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I'd suggest thoroughly testing Win 10 once it's been installed to see if there are any significant bugs/errors. If yes, then reversion to Win 8.1 plus the addition of Start8 etc. should provide a familiar and stable interface and if no then by all means hand over the laptop to your son (and I wish him well with his studies).
By the way, you're absolutely right to provide an external hard drive back up and your son ought to develop the habit of regular back ups in case something goes wrong. Indeed, students are penalised for late work assignment submissions so the use of a back up hard drive and the use of a calendar reminder system for deadlines could turn out to be quite useful. PS This study guide might or might not be of interest: http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_...+use+your+head Its a Lenovo so Malwarebytes found 80 PUPS including Superfish. I have got rid of most of the unwanted programs and will research the rest tomorrow. Its just finished doing windows updates so now I'm going to backup the first image to the hard drive (external). |
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There is two clicks of the mouse to install Windows 10 on Windows 8.1
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I know many of you aspiring programmers/developers on here who want more apps on windows 10. Why not write your own. Here is a great beginners guide to doing just that; Quote:
... walks you through how to create Windows 10 apps on the Universal Windows Platform (UWP) – meaning you'll gain access to all the Windows 10 screens: PCs, phones, tablets, and even on a Raspberry Pi, HoloLens, and Xbox. ...challenge you with exercises, help you build a cheat sheet for future reference, and explain the techniques and concepts being used along the way in a simple, friendly manner. https://channel9.msdn.com/Series/Win...lute-beginners
... assumes is that participants understand the basic language fundamentals of C#; if you don't have this covered, you should take a look at the C# Fundamental series first |
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I learned Z80 and 6502 Machine Code and, when I started work, did other bits and pieces, useful for interest or internal for the company.
I never came up with the Big Idea and I have never described myself as a Programmer. I do think that being in Software Development and Programming is a great choice for youngsters. Whether that is true in 30 years, we will have to wait and see. |
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I think MS is making it too easy for potential programmers and hides things one should be aware of to create a good programme that works efficiently. They say you don't have to care about memory management, garbage collection will take care of that. Not if you end up with objects rooted by some static reference, for example. Not mentioning that understanding new and delete separated the real programmers from impostors
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But if it is a flexible and high level language you seldom need to care, at least until long down the road.
Easy starts have to be commended, if that is how it is. |
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But the problems are never really gone, they just transform into something else. Instead of deallocation problems you get rooting, instead of DLL hell you get an assembly one. Managed code gives you an illusion that you are better than you are. Unmanaged code would teach you its own lesson quickly
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I did a search but nothing came up.......
I've tried upgrading to Win 10 when it booted up it came up with c1900101-20017 error. It then booted back to Win 7 I'd be grateful if anyone could tell me what to do - it needs to be in plain English and baby steps. I used to be fine with computers but I now take morphine due to extreme pain and the old noggin is a wee bit cloudy these days
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Much true.
I found it very easy to predict near total failure of some of those billion dollar IT projects. It has to have nothing to do with choice of language or hardware, but the fact that so so few working on it understood the existing government systems. I bet those taking the money knew full well it was doom laden. Like what Robin said about 'big idea', beginners need some big idea' to get the urge to start no matter how small in reality that idea is. Funnily enough, I get the impression that with apps, many of the big money ideas start tiny or are big scale tiny. (the likes of angry birds,snapchat) |
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I think MS is making it too easy for potential programmers and hides things one should be aware of to create a good programme that works efficiently.
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They say you don't have to care about memory management, garbage collection will take care of that. Not if you end up with objects rooted by some static reference, for example.
GC is not suitable for every type of application. But it's good enough for most line of business applications. Quote:
Not mentioning that understanding new and delete separated the real programmers from impostors Why do you think pretty much every new language has some sort of automatic memory management scheme, whether garbage collection or some other scheme, such as reference counting? It's not a question of not understanding new and delete. It's the fact that doing it manually is error-prone. Making errors in this area leads to memory corruption, buffer overruns, use-after-free.. Almost every security bulletin for web browsers and other web-related applications contain such errors. And the devs at the likes of Microsoft and Google who write such code I guess are way better than you and I!
And in modern C++ the gurus consider it poor form to use raw new and delete. The recommendation is to program to abstractions. E.g., see Stroustrup's writings of the past few years. |
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As soon as you heavily get into concepts, beginners shy away.
I'd exaggeratingly liken it to someone new to the game of football listening to Phil Nevilles infamous football punditry debut, before even kicking a ball. Go is well admired as something both modern and easy to dive into. |
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I did a search but nothing came up.......
I've tried upgrading to Win 10 when it booted up it came up with c1900101-20017 error. It then booted back to Win 7 I'd be grateful if anyone could tell me what to do - it needs to be in plain English and baby steps. I used to be fine with computers but I now take morphine due to extreme pain and the old noggin is a wee bit cloudy these days ![]() http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...load/windows10 But before you start, do you know your windows 7 install key, and do you have windows 7 recovery/install disk in case something goes wrong? If not, you can make a full system image backup (good to do anyway) using this guide. http://www.howtogeek.com/223139/how-...to-windows-10/ |
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I started on Pascal and C and then came this fancy C++ thing, but now I am deep in C#. I think having to go and succeed in the low level stuff kept you on your toes and some people failed because they could not grasp it. When smart pointers came, it took a lot of pressure off, but it's always better if you actually know what it is doing and how. I think C# took away this mental exercise and made a programmer from people who would not have a chance before. BTW I checked what Stroustrup is doing with C++ and my knowledge of C++ does not seem to scratch the surface of the mad things he is doing now. I can't help it, but he and his followers feel like a sect now, they seem sidelined and obsolete, I am probably wrong. But there are lots of new things one spends more time learning than using them.
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windows 10 compression.
Interesting article that describes how Windows 10 is made much smaller.
http://blogs.technet.com/b/mniehaus/...footprint.aspx |
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I still haven't been prompted to download W10 yet on this laptop despite reserving it when the 'Reserve W10' pop up first appeared
Must be a couple of months since I downloaded it on my other laptop Not that bothered but I wonder if lots of people still haven't had it sent to their computers............... |
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I still haven't been prompted to download W10 yet on this laptop despite reserving it when the 'Reserve W10' pop up first appeared
Must be a couple of months since I downloaded it on my other laptop Not that bothered but I wonder if lots of people still haven't had it sent to their computers............... You can always use the Media Creation Tool. |
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Have you checked Windows Update to see what updates have attempted to be installed. You might find an update is continually failing.
You can always use the Media Creation Tool. |
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Interesting article that describes how Windows 10 is made much smaller.
http://blogs.technet.com/b/mniehaus/...footprint.aspx http://betanews.com/2015/08/05/micro...or-windows-10/ That update was 325MB so size is still a relative thing, Windows being mighty big. |
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Yes, quite a few things got removed, for the better too.
http://betanews.com/2015/08/05/micro...or-windows-10/ That update was 325MB so size is still a relative thing, Windows being mighty big. |
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hyperstarsponge I just wanted to say, Welcome Back! Forum Member
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I just wanted to say, Welcome Back!
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Daft question. I had to purchase a key from ebay (windows 10 pro) it does work. Now my comp going haywrie and I'm planning to clean install when I get back. Is it OK to use the same key again? It will be on same system I activated key on. I had to clean install a few days ago before I bought the new key and it wouldn't activate
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Daft question. I had to purchase a key from ebay (windows 10 pro) it does work. Now my comp going haywrie and I'm planning to clean install when I get back. Is it OK to use the same key again? It will be on same system I activated key on. I had to clean install a few days ago before I bought the new key and it wouldn't activate
What didn't activate? I can't work out what you are saying. Reinstalling Windows 10 using the same key shouldn't be a problem, assuming the key is legit. |
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As a general tip; don't buy keys from eBay as they often come from dubious sources.
What didn't activate? I can't work out what you are saying. Reinstalling Windows 10 using the same key shouldn't be a problem, assuming the key is legit. |
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