THIS IS A FANTASTIC THREAD! To me, it's what '24' was missing when it went over to Sky and they didn't do a 'Pure-24' programme. So...

How about 'Pure DW', Mr Davies?

K

I like it!!!

Great thread - thought it must be the most viewed until I noticed that its being trounced by bloody wrestling!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/ been updated with the ufo crash landing

Thanks for the explanation. I think 'ability' was the wrong word for me to use, I suppose I meant is the master more superior 'technology-wise', so does he have an edge over the Doctor, or if they did/do battle is it an even-playing field? And if this other timelord has a name, Matthew, do we know the Doctor's name at all?

you can take the "Matthew" name with a pinch of salt.

I believe in one scene that the doctors real name was shown (or indicated at) and it was made up of lots of greek characters. I believe he does have some sort of shorter name (nickname?) along the lines of Theta Omega.

I think so. According to Einstein, doesn't time slow down (or speed up!, Can you tell I'm guessing? ) for you the faster you travel?



Cassandra did say that Earth was the cradle of civilisation.



I'd guess not, because aren't these UNIT troops? And don't we see the Brigadier? They know all about the Doctor and his abilities, and we see him taking command of them in the trailer.



I agree.

Loving your work, Alrightmate Keep the theories coming.

The Master is.......................




wait for it.









Rose...

Think about it, why did the Autons choose the shop Rose worked at.....

She 'played' along when the Boyfriend looked frankly ridiculously plastic.

She guided the Autons to kill the conspiracy chap cos he was getting too close for comfort. Why was he the first victim of the main attack?

She/He realised they Nestene wasn't up to the job and so dumped it and got the Doctor out of trouble.

Oh and you'd act a lot more weird if you spoke to your mother from five billion years ago. She was the last guest to see the spiders first victim... you know it's all a little too convenient.

She was 'helping' the Doctor get to London 1860, but they ended up in Cardiff in 1869. hmmmmm. She didn't want the maid hurt trying to delay the Doctor from stopping the Gelph...... hmmmmmm....

Well it fits just as well as some theories put forward.

BTW Adric MUST NOT RETURN, best thing they ever did killing him off, worst assistant ever......

or her boyfriend...

Yes, I despised Adric - anyone who's good at maths deserves a grissly demise

[quote=deaddog]you can take the "Matthew" name with a pinch of salt. QUOTE]

D'oh! <must learn not to be quite so gullible!>

Another great theory. The only weak point is the time loop thing as that means at the end opf the series the Dr sorts everything out and these stories never existed as such, a sure fire way to alienate new viewers (like the Bobby in the shower bit from Dallas)

Not the fact that the carriage hasn't left any tracks in the snow behind it?, bu tthere appear to be some in fromt..

Or am I getting it all backwards

It's in The Armageddon Factor - he is called Theta Sigma by another renegade from Gallifrey. Also in Rememberance Of The Daleks he leaves a card with the symbol on it.

There are other Time Lords that are possibly floating around the Universe as well as The Master, that could also fit the bill:

The Rani
Professor Chronitus from "Shada"
The Meddling Monk who appeared in The Time Meddler and The Daleks Masterplan (and re-appeared in a least one of the books)

maybe some more as well!!

Great thread everyone - some great theories being thrown up. I'm loving the new show, which has prompted me to buy some opld Tom Baker DVDs - fantastic fun. Great to see how the pace of TV has changed over the years. Anyhow, April 16 ep looks fab and will take the show to a whole new level - a two-parter remember!

Newbie here, its taken me since Saturday to read all the posts

So to summarise:
We have a Time War, and the Tardis or the Doctor could be the Bad Wolf

The doctor also meets someone that he thought was dead in Ep11, which will spin into the final 2 parter - which apparently involves the daleks.

So here's my theory.

All the adventures that the doctor has until Ep11 are cracks in time caused by the time war. (Therefore every alien has been affected in someway - and hence the reason the aliens all fear the time travelling machine - I love the idea that Bad Wolf is adopted name of the Tardis due to Graffitti)

The doctor refuses to go back and change time until something or someone in Ep11 persuades him to do so.
My money is on Romana, rather than the Master.

In Ep12, the doctor goes back in time to try and alter the outcome of the time war, which was started by the Daleks, who are hell bent on destroying Gallifrey. Remember the last time we saw the Daleks was when the 7th Doctor used the hand of Omega to send Skaro's sun supernova, thereby destroyed Skaro - the Daleks are wanting revenge on the doctor, and target Gallifrey.

He is successful, but since he broke the Time Lord Rules, he either dies, forcing a regeneration, or the Time Lords force him to regenerate for meddling... (they have always been ungrateful)

Just a theory - can't wait to see the rest of the series...

This 'long dead' person that some speculate could be Romana. How did she die? Did she run out of regenerations? Or do they mean long dead as in she was killed on Gallifrey?

SO we can agree that if this doctor starts interferring TOO much with time i.e as some of the suggestions that have been made here. Then RTD/BBC and sundry others will either right royally p**s orf new viewers to Doctor Who, i.e. those who don't understand what all this nonsense about sofas, or those of us who know only too well what the back of the sofa looks like.

I still say that the BBC and RTD have got to keep series 1 fairly simplistic and not get too caught up in righting tempral wrongs and putting time in the right order again.

Heck episode 4 and he still ain't got off earth yet or at least as close as you want to be when the sun blows up.

i'm not keen on the episodes going to the past, i like the future ones.

OK - I've had an idea (and we all know how dangerous that can be)

stuart62 said RTD is putting together a couple of scenarios that we haven't seen before in Doctor Who - and stuart62 is very good with the 'insider gossip' believe me. (are you RTD's best mate?)

One of them - suggested by Alrightmate - that the Doctor is stuck in a time loop seems very plausible to me. He keeps going back to change things, but they keep happening the way they always did hence they start all over again.

A recurring loop, where the outccome is always the same.

I think that's why he needs Rose - she gives him the idea to break the loop.

2). The same actor playing both the parts of the Doctor AND the Master.... never been done before that I remember.....

Oh, and Alrightmate, I agree about the Ipod and jukebox - I also took it as a twofold device, the second being the one to show how ideas/cultural references (MEME'S?) change over the millennia.

I agree with you - the victors in any war always set down the terms of the peace treaty. That's a given, as they say.

So who are they - the victors?

Well, going back to the books (sorry for those who haven't read them) but following the destruction of Gallifrey, 'magic' is much more proliferant in the universe, and lots of other races have now developed time travel technology.

So maybe it is a coalition of these new, time-travelling races that won the war and then decided that the technology is too dangerous (not least because it would change the outcome) but because it also caused such devastation in the first place. The plumber from the 'End of the World' story said she was from a planet in a hierarchical galaxy, if I understood her description of her planet correctly.

She was president of Gallifrey during the war (at least in the books) and her biodata would most certainly be in the matrix, so yes, she'd have died along with everyone else.

I'm not too keen on that idea (too star treky).

There is a bit of a paradox (in our speculation) that the timewar has already happened and it involved the "bad wolf", but yet the tardis only appears to be christened the "bad wolf" in next weeks episode. Of course by paradox I don't imply flaw, with time travel these things can happen, even if it confuses the average viewer.

What is going to be the clincher is the way the doctor reacts to seeing "bad wolf" on the tardis (in next weeks episode).

my take (based on ideas out forward on this board by others)
"Bad wolf" is a tag
all episodes slowly reveal more about the time war until episode 10
doctor loses his tardis (still with bad wolf on it) (hmmmm)
The tardis is sent back in time (by the daleks) to kick off the timewar.
the master finds the doctor and teams up to defeat the daleks before they defeat the time lords.

..that is my theory ..... even if I now realise there are two flaws in it. (im sure they can be explained away if I tried)

Yes - that's why I think the stories are a neverending loop - the Doctor keeps going through the same scenarios over and over again.

Except this time round, the time we're watching on screen, he's done something different. He's taken Rose with him.

Would explain away a few inconsistencies too - like, for example, how he managed to take so long to cross the air-conditioning duct in episode 2. He did because that's how he had to, to allow events to work themselves out in such a way that they reach the right point in the future for him to have a chance of changing them.

Typical! Put a woman in charge and see what happens.




Also the term "A long time dead" can just refer to someone you haven't seen for years. They don't have to of actually died. Mostly though it's said about people that you wished they had died.

There may be a Bad Wolf, but does the Doctor turn out to be the Black Sheep of the Timelords?

Stay tuned for more and more questions and less and less answers.

Thanks Victor,

Don't think that I know any more than you about Doctor Who though, because the truth is that I don't remember that much from the old series at all. Very little.
I might be able to remember certain characters, and one or two scenes, but I couldn't tell you what actually happened in any stories, because my memories are just too vague.

I'm only basically going by what we see right now, and trying to piece things together as we see them in this story.
I think most of the detective work is about seeing how this particular story is constructed, and the clues lie more in these epiosdes, and clues from the older series are a bit more shaky, and although possible, they are much less reliable than what we are actually seeing on the screen right now.

Any time I refer to the old series, I'm often asking other people here if I've got it right, or if something is possible.
Just checking things out with other posters and testing ideas out to see if they are workable.

That's why that although I suggested that The Master or Romana crop up in episode 11, I'm only thinking it's possible, and not believing in it fully until we get more clues in the series we are watching.

You probably know a lot more then me about the old series.

I'm just enjoying playing this detective mystery much like everyone else, and mainly using the story we are watching right now for clues which are more reliable, rather than hoping Russell T Davies is using events that happened in anything outside of Russell T Davies' creation.

I think we have a good chance of being right about "Bad Wolf".
"Bad Wolf" sounds exactly like a name that a gang member might use if they thought it sounded "cool".
Because I think we were given a clue to how the writers were thinking when they used the IPod and Britney Spears jokes.
I think they were jokes that worked, but I believe they came about from the writer's imagination so that when we find out what Bad Wolf is. it gives you an "Ahh, of course, they did that sort of thing with the Ipod" sort of moment.
The Ipod and Britney jokes are probably deliberate clues in themseves.
Not so much with the actual plotline of the main story itself, but maybe more about how they are thinking in the way they are writing the story.