the 'Get Windows 10' popup, but that just tells me it's downloading in the background, which it isn't because it's relying on Windows Update to do it, and that has failed numerous times.

To answer oilman, Windows was installed first and is on the first partition. The Linuxes were installed later.
However I notice in Disk management that the Windows partition is not the 'active' partition. The active partition is the Linux partition that is controlling grub.
It may be that if I make the Windows partition the active one, than that might solve the issue?

Three things that no one really uses at the moment, As for Edge well it is unfinished with no add ons.

I think you might be right, because this thread on that error code you mentioned says to have the windows partition as active - http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/i...84a17c1?auth=1