Hiya all,

Been a bit busy today, so all I've had chance to do is catch up on the pages & pages of input.

Please don't hate me, but I can't buy the timeloop theory. Don't ask me why, but it just doesn't sit right.

RTD & his gang of gallifreyophiles strike me as a subtle bunch.

Anyone who has read The Name of the Rose (by Umberto Ecco) and Feet of Clay (by Terry Pratchett) will see that there are deliberate similarities between the two. Pratchett uses some of the same clues as Ecco - but they are red herrings in his story! However, just like Ecco, all the real clues are there too.

I think RTD is doing this to us: "Look children" he is saying "I've got some lovely clues for you here. This one tastes like Babylon 5, whilst that one has just a hint of Back to the Future".

What he is not telling us is that some of them are leading us up some very brambly garden paths!

Personally I don't care if I'm right or wrong - the entire journey has been fun so far, and I don't see it getting any less so over the coming months.

PS I know I have referred to The Name of the Rose before, but something about that book keeps coming back on me!

^^^You know, if you're right, I hope DS will be kind enough to delete all traces of these theories!

If they don't, we'll look like right prats



Edit: Forgot to say - get well soon Den!

God, I've only been here today, and already the regular posters feel like family *sniffs, wipes tear*

I'm still not sure about The Master either.

I would have thought we'd hear about which actor might be playing the Master in this series, or some hype about it and speculation.
We got hype about the Daleks, so surely we would have got hype about the Master too if he was going to be in it.

Re. the Doctor Meeting someone from his past whom he thought long dead.



Two words:


























Magnus Greel.

But the Daleks are expected. From what I gather, the Master died, so wouldn't be expected.

If an actor was revealed, then that would more or less give the game away

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Ditto

Hey, just think: if none of this does happen, and we're talking nonsense, we could make a fortune writing the next series for them

Now I think I'll go to bed. My head is begining to swell

Yes, but only if you think you know what the game is because you assume that The Master is involved.

If the Master isn't involved then it's a diferent game altogether.

Anyway, good night to all who are off to bed.

Good grief! Do you people never sleep?!

Somebody questioned this a while ago:



The answer is YES as Chris mentioned it during an interview in the Welsh radio documentary I mentioned a couple of pages back. I think most people had worked this one out already but Chris's words should dispell any doubts.

Right - off to work. I'll read the 17 next pages which are bound to appear later!

This is making loads of sense to me now. If we assume that there is a timeloop it must have a start and an end.
My money is on that the explosion on the shop roof at the start of the first episode is the end of the loop, the Dr gets killed at that point and regenerates, but because he has failed to change time the loop starts again which is why when he goes to Roses flat he comments on his appearance (afterall he has just regenerated)

H eobviously in this instance decides that Rose is a possible 'spanner in the works' which is why after he dematerializes at the end of the episode he comes back to convince her to come with him.

The Automns were controlled from the London Eye NOT a transmitter on top of tghe store so whatever transmitter he was destroying was NOTthe autons one (did he ever say it was ?) and whatever it is he wants to destroy may be the trigger of the time war ?
Last edited by Mark Ramsden : 14-04-2005 at 10:29

Now this I like

Allow me to talk cobblers for a moment. I wonder if there's a 'Bad Wolf' (The Tardis), and a 'Big Bad Wolf' (The Master's Tardis) which 'Who' is afraid of.

The Doctor says that they are "living plastic [...] controlled by a transmitter on the roof."

I had assumed that this was a "dummy" run. & that these were not full strength Autons or they would just have shot the Doctor & Rose.

However...

In the light of grand conspiracy theories, perhaps the Nestene wanted/needed Rose (unique genetic makeup?) and/or the Doctor.

It has just struck me as well that the Nestene have needed help in their other attempts at taking over the world (humans & a "super Auton" in Spearhead From Space, the Master in Terror of the Autons) - so who were their collaborators this time?

Linda Barker - bound to be her as I've not seen her on the telly for at least a week or two

Serioulsy though, I had thought of a double-act scenario - Daleks are prime villains. Would be good if left it unclear for possible series 2 resolution

Bugger that's my theory sunk then

Unless stopping the attempted Auton invasion will change history just enough ....


That's a very good point

Has anyone thought of googling Bad Wolf and digging round the 400 million or so sites to see what could possibly be any slight relevance. Of course you must first filter out any references to BIG bad wolf.

H77 still thinks an awful lot of people are hanging a damn big hat on a very very tiny peg.

The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed

Has anyone put in an order for a sonic screwdriver for Christmas????

I could do with one for DIYing around the house.

Get ready for Dr Who toys overload....

I Googled Bad Wolf Scenario and posted a precis in post #409.

Basically there is no accepted BWS.

Whether it's a majore plot thread or a clever "in joke" it's got people talking and thinking!

RTD has used Rose in his previous work. I think its one of his favourite names, as is Tyler, which he also used in Queer as Folk.

There is definately more to Rose than meets the eye - we still have to find out why she had to leave school at 15.

I wouldn't mind some of that psychic paper!

Because her Dad died, and they needed an income ?

Yes, I'm sure Toys R Us will be swamped with requests for all sorts - along with the obligatory family sized bag of jelly babies

I don't know if this is new to everyone, but the actor Bruno Langley who played Todd Grimshaw in Coronation Street becomes The Doctor's new assistant in Episodes 6 and 7.

This has just been mentioned this very minute on "This Morning" with their resident TV and Soap "expert".

I'd heard the actor's name associated with Doctor Who before, but I didn't know in relation to what, so didn't pay much attention to it at that time.
Last edited by Alrightmate : 14-04-2005 at 12:57

He certainly does not replace Rose.

No he certainly doesn't, of that we can be sure.