Nice one.

Now that does look like a subtle clue put in there.

It might be coincidence, but the two people who received the air from his lungs...died.

The downloads have been available for several days, I've seen the trailer several times, it's cool!

Have only just been alerted to this thread continuing after I left the forum.

The way the BBC works is they stagger the information that is released. If they told us everything all at once then there would be nothing to look forward to and no surprises. The Daleks of course couldn't be kept secret given the on/off situation with theNation Estate at the time and also it gave the series publicity before that story had even been filmed.

My money is on The Master. I go along with the theory put forward by Den Watts who suggested that making it the most obvious choice will make people think that it isn't him but what better way than use the double bluff scenario.

JNT went to great lengths to conceal The Master's reappearance in Keeper of Traken so perhaps RTD is doing exactly the same.

I am by no means 100% certain as I am not working on the production and would be more than happy to eat my Tom Baker scarf (only joking!) if I turn out to be wrong. I just get the feeling that RTD has a few surprises in store for us before we reach the penultimate episodes and what better way than have The Doctor face his nemesis and perhaps question his belief that was the last Time Lord.

Perhaps that makes him even more vulnerable as he goes into the stories that may deal with the Time War.

RTD has written at least one as well.

Wow, didn't think about that - just like the first 2 little pigs...

Well, I ain't asking him for mouth-to-mouth

The pigs didn't die - they took refuge with the third one.

Anyway, it's a good point, Alrightmate. They didn't just die - the doctor played a part in their death.

Also, on the subject of death, have you noticed as well that the 2 people that Rose has had girly chats with have died as well? Fits in nicely with my "Rose being death" theory....

There is a definite theme running through all these stories. When I first picked up on the bad wolf reference I thought it referred to The Master but reading through some of you cleverly thought out plots I am beginning to see that a number of options are open for this to go.

Very intrigued by the big bad wolf and 3 little pigs scenario that many of you have drawn our attention to but equally the theory about the TARDIS and how the bad wolf tag stuck is equally plausible.

Perhaps after seeing the kid spray paint the TARDIS with the tag in Aliens of London it might make things clearer...

Big bad wolf... little red riding hood...

In episode two, the first thing Rose's mum mentions is her red top... hmmm...

Perhaps The Doctor is a symbol of death or perhaps he isn't all as he seems as some have suggested on the forums.

Or as someone has suggested Rose could be the bringer of death...that would be a turn up for the books, no mistake!

There is more to their relationship, the connection between them than meets the eye and how those elements could possibly change future events or events that have already happened.

Took a while to find, but this is what I based my destruction of Gallifrey by the Daleks on (and said it had been confirmed as fact).

Of course, as Alrightmate said, this doesn't mean this will feature in the final two-parter.

Sheesh!!!

After I'd finished watching the first episode, I never thought I'd be sitting here at 20 past 1 in the morning, discussing subtle clues to a wider plot!!!!!

Now, that really has set the cat amongst the pigeons!

Oh no, not cat's and pigeons now!!!

I'm too wrapped up in wolfie for that

So are we back on the theory that The Doctor is the big bad wolf again? If so, wouldn't Mr Watts theory that The Doctor might not exactly be The Doctor?

That's what I thought orginally too, but the first result for 3 little pigs on google found http://www-math.uni-paderborn.de/~od...pigs/pig2.html

I was going to write that in my theory, but you beat me to it.
Damn.

Yes, I believe that it's very definitely Little Red Riding Hood's wolf too.

In the washing machine scene when Rose phone's her mum from 5 billion years in the future, it very clearly highlights Rose's mum telling Rose that her red top is falling apart as she takes it out of the washing machine.
Now think about if you were directing the episode, or filming it, or writing it,...would you really write that bit in?
Wouldn't you just mention the top, and not think of describing it's colour?
It does actually highlight it by lingering on it for a few seconds.
Or more importantly, would you even bother writing that bit in, or even have her mum making any reference to a top at all.
You'd need to watch it again to see what I mean.

What colour is a Rose?
Red.
What does a Tyler (Tiler) do?
Covers roofs, or a kind of hood maybe.

Delivering a cake when she is deceived and led astray by a Wolf.
Delivering Lottery money when she is deceived and led astray by the Doctor.

All three episodes so far, Rose has worn hooded tops of one kind or another.
In the first episode her top is almost red, a darkish pink I suppose.

These could be coincidences, but I get the feeling that they aren't mistakes.

Of course these references to the Three Little Pigs, and Red Riding hood could be red herrings to make us think we've worked out something significant, and so we can pat ourselves on the backs, so that we don't focus on what the writers are really trying to hide from us.

But I think at least one wolf reference is going to mean something. The Wolf in sheep's clothing metaphor is one I think they're going to use.

Again, in the books (and sorry to mention them again, but considering four people involved with writing for the new series also wrote books, I think it's relevant) the "Doctor's companion is death" is a common metaphor for the idea that whatever the Doctor needs to do to resolve a situation, no matter how many people he saves, someone always ends up being killed.

He considers it for the greater good (and it always is) but people are starting to question his 'damage limitation' abilities.

Like lambs to the....

[Enough now, Ed]

Using the story as a template, could we speculate then that The Doctor is being drawn into a trap?

(Like the graphics, though )

We really, really need a smiley that's for intriguing!!!!

My thinking too so does it add credibility to our friend Mr Watts theory about The Doctor perhaps not being The Doctor?

That, or he'll come across a villian that is too strong for him to defeat.

or or both do we think?

Both combined would be VERY strong.