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Lidtop2013
08-10-2015
Originally Posted by oilman:
“If you have an external hard drive - follow this guide to create a system image backup.

http://www.howtogeek.com/223139/how-...to-windows-10/

You can revert to Windows 7 from windows 10 within 30 days using the rollback mechanism, but it has been known to fail.

You can reinstall 7 in the usual way, but you would have to install XP and upgrade to 7 again. Using a system image avoids this hassle.”

Brilliant, thanks for the info mate
zz9
08-10-2015
Originally Posted by TheBigM:
“You have to remember the Windows ecosystem still includes many OEMs who will make great products at prices that ordinary people are willing to pay. The Surface brand partly sets a high bar, it takes some mindshare away from Apple and helps make Microsoft's brand cool again. That's partly the reason for such high prices on the Surface brand - they need to give breathing room to their OEM partners. And partly, these are still niche devices so you want to have high margins to pay back the R&D and marketing costs of these things.

The Surface Pro 4 with specs I would want will cos £1,100 but Dell will make something decent for £800 and I'll buy that but I'll be bought into the concept from the Surface.

On the phone market - Windows phones have sold at the high end to Windows enthusiasts and at the low end to people who liked Nokia. They have tried plenty of midrange devices but these always sell the worst of all. They are taking the right approach, making phones for the people who will buy them - fans, businesses and developers who need a device with a bit of oomph. They are keeping the 640 and 550 at the low end and ignoring the part of the market where they have no traction and where Chinese androids can easily out-compete and out-price them.”

I agree. Unlike Apple MS is mainly a software company with a hardware arm on the side. They don't want to piss off all their PC and laptop builders that buy Windows from them, so the Surface line is a halo product to get publicity and allow manufacturers to undercut them.I have a Linx 10 tablet that runs full Windows 8.1 and only cost £150, that's £250 less than the Surface 3 which is almost identical.

But I want that Surface Book. It looks fantastic. A proper laptop that you can take the screen to bed or sit on the sofa and leave the keyboard on the table.
alanwarwic
09-10-2015
http://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1327960
There is little need to feel sympathy for Microsoft, it has to be the manufacturers nearer crisis.

And if you believe some of that survey it might be worse for tablet manufacturers.
Javier_deVivre
11-10-2015
After Windows 10 BSOD'ed on me for the second time since release, they can shove it up their ar§e!
Stig
11-10-2015
Originally Posted by Javier_deVivre:
“After Windows 10 BSOD'ed on me for the second time since release, they can shove it up their ar§e!”

Yeah, so you said in the other thread.

It's going to be a driver issue, so the sensible solution would be to find out which driver is causing the problem and fix it.
stvn758
11-10-2015
When I try and drag my media player across onto my TV it bounces back onto my desktop causing it to go into multi-view - can't even remember what they call it, all apps windowed and you click on one then it goes full screen.

This a glitch or do I have something enabled. At the moment I can get half the player on the second screen and then drag it fully over. To further add to the mystery it doesn't happen 100% of the time, on a few occasions it just drags smoothly as before on Win 7.

Stig
11-10-2015
Originally Posted by stvn758:
“When I try and drag my media player across onto my TV it bounces back onto my desktop causing it to go into multi-view - can't even remember what they call it, all apps windowed and you click on one then it goes full screen.

This a glitch or do I have something enabled. At the moment I can get half the player on the second screen and then drag it fully over. To further add to the mystery it doesn't happen 100% of the time, on a few occasions it just drags smoothly as before on Win 7.

”

What do you mean 'drag my media player across onto my TV'? If you take that literally it makes no sense.

Are you running 2 displays, one on your PC screen and another on the TV?
call100
11-10-2015
Originally Posted by Javier_deVivre:
“After Windows 10 BSOD'ed on me for the second time since release, they can shove it up their ar§e!”

I'm sure MS are really worried now.................As that's not a universal problem with W10 it would make more sense to look to your machine and drivers as Stig suggests.
Thorney
11-10-2015
Originally Posted by Javier_deVivre:
“After Windows 10 BSOD'ed on me for the second time since release, they can shove it up their ar§e!”

Funny how intolerant we are these days, back in the days of Windows 95/98 blue screens were almost a weekly occurence but we just laughed/sighed/sweared and carried on.
oilman
11-10-2015
Originally Posted by Javier_deVivre:
“After Windows 10 BSOD'ed on me for the second time since release, they can shove it up their ar§e!”

Your motto must be 'If at first you don't succeed, give up'.

We could possibly help if you were gracious enough to ask nicely.
CappySpectrum
11-10-2015
Originally Posted by Thorney:
“Funny how intolerant we are these days, back in the days of Windows 95/98 blue screens were almost a weekly occurence but we just laughed/sighed/sweared and carried on.”

I remember a nicer time before this conditioned instant society.
stvn758
12-10-2015
Originally Posted by Stig:
“What do you mean 'drag my media player across onto my TV'? If you take that literally it makes no sense.

Are you running 2 displays, one on your PC screen and another on the TV?”

Of course.

Like a rubber band, bouncing back to my small monitor.
finbaar
12-10-2015
Originally Posted by Javier_deVivre:
“After Windows 10 BSOD'ed on me for the second time since release, they can shove it up their ar§e!”

So only 2 BSODs? Lucky you. I upgraded my wife's laptop (used for work and her degree course) to 10 at the end of August. It seemed to be OK but then she told me it was restarting all the time, about every 10 minutes. Yes, it was the BSOD (kernel auto thing). It was to late to roll back but I had taken the precaution of taking an image of the hard drive before the upgrade.

On further investigation the BSOD was only on battery power not mains. Also a Dolby audio driver fault was popping up on start up. So I updated the drivers and deleted the Dolby audio program and all is well with the machine, no more BSOD on battery (so far). I think part of the problem was because she wouldn't let me do a clean install on her machine. The other two laptops where I have done this have had no problems at all.

So if 10 causes you a problem you should either fix it or roll back and stop complaining. Microsoft have made the upgrade and downgrade path very simple.
zx50
12-10-2015
Originally Posted by Javier_deVivre:
“After Windows 10 BSOD'ed on me for the second time since release, they can shove it up their ar§e!”

The odd time Windows 10 has shown me a blue screen after I've brought the computer out of sleep. It's been perfectly okay apart from that.
ScubaSteve21
12-10-2015
I am hopeful someone may be able to help me with a problem I am having.

I shut down my netbook this morning after working on a Word document. About 40 minutes later I went to switch it back on but every since trying to boot back up I am only getting a black screen, and no cursor.

I get the Windows logo with the circle dots loading at the bottom but then it goes to a black screen.

I have tried pressing Windows Key button+p and then down twice but nothing happened.

I have tried contacting it via a HDMI cable to my TV to see if that would work but I am still unable to see anything then. Is there anyway I can resolve this issue myself?
Javier_deVivre
12-10-2015
Originally Posted by Stig:
“Yeah, so you said in the other thread.

It's going to be a driver issue, so the sensible solution would be to find out which driver is causing the problem and fix it.”

Looks like it was a hard drive issue. One that I am not entirely sure is fixed.

I could get Windows XP to install, but both Windows 7 & Windows 8.1 wouldn't install, they would get so far into the installation and fail.

Ended up having to use my 8.1 installation media to completely nuke the HDD, removing even the system reserve partition to get it to work.

Time for a new computer I think.

It wouldn't be so bad if when it BSOD'ed it didn't knack it up completely so it wouldn't load. Both times it just got stuck in an endless loop of error messages when booting up.
Stig
12-10-2015
Originally Posted by ScubaSteve21:
“I am hopeful someone may be able to help me with a problem I am having.

I shut down my netbook this morning after working on a Word document. About 40 minutes later I went to switch it back on but every since trying to boot back up I am only getting a black screen, and no cursor.

I get the Windows logo with the circle dots loading at the bottom but then it goes to a black screen.

I have tried pressing Windows Key button+p and then down twice but nothing happened.

I have tried contacting it via a HDMI cable to my TV to see if that would work but I am still unable to see anything then. Is there anyway I can resolve this issue myself?”

Turn it off completely by keeping your finger on the power button.
Try booting again. If it still happens, try Ctrl-Alt-Del. I have seen this work when Explorer fails and you never get presented with a desktop.
ScubaSteve21
12-10-2015
Originally Posted by Stig:
“Turn it off completely by keeping your finger on the power button.
Try booting again. If it still happens, try Ctrl-Alt-Del. I have seen this work when Explorer fails and you never get presented with a desktop.”

Tried this a couple of times but no luck. I read somewhere about quickly turning off and on allows an automatic repair set up so I done that.

In the automatic repair I tried to choose to continue to windows 10 start up but same thing happened with the black screen and no cursor. I tried it again and I've chosen to reset my PC option. Currently trying this just now
callmediva
12-10-2015
Originally Posted by oilman:
“The easiest thing you can do is to upgrade using the windows media creation tool -see link below.

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/softw...load/windows10

But before you start, do you know your windows 7 install key, and do you have windows 7 recovery/install disk in case something goes wrong?

If not, you can make a full system image backup (good to do anyway) using this guide.

http://www.howtogeek.com/223139/how-...to-windows-10/”

tried that and it still booted up to a screen saying either close windows or try to repair, whichever I click i end up back at windows 7 with an error screen telling me....

OXC1900101-OX20017
safe_OS phase error boot or

er...yeah
alanwarwic
15-10-2015
http://betanews.com/2015/10/15/micro...to-display-ads
"Is this the price we’re expected to pay for Windows 10 being free?"

'Suggested apps' for now, but it is was always easy to see where things are likely going, what with the near 100% forced updates.
call100
15-10-2015
The option has been turned off on mine since it came into being. Not sure what your point is. If you don't want to see them then you don't need to. The choice is entirely yours.
I guess that wouldn't be in line with your message that everything about W10 is evil....
alanwarwic
15-10-2015
Nought to do with being evil, it is the logical future, not that different to how Google makes its money.

Dumbing it down to 'for or against' helps no one.
oilman
15-10-2015
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“http://betanews.com/2015/10/15/micro...to-display-ads
"Is this the price we’re expected to pay for Windows 10 being free?"

'Suggested apps' for now, but it is was always easy to see where things are likely going, what with the near 100% forced updates.”

No different to websites refusing to load if you have an adblocker on. MS at least give you the option to turn it off.

Besides your comment about Windows 10 being free is crap. Windows 10 is not free. MS are just running a promotion whereby upgrades are free for a limited period.

If you buy a licence, you still get the same options.

And what annoys me a bit is that you know this really, but choose to be deliberately provocative!
alanwarwic
15-10-2015
And your comment about it being my comment that 10 is free is deliberatively provacative crap.
It is a quote, not my comment, but one that likely reflects the aggressive free upgrade push from 7/8 to 10.

You do your wonderment and delight postings and we then get a balance somewhere in the middle, it certainly beats having us all being dum dums.
oilman
15-10-2015
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“And your comment about it being my comment that 10 is free is deliberatively provacative crap.
It is a quote, not my comment, but one that likely reflects the aggressive free upgrade push from 7/8 to 10.

You do your wonderment and delight postings and we then get a balance somewhere in the middle, it certainly beats having us all being dum dums.”

Yawn.
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