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Old 21-10-2015, 17:38
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You have gone the media creation tool route I take it?
No, I didn't know about that, I'll give it a try!
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Old 21-10-2015, 18:29
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OK, I tried the media creation tool and got the message;

There was a problem running this tool
We're not sure what happened, but we're unable to run this tool on your PC. If you continue experiencing problems, reference the error code when contacting customer support. Error code: 0x800704DD - 0x90016
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Old 21-10-2015, 22:10
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Well, on second attempt I got the media creation tool to run, but unfortunately it got to the same point (8%) then I got a clunky looking black and white progress bar, then a message saying attempting something or other (it flashed up too quick to read) then it said "restoring your previous version of windows" and went back to Windows 7 again. This seems destined not to happen.
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Old 21-10-2015, 23:21
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Well, on second attempt I got the media creation tool to run, but unfortunately it got to the same point (8%) then I got a clunky looking black and white progress bar, then a message saying attempting something or other (it flashed up too quick to read) then it said "restoring your previous version of windows" and went back to Windows 7 again. This seems destined not to happen.
When you ran the Windows 10 compatibility utility did it flag up any possible issues?
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Old 22-10-2015, 09:14
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Microsoft will release the “Threshold 2” release of Windows 10 in November as the Windows 10 Fall Update.
It has been rumoured November 2nd, but MS have not confirmed that date.
Threshold 2 is the internal code name for the update
The version number is 1511 ('15' for the year and '11' for the month).
Users can update to this version of Windows 10 directly from the RTM release, without having to install any prior builds or updates.
Those upgrading from previous versions of Windows will install the fall update, not the RTM version.
More details here;
https://www.thurrott.com/windows/win...vember-release

Looks like Edge will not be updated with any extensions in this November release. But will be next year. Though its been mentioned that insider builds later this year may have these.
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Old 22-10-2015, 09:49
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I wonder if "Windows as a service" is such a great idea. So far it resulted in a lower quality with an attitude why bother to test something properly, we just fix it and release it tomorrow. They don't even publish change logs anymore if it's "just" bugs.
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Old 22-10-2015, 13:42
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They're really trying hard now, Windows 10 popup now reads:

More than 100M people have already upgraded to Windows 10 - FREE!

Don't miss out!
Schedule your free upgrade!
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Old 22-10-2015, 14:25
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They're really trying hard now, Windows 10 popup now reads:

More than 100M people have already upgraded to Windows 10 - FREE!

Don't miss out!
Schedule your free upgrade!
Excellent news for an excellent product.
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Old 22-10-2015, 14:27
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The version number is 1511 ('15' for the year and '11' for the month).
The Americans really need to sort out their years and months format - once again it's day month and year.
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Old 22-10-2015, 14:33
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The Americans really need to sort out their years and months format - once again it's day month and year.

It is actually more logical to use YYMMDD, eg for a file archive system with multiple versions of same file :-

file151101
file151102
file151203

then when sorting, files are listed in date order.
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Old 22-10-2015, 14:43
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Don't they actually use MDY format in the US?
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Old 22-10-2015, 14:44
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It is actually more logical to use YYMMDD, eg for a file archive system with multiple versions of same file :-

file151101
file151102
file151203

then when sorting, files are listed in date order.
As I said it's day month year, always has been and always will be. Lot's of things in life may not fit someone's idea of logic but it's how things are.

I use the English (proper) date format on my computer and my files are listed in day month and year, newest at the top and I've never found it an issue
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Old 22-10-2015, 14:49
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Don't they actually use MDY format in the US?

Yes - it is like Danish counting - 123 is spoken as 1 hundred, three and twenty

Mind you 50 is worse, ie three minus half (times twenty). They drop the times twenty and just say halvtreds which means three minus a half.

Danish counting drives you nuts. Try adding two three digit numbers in your head!
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Old 22-10-2015, 15:05
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As I said it's day month year, always has been and always will be. Lot's of things in life may not fit someone's idea of logic but it's how things are.

I use the English (proper) date format on my computer and my files are listed in day month and year, newest at the top and I've never found it an issue
If you sort by date an actual date format is irrelevant. I think Americans use their date format for alphanumeric sorting/filing, so they have entries from the same month together, then come days and then years.
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Old 22-10-2015, 16:31
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As I said it's day month year, always has been and always will be. Lot's of things in life may not fit someone's idea of logic but it's how things are.

I use the English (proper) date format on my computer and my files are listed in day month and year, newest at the top and I've never found it an issue
I was talking about sorting on filenames, not sorting based on file created dates.

There are now recognised file namng conventions using yyyymmdd in fact.

http://www.recordsmanagement.ed.ac.u...ules/Rules.htm

Anyway, even though I am not a a great fan of the US style of naming, it is pompous of you to state the UK convention is the proper way, any more than saying numbers should use period for decimal point, and comma for thousands separator (reversed in Europe).
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Old 22-10-2015, 17:42
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Don't they actually use MDY format in the US?
Computer people tend to use the ISO8601 standard date format which goes YYMMDD or YYYYMMDD.
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Old 22-10-2015, 17:59
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When you ran the Windows 10 compatibility utility did it flag up any possible issues?
No, none at all.
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Old 22-10-2015, 20:04
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Computer people tend to use the ISO8601 standard date format which goes YYMMDD or YYYYMMDD.
I am computer people I was talking about US formatting, not ISO. ISO is good if you need a date as a locale-less string, but you should present a date in a format in a locale of the user.
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Old 22-10-2015, 23:01
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Anyway, even though I am not a a great fan of the US style of naming, it is pompous of you to state the UK convention is the proper way, any more than saying numbers should use period for decimal point, and comma for thousands separator (reversed in Europe).
Well given we have a far greater history I don't think it's pompous at all.

Anyone who doesn't use a comma to designate thousands at my place of work has their work rejected and sent back. As Ivan IV states in his post formats should be relevant to each country. What next I-ran instead of Iran?
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Old 23-10-2015, 01:19
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Yes - it is like Danish counting - 123 is spoken as 1 hundred, three and twenty

Mind you 50 is worse, ie three minus half (times twenty). They drop the times twenty and just say halvtreds which means three minus a half.

Danish counting drives you nuts. Try adding two three digit numbers in your head!
That's amazing - how did it happen - just so illogical.
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Old 23-10-2015, 08:23
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Microsoft issued a a statement about the extensions for Edge;

We’re committed to providing customers with a personalized web experience, which is why bringing extensions to Microsoft Edge continues to be a high priority. We’re actively working to develop a secure extension model to make the safest and most reliable browser for our customers, and look forward to sharing more in a future Windows 10 update in 2016
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Old 23-10-2015, 15:48
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A newly-released Windows Update is triggering the Blue Screen of Death on Surface devices and other Secure Boot-enabled PCs using Windows insider preview.

KB3105208, described as the Windows 10 Insider Preview October Update, a cumulative update.
Only affecting a Secure Boot-enabled PC and all Surface devices, including Surface Pro 3, Pro 4 and Surface Book.
Microsoft reports a workaround is to disable Secure Boot in the system firmware.
On a Surface, shut down the device, press and hold on the Volume Up button, press Power. when the Surface UEFI screen appears disable Secure Boot (under Security).
Microsoft mentioned a fixed version via Windows Update will be available soon, and it will be pulling the current version.
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Old 23-10-2015, 21:07
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Yes - it is like Danish counting - 123 is spoken as 1 hundred, three and twenty

Mind you 50 is worse, ie three minus half (times twenty). They drop the times twenty and just say halvtreds which means three minus a half.

Danish counting drives you nuts. Try adding two three digit numbers in your head!
That is just so true: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...f27fff3dc7.jpg (the very closely related Swedish and Norwegian languages have sane numbering systems)

It reminds me of French counting where 96 = 4x20+16 whereas Belgian French has a far more logical numbering system: http://forum.wordreference.com/threa...ingt-dix.4205/
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Old 23-10-2015, 21:38
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That is just so true: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...f27fff3dc7.jpg (the very closely related Swedish and Norwegian languages have sane numbering systems)

It reminds me of French counting where 96 = 4x20+16 whereas Belgian French has a far more logical numbering system: http://forum.wordreference.com/threa...ingt-dix.4205/
Shouldn't this be in the 'International Counting Systems' sub-forum?
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Old 23-10-2015, 23:20
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I know this is completely off topic - what has happened to posting search facility? It only seems to find posts from weeks ago and quite often on name search nothing at all. Makes following threads quite difficult.
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