I've said this before...the reason for no live feed is down to the viewers and the PC brigade who complain about anything and everything. Live feed doesn't cost that much...Channel 5 have said before that it's cheap. I recently watched back BB6 and it was absolutely full of racist and homophobic comments, undertones and insinuations. Some of the arguments were also seriously aggressive. The series would never stay on the air if it was aired today. If we had live feed today, Channel 5 would be batting off complaints here, there and everywhere. It would be more trouble than it's worth for Channel 5. It's not like it used to be...these days people complain about everything and people are way too easily offended.
"Where's the live feed?!"
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Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“I've said this before...the reason for no live feed is down to the viewers and the PC brigade who complain about anything and everything. Live feed doesn't cost that much...Channel 5 have said before that it's cheap. I recently watched back BB6 and it was absolutely full of racist and homophobic comments, undertones and insinuations. Some of the arguments were also seriously aggressive. The series would never stay on the air if it was aired today. If we had live feed today, Channel 5 would be batting off complaints here, there and everywhere. It would be more trouble than it's worth for Channel 5. It's not like it used to be...these days people complain about everything and people are way too easily offended.”
“I've said this before...the reason for no live feed is down to the viewers and the PC brigade who complain about anything and everything. Live feed doesn't cost that much...Channel 5 have said before that it's cheap. I recently watched back BB6 and it was absolutely full of racist and homophobic comments, undertones and insinuations. Some of the arguments were also seriously aggressive. The series would never stay on the air if it was aired today. If we had live feed today, Channel 5 would be batting off complaints here, there and everywhere. It would be more trouble than it's worth for Channel 5. It's not like it used to be...these days people complain about everything and people are way too easily offended.”
Agreed. Any series aired prior to CBB5 would never make it on the air today.
Originally Posted by sj8585:
“Her dream job seems to have turned into a bit of a nightmare. I think this is her last main series and doesn't seem to really care what the producers will think. She might be around for January CBB but after that, I really can't see it.”
“Her dream job seems to have turned into a bit of a nightmare. I think this is her last main series and doesn't seem to really care what the producers will think. She might be around for January CBB but after that, I really can't see it.”
On the Twitter q+a thing she said she would stay as long as she's wanted.
Originally Posted by Barracute:
“Was a bit random wasnt it? Not sure if she was being cheeky or giving them upstairs a nudge?”
“Was a bit random wasnt it? Not sure if she was being cheeky or giving them upstairs a nudge?”
I think she actually meant it.
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“I've said this before...the reason for no live feed is down to the viewers and the PC brigade who complain about anything and everything. Live feed doesn't cost that much...Channel 5 have said before that it's cheap. I recently watched back BB6 and it was absolutely full of racist and homophobic comments, undertones and insinuations. Some of the arguments were also seriously aggressive. The series would never stay on the air if it was aired today. If we had live feed today, Channel 5 would be batting off complaints here, there and everywhere. It would be more trouble than it's worth for Channel 5. It's not like it used to be...these days people complain about everything and people are way too easily offended.”
“I've said this before...the reason for no live feed is down to the viewers and the PC brigade who complain about anything and everything. Live feed doesn't cost that much...Channel 5 have said before that it's cheap. I recently watched back BB6 and it was absolutely full of racist and homophobic comments, undertones and insinuations. Some of the arguments were also seriously aggressive. The series would never stay on the air if it was aired today. If we had live feed today, Channel 5 would be batting off complaints here, there and everywhere. It would be more trouble than it's worth for Channel 5. It's not like it used to be...these days people complain about everything and people are way too easily offended.”
I want to agree with this as there are undoubtedly many people like that nowadays. Do you know if they had a lot of complaints from dexter's year? As we had a couple of hrs feed every night.
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“I've said this before...the reason for no live feed is down to the viewers and the PC brigade who complain about anything and everything. Live feed doesn't cost that much...Channel 5 have said before that it's cheap. I recently watched back BB6 and it was absolutely full of racist and homophobic comments, undertones and insinuations. Some of the arguments were also seriously aggressive. The series would never stay on the air if it was aired today. If we had live feed today, Channel 5 would be batting off complaints here, there and everywhere. It would be more trouble than it's worth for Channel 5. It's not like it used to be...these days people complain about everything and people are way too easily offended.”
“I've said this before...the reason for no live feed is down to the viewers and the PC brigade who complain about anything and everything. Live feed doesn't cost that much...Channel 5 have said before that it's cheap. I recently watched back BB6 and it was absolutely full of racist and homophobic comments, undertones and insinuations. Some of the arguments were also seriously aggressive. The series would never stay on the air if it was aired today. If we had live feed today, Channel 5 would be batting off complaints here, there and everywhere. It would be more trouble than it's worth for Channel 5. It's not like it used to be...these days people complain about everything and people are way too easily offended.”
As I've stated in other threads, if the live feed was online only (which in this day & age it likely would be) it does not need to follow the same TV rules as if it were broadcast on TV/red button & this would not be an issue. Channel 5 are simply CHOOSING not to have a live feed.
Also re: complaints, wasn't last years Big Brother the most complained about TV show anyway? So what difference would it make, even if the live feed did garner complaints?
In regards to Emma's comment, I think it was a ridiculous thing to say but I don't think she was meaning to rile the audience up.
Originally Posted by Pamthehound:
“Tonights show was a complete and utter shambles”
“Tonights show was a complete and utter shambles”
I have to agree. What was the point of watching a padded out 90 minutes to just end when it all kicks off? Beyond stupidity. This current production team are absolute morons!!
Originally Posted by TheElf:
“As I've stated in other threads, if the live feed was online only (which in this day & age it likely would be) it does not need to follow the same TV rules as if it were broadcast on TV/red button & this would not be an issue. Channel 5 are simply CHOOSING not to have a live feed.”
“As I've stated in other threads, if the live feed was online only (which in this day & age it likely would be) it does not need to follow the same TV rules as if it were broadcast on TV/red button & this would not be an issue. Channel 5 are simply CHOOSING not to have a live feed.”
It wouldn't have to follow the same rules, but if viewers don't like something they see or an incident, then they complain and it creates a lot of work for Channel 5. Every single complaint or issue made requires actions/a response from Channel 5, and a process that must be followed. It takes a lot of time and it's a lot of work for Channel, especially these days when people get offended by anything.
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“Also re: complaints, wasn't last years Big Brother the most complained about TV show anyway? So what difference would it make, even if the live feed did garner complaints?”
“Also re: complaints, wasn't last years Big Brother the most complained about TV show anyway? So what difference would it make, even if the live feed did garner complaints?”
Exactly, it was. And that's without live feed. If we had live feed and were able to see more of what goes on there would be even more complaints. Take the alleged incident with Jay McKray and the faeces in the freezer...that wasn't shown and we weren't made aware of that for a reason...Channel 5 knew that they would have been fending off loads of complaints.
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“It wouldn't have to follow the same rules, but if viewers don't like something they see or an incident, then they complain and it creates a lot of work for Channel 5. Every single complaint or issue made requires actions/a response from Channel 5, and a process that must be followed. It takes a lot of time and it's a lot of work for Channel, especially these days when people get offended by anything.
Exactly, it was. And that's without live feed. If we had live feed and were able to see more of what goes on there would be even more complaints. Take the alleged incident with Jay McKray and the faeces in the freezer...that wasn't shown and we weren't made aware of that for a reason...Channel 5 knew that they would have been fending off loads of complaints.”
“It wouldn't have to follow the same rules, but if viewers don't like something they see or an incident, then they complain and it creates a lot of work for Channel 5. Every single complaint or issue made requires actions/a response from Channel 5, and a process that must be followed. It takes a lot of time and it's a lot of work for Channel, especially these days when people get offended by anything.
Exactly, it was. And that's without live feed. If we had live feed and were able to see more of what goes on there would be even more complaints. Take the alleged incident with Jay McKray and the faeces in the freezer...that wasn't shown and we weren't made aware of that for a reason...Channel 5 knew that they would have been fending off loads of complaints.”
The thing is though C5 actively seem to seek out controversy etc. If they just let a series play out as normal then perhaps they wouldn't need to be as guarded in terms of controversy which they are constantly trying to engineer.
All of the tasks nowadays are engineered towards poking and prodding the housemates till they snap. They're all about dragging up things people have said about eachother, showing nominations, viewer opinions of each housemates etc.
Then the one time things are bubbling up nicely and dynamics are slowly starting to build they throw it all out the window because it's "too boring". Chuck a few OTT knob heads in, get them to shout at people and rile them up for no reason, chuck in endless twists and you're basically asking the housemates to hate eachother. This is what BB has become about.
So maybe they should actually stop all of this, listen to what fans want, have a normal house and let things build up naturally to the point where they shouldn't have to be worried all the time of complaints etc. You can't really have it both ways.
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“It wouldn't have to follow the same rules, but if viewers don't like something they see or an incident, then they complain and it creates a lot of work for Channel 5. Every single complaint or issue made requires actions/a response from Channel 5, and a process that must be followed. It takes a lot of time and it's a lot of work for Channel, especially these days when people get offended by anything.
Exactly, it was. And that's without live feed. If we had live feed and were able to see more of what goes on there would be even more complaints. Take the alleged incident with Jay McKray and the faeces in the freezer...that wasn't shown and we weren't made aware of that for a reason...Channel 5 knew that they would have been fending off loads of complaints.”
“It wouldn't have to follow the same rules, but if viewers don't like something they see or an incident, then they complain and it creates a lot of work for Channel 5. Every single complaint or issue made requires actions/a response from Channel 5, and a process that must be followed. It takes a lot of time and it's a lot of work for Channel, especially these days when people get offended by anything.
Exactly, it was. And that's without live feed. If we had live feed and were able to see more of what goes on there would be even more complaints. Take the alleged incident with Jay McKray and the faeces in the freezer...that wasn't shown and we weren't made aware of that for a reason...Channel 5 knew that they would have been fending off loads of complaints.”
They don't have to do deal with internet complaints, actually, because as you agreed, they don't need to follow the same rules. Usually a disclaimer is enough to cover any online content.
Complaints about the TV show directed to Channel 5 & not ofcom, would be dealt with by their complaints department, which is there is for a reason. People are paid to deal with complaints - it's not a reason for not broadcasting something.
Complaints directed at Ofcom usually brings free advertising with the press surrounding the complaints (especially with the length of time it takes to investigate the incidents, the results are often out around the start of a new season in BB/CBB's case). In the instance that a fine is issued, it's usually a minuscule amount compared to the amount of coverage the complaints/results have gained.
It's win/win, reality TV thrives on controversy. So the complaints thing is a non-issue and just another excuse (with no factual evidence to back it up) as to why they don't have a live feed, when the simple fact is that they are choosing not to have one.
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“It wouldn't have to follow the same rules, but if viewers don't like something they see or an incident, then they complain and it creates a lot of work for Channel 5. Every single complaint or issue made requires actions/a response from Channel 5, and a process that must be followed. It takes a lot of time and it's a lot of work for Channel, especially these days when people get offended by anything.
Exactly, it was. And that's without live feed. If we had live feed and were able to see more of what goes on there would be even more complaints. Take the alleged incident with Jay McKray and the faeces in the freezer...that wasn't shown and we weren't made aware of that for a reason...Channel 5 knew that they would have been fending off loads of complaints.”
“It wouldn't have to follow the same rules, but if viewers don't like something they see or an incident, then they complain and it creates a lot of work for Channel 5. Every single complaint or issue made requires actions/a response from Channel 5, and a process that must be followed. It takes a lot of time and it's a lot of work for Channel, especially these days when people get offended by anything.
Exactly, it was. And that's without live feed. If we had live feed and were able to see more of what goes on there would be even more complaints. Take the alleged incident with Jay McKray and the faeces in the freezer...that wasn't shown and we weren't made aware of that for a reason...Channel 5 knew that they would have been fending off loads of complaints.”
Don't other countries' versions of BB have a live feed?
And have Channel 5 themselves said that they can't have a live feed in some form due to too many complaints?
I am not sure how this "PC brigade" thing came to surface. If you followed "IT has been confirmed...live feed has been axed part...13" Ben Frow has stated the following:
Cost is not the issue
What it comes down to is editorial control and nothing more. As explained above, the internet does not have to play by the same rules. You get a warning, you tick a box you watch the feed. If the PC thing played a part you wouldn't even get the 20 minutes you do on a Friday.
Cost is not the issue
What it comes down to is editorial control and nothing more. As explained above, the internet does not have to play by the same rules. You get a warning, you tick a box you watch the feed. If the PC thing played a part you wouldn't even get the 20 minutes you do on a Friday.
Originally Posted by Leathertrouser2:
“I am not sure how this "PC brigade" thing came to surface. If you followed "IT has been confirmed...live feed has been axed part...13" Ben Frow has stated the following:
Cost is not the issue
What it comes down to is editorial control and nothing more. As explained above, the internet does not have to play by the same rules. You get a warning, you tick a box you watch the feed. If the PC thing played a part you wouldn't even get the 20 minutes you do on a Friday.”
“I am not sure how this "PC brigade" thing came to surface. If you followed "IT has been confirmed...live feed has been axed part...13" Ben Frow has stated the following:
Cost is not the issue
What it comes down to is editorial control and nothing more. As explained above, the internet does not have to play by the same rules. You get a warning, you tick a box you watch the feed. If the PC thing played a part you wouldn't even get the 20 minutes you do on a Friday.”
Originally Posted by Irishdave:
“I have to agree. What was the point of watching a padded out 90 minutes to just end when it all kicks off? Beyond stupidity. This current production team are absolute morons!!”
“I have to agree. What was the point of watching a padded out 90 minutes to just end when it all kicks off? Beyond stupidity. This current production team are absolute morons!!”
Totally agree.
Originally Posted by Random42:
“I didn't see her comment as anything other than a "Bloody hell ! Where's live feed when you need it ?!" kind of thing. As I'm sure most fans were thinking the same thing.
I'm surprised to read on here that it's been construed as an insult.”
“I didn't see her comment as anything other than a "Bloody hell ! Where's live feed when you need it ?!" kind of thing. As I'm sure most fans were thinking the same thing.
I'm surprised to read on here that it's been construed as an insult.”
Yes, this ^^^^
Originally Posted by Leathertrouser2:
“I am not sure how this "PC brigade" thing came to surface. If you followed "IT has been confirmed...live feed has been axed part...13" Ben Frow has stated the following:
Cost is not the issue
What it comes down to is editorial control and nothing more. As explained above, the internet does not have to play by the same rules. You get a warning, you tick a box you watch the feed. If the PC thing played a part you wouldn't even get the 20 minutes you do on a Friday.”
“I am not sure how this "PC brigade" thing came to surface. If you followed "IT has been confirmed...live feed has been axed part...13" Ben Frow has stated the following:
Cost is not the issue
What it comes down to is editorial control and nothing more. As explained above, the internet does not have to play by the same rules. You get a warning, you tick a box you watch the feed. If the PC thing played a part you wouldn't even get the 20 minutes you do on a Friday.”
What a ridiculous, condascending comment.
Originally Posted by Bless You:
“I think she actually meant it.”
“I think she actually meant it.”
Which way?
As a dig at the viewers
or
As a message to them upstairs
Originally Posted by Barracute:
“Which way?
As a dig at the viewers
or
As a message to them upstairs”
“Which way?
As a dig at the viewers
or
As a message to them upstairs”
As a message to upstairs, as a few have said I'm not sure how anyone who was watching could have interpreted it any other way.
I also think this is her last year perhaps she wants to go saying what she thinks.
It was astonishing last night that BB set it up and it finished to show an ABBA documentary which must have been on for the 30th time. Astonishing, stupid, pathetic, just plain wrong, big boos for C5, truly Britain's worst television channel.
Originally Posted by DanManF1:
“Was Emma taking the piss there, or will the C5 producers be quite angry with that?
”
“Was Emma taking the piss there, or will the C5 producers be quite angry with that?
”
I can imagine the producers not being too happy about that comment. Emma has always been the kind of person to speak before thinking though. Just another dim moment from her.
Originally Posted by PaleHorse:
“That felt like a massive middle finger to the viewers. It's like they genuinely hate the audience.”
“That felt like a massive middle finger to the viewers.
It's like they genuinely hate the audience.”
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Lol, even Emma's making fun of the show's viewers.”
“Lol, even Emma's making fun of the show's viewers.
”
I get the opposite impression. Emma is first and foremost a BB fan, she would prefer for BB to have live feed.
Originally Posted by Cloudy2:
“As a message to upstairs, as a few have said I'm not sure how anyone who was watching could have interpreted it any other way.
I also think this is her last year perhaps she wants to go saying what she thinks.
It was astonishing last night that BB set it up and it finished to show an ABBA documentary which must have been on for the 30th time. Astonishing, stupid, pathetic, just plain wrong, big boos for C5, truly Britain's worst television channel.”
“As a message to upstairs, as a few have said I'm not sure how anyone who was watching could have interpreted it any other way.
I also think this is her last year perhaps she wants to go saying what she thinks.
It was astonishing last night that BB set it up and it finished to show an ABBA documentary which must have been on for the 30th time. Astonishing, stupid, pathetic, just plain wrong, big boos for C5, truly Britain's worst television channel.”
Well i hope so !
the real reason we BB producers don't want us to have live feed is because they can cover up their manipulation & edit the hour show how they like so they can try to manipulate the viewers (not that hard) into voting how they want
Originally Posted by SillyBillyGoat:
“I get the opposite impression. Emma is first and foremost a BB fan, she would prefer for BB to have live feed.”
“I get the opposite impression. Emma is first and foremost a BB fan, she would prefer for BB to have live feed.”
I'm not saying that's how she intended it, I'm just saying that, after 85 minutes or so of clapped out, irrelevant past HMs talking about what could happen, what actually did happen (or rather, how much they showed of it) was criminal, and her saying that, it felt like some sort of poisonous little cherry atop a pie of insolence and audaciousness.
Originally Posted by SillyBillyGoat:
“I get the opposite impression. Emma is first and foremost a BB fan, she would prefer for BB to have live feed.”
“I get the opposite impression. Emma is first and foremost a BB fan, she would prefer for BB to have live feed.”
This exactly, she was dying to see what was going to happen.
Originally Posted by SillyBillyGoat:
“I get the opposite impression. Emma is first and foremost a BB fan, she would prefer for BB to have live feed.”
“I get the opposite impression. Emma is first and foremost a BB fan, she would prefer for BB to have live feed.”
No true Big Brother fan would present it in it's current state unless they were being paid loads and she's currently one of the UK's most in demand presenters she's obviously only there for the money.
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