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Old 09-04-2005, 20:03
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Originally Posted by DavidT
Personally I think most kids would have loved it.

I really hope you are right.

I did get shivers seeing the reanimated dead! Not something you see at teatime very often!

I'll watch it again of course. Ive found that the eps get better the second time around. Maybe my expectations are always too high.
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:03
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Originally Posted by Victor
Great episode this week, my favourite so far. And another mention of the 'Bad Wolf'. This is scrawled across the TARDIS is next week's episode, and was mentioned by the Moxx in last week's. I wonder what it means.

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Didn't the Bad Wolf disguise himself as someone else to attract the naive Red Riding Hood.

Maybe the Doctor isn't who we think he is!
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:04
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This series is soooo much better than the previous ones. Having a complete story in each episode is a big improvement. Russell T Davies is very good at picking actors with very good facial expression. Christopher Eccleston shares this skill with Casanova's David Tennent.
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:04
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I think the new show really suffers from the lack of multi-episode stories and cliffhangers.
Russel T. Davies addressed this at one of the press conferences. The lack of multi-episode stories was because he (and the other producers) agreed that today's generation of kids probably wouldn't stick with the program if the episodes went over many weeks. Something about kids and how they get and react to TV today.

That being said, there are (apparently) a couple of multi-episode stories coming along later in the series.

Davies's outlined the whole series (as head writer). Even though Gatiss wrote tonight's episode, Davies was responsible for outlining the story (the time, place, and the apperance of Dickens) ... as he's done for all the episodes. So a previous comment about wondering if the mention of a time war had something to do with last week's mention about the Doctor being the last surviving Time lord ... yup, I think so

Wonder if RTD gets under-age gay sex a look-in
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:04
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Message for Deaddog...no poll this week for The Unquiet Dead?
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:07
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Originally Posted by DavidT
Not sure those living in Cardiff will be too impressed though!
Why do you say that?

On a pedantic point, none of the characters actually had a Cardiff accent, which is different from a valleys accent, but it didn't spoil the programme.

The great thing about Doctor Who is that it makes a refreshing change from all the usual formulaic Saturday night entertainment. Well done to the controller of BBC1 for having the courage to put it on at 7pm rather than the less competitive 5.30pm slot.
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:08
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Originally Posted by Daruk
Wonder if RTD gets under-age gay sex a look-in


Naughty!
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:09
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Originally Posted by thecreepingmess
Didn't the Bad Wolf disguise himself as someone else to attract the naive Red Riding Hood.

Maybe the Doctor isn't who we think he is!

Ahh, you mean that the 'real' Doctor will appear later in the series? Dressed as Casanova perhaps?

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Old 09-04-2005, 20:10
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Originally Posted by LadyKnight
Wasn't this weeks episode brilliant. I loved Charles Dickens and the maid was really brave (I almost said dead brave there!)
The maid was creepy!

When she was slowly reading Rose's mind I was getting really freaked out.

I do wish Rose would stop having these little feminist chats with every girl she meets, though. It seems a little obviously-written-by-a-man to me.
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:10
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Originally Posted by Westward
Why do you say that?

On a pedantic point, none of the characters actually had a Cardiff accent, which is different from a valleys accent, but it didn't spoil the programme.

The great thing about Doctor Who is that it makes a refreshing change from all the usual formulaic Saturday night entertainment. Well done to the controller of BBC1 for having the courage to put it on at 7pm rather than the less competitive 5.30pm slot.
In Jest! The Docotrs' joke about having to die in Cardiff etc and ending up in Cardiff in the first place.
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:11
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Originally Posted by jimscrivener
Is that Time War the same thing that destroyed the Time Lords, I wonder?
I'd take that as a given!

Another piece of the puzzle slots into place - not only a great war, but a time war (couldn't have been any other kind, of course, to wipe out Gallifrey completely).

Softly softly catchey monkey....
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:15
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The only thing I'm waiting for now if for them to leave the planet for a story.

Do they ever actually ever leave the place or just travel backwards and forwards in time...
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:18
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Do you think RTD has referred to the book where Gallifrey was destroyed or is this a story arc he is developing himself to hook new viewers to the series?

Could the Doctor have 'sacrifice' his new body up as penance for his involvement in the Time War....

Too many questions..but I love it...
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:18
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Actually I wonder if the aliens read the Doctors mind - realised his emotional weakness attached to the loss of his race and planet and used that as the lever to get him to help them. In doing so it continued to reinforce the potential story arc here
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:19
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Originally Posted by dronkula
The only thing I'm waiting for now if for them to leave the planet for a story.

Do they ever actually ever leave the place or just travel backwards and forwards in time...
Did you not see last week's?
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:20
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Loevly stuff. When Gwen mentioned the Big Bad Wolf, I remembered a clip where a kid sprays "Bad Wolf" on the TARDIS. Next week's episode.

Dr Who: the series that keeps on giving!!
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:22
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Wow! That was a brilliant episode! Based on the first two episodes I didn't think it could get this good. Eerie, amusing, entertaining, very CBBC-like (in a good way). And best of all, confident enough to tell the story without any of that pop-culture-irony garbage. CE still grins too much, but I'll let it go this time.

9 out of 10. More of the same please!
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:23
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Its not really ant and dec vs doctor who more like Little Ant and Dec vs Doctor who as each week the papers/ people always pick on who they meet tony blair etc. Its a tad sad when you think the best bit of the show is two 10 year olds.

Anyway this weeks dr who was excellent - I thought Billie Piper was brilliant as was Chris Eccleston. Next weeks one looks good.

all in all 9/10
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:26
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Message for Deaddog...no poll this week for The Unquiet Dead?
I think only mods can create one, and I asked for one about three hours ago. All the polls to date have been "late", in fact the first poll was two days after episode one, and the second poll was created about three hours after the second episode.
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:27
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That smile is rather unsettling at times I must admit but think CE is great and Billie (who I must admit I had doubts over when I first head she had got the part last year) gets better with each episode. She really makes you feel as if you are seeing it from her perspective.

Hope they ask Mark Gatiss to write another story next year.

Thanks for asking for the poll Deaddog...appreciated.
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:27
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Originally Posted by DavidT
If that is true, its a sad indictment of todays children if you really think that they are unable to appreciate a story and not intellegent enough to understand it. Personally I think most kids would have loved it.
It had my 6 year old girl hooked, especially the blue ghosts swirling and the finale.

Incidently, did anyone elso notice Dickens say in the doorway of the undertakers house "What the Shakespear is going on?" Nice touch!!
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:28
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Another very good episode. Seems to be a thread running through these stories, about our responsibility towards humankind. Something that wasn't present in the old Dr Who: we see the universe through Rose's eyes instead of as dispassionate observers. It's a more sophisticated approach and it works well. Pretty much the TV highlight of the week now.
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:30
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Another good episode.

As for the questions of whether the kids like it, my 10 year old does, but he's still saying it's not really scary (desensitised by console games, perhaps?)

I liked the mention of the Time War - as others have said, it seems to be an unfolding theme throughout the series.

Good visual effects again as well. I was thinking that in the old days, there would have been some godawful cheap effects for the ghosts - actors dressed in sheets in bluescreen or something.
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:31
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Originally Posted by DenWatts
I'd take that as a given!

Another piece of the puzzle slots into place - not only a great war, but a time war (couldn't have been any other kind, of course, to wipe out Gallifrey completely).

Softly softly catchey monkey....
So it looks like "the new who" is a series reset and a continuation at the same time. It could be the cybermen never existed ....
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Old 09-04-2005, 20:33
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Originally Posted by Inkblot
Another very good episode. Seems to be a thread running through these stories, about our responsibility towards humankind. Something that wasn't present in the old Dr Who: we see the universe through Rose's eyes instead of as dispassionate observers. It's a more sophisticated approach and it works well. Pretty much the TV highlight of the week now.
Spot on! Think RTD has retained the essence of what the series was about but given it more of an edge which is why it works so much better. Will always have a soft spot for the classic series but if it had been brought back as it was then I am not sure it would've worked.

The Cybermen and Daleks will always exist but hopefully we will be seeing them through different eyes!
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