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Old 15-06-2015, 13:48
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So Ofcom have started looking into the winner, and to see if viewer's have been mislead. I hope they find this the case, and everyone get's the voting money back and Jules is stripped of the win.
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Old 15-06-2015, 14:03
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You need to move on and let this go, she won, get over it. You probably didn't even vote. Who did you want to win? Who ever it was didn't, so move on, and get over it.
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Old 15-06-2015, 23:26
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You need to move on and let this go, she won, get over it. You probably didn't even vote. Who did you want to win? Who ever it was didn't, so move on, and get over it.
Just to reiterate, this is a new development and Ofcom are taking this matter to the next stage.

I don't expect them to impose any fine - possibly ITV might be forced to offer a refund for those who wish it - but it at least proves what dozens of crazy posters on here have been blind to, that there *is* something worth investigating.

So please no more "get a life", "move on", "you weren't misled" etc etc
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Old 15-06-2015, 23:39
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Why should we move on when Ofcom feel there is something to be investigated?
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Old 15-06-2015, 23:44
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Ridiculous. I hope all those people who complained think about the stress they are causing this poor woman now.
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Old 16-06-2015, 00:06
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Sad times do people still care for this lol
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Old 16-06-2015, 00:18
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Ridiculous. I hope all those people who complained think about the stress they are causing this poor woman now.
That will be an added pleasure for some of them.
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Old 16-06-2015, 01:14
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Ridiculous. I hope all those people who complained think about the stress they are causing this poor woman now.
Save the sob stories for the show!

She was complicit in the deception. If she doesn't like it, she should have done something about it.

That is fact and no excuse or sod story will change that.

What a shame you can't feel sorry for the other acts who lost out because of this con.
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Old 16-06-2015, 06:57
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Ridiculous. I hope all those people who complained think about the stress they are causing this poor woman now.
poor woman, she won a huge amount of money with a show that pulls the wool over the public to vote for her. I would feel sorry for her if she gave said sorry, I made a mistake and pulled out from winning.
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Old 16-06-2015, 15:28
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Save the sob stories for the show!

She was complicit in the deception. If she doesn't like it, she should have done something about it.

That is fact and no excuse or sod story will change that.

What a shame you can't feel sorry for the other acts who lost out because of this con.
There. Was. No. Con.
There was no deception. It was part of the act.
She had used a second dog before as well but no-one complained then.
The act was telling a story and for the rope trick, Chase was much more comfortable doing it then Matisse. It's called creative License.



poor woman, she won a huge amount of money with a show that pulls the wool over the public to vote for her. I would feel sorry for her if she gave said sorry, I made a mistake and pulled out from winning.
So what that she got a monetary reward? She doesn't deserve this because people got disgruntled. And as I stated in quoting the above person, the act was telling a story where the narrative flow included a rope escape and Chase, as part of her act! was the dog more comfortable in the role. Why should she say sorry? She did nothing wrong. The Producers titled her act, have a go at them.
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Old 16-06-2015, 16:34
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1.) I'd be surprised if it's 1,150 VERIFIED unique complaints. Likely it's 50 people writing, emailing or calling in over and over. Because some people are just imbalanced.

2.) Even if it were 1,150 people, that's NOTHING, especially over the course of many weeks after the press has pounded this to death. Do some calculations compared against the UK population, okay? Something like 64.8 million, I believe. 1150 is 0.00168%. Do I have to explain why taking the opinion of 0.00168% of the population as a mandate is ludicrous?

3.) Even if they took action, what ever gives anyone the idea that SHE'D be penalised? The SHOW would be. In no sane or halfway legal world could she be penalised for filling every contractual condition placed in front of her. If the conditions were unfair to other contestants? The remedy for that is placed at the feet of the people who implemented those conditions--the producers.

4.) Even a vague statement by OFCOM saying they are investigating doesn't mean anything is actually being done. It's a bureaucracy. They of course have a file for this due to even ONE complaint but that doesn't mean action has to follow.

Just insane that people are still banging on about this. Dotty. If OFCOM did more than simply take complaints and noncommittally shake their heads in mock-agreement, they'd be irresponsible idiots wasting public money.
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Old 16-06-2015, 20:25
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...amazed by the moral blindness of dog lovers.
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Old 16-06-2015, 22:58
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...amazed by the moral blindness of dog lovers.
I'm amazed by the pure viciousness of those who felt the need to demonise Jules for effectively nothing but sour grapes.
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Old 16-06-2015, 23:04
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Not at all surprised to see Old Endeavour and myscimitar involved in this thread, sad trolls that they are.
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Old 16-06-2015, 23:22
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This is really old news, what is it with these trolls, just let it go.
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Old 16-06-2015, 23:31
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1.) I'd be surprised if it's 1,150 VERIFIED unique complaints. Likely it's 50 people writing, emailing or calling in over and over. Because some people are just imbalanced.

2.) Even if it were 1,150 people, that's NOTHING, especially over the course of many weeks after the press has pounded this to death. Do some calculations compared against the UK population, okay? Something like 64.8 million, I believe. 1150 is 0.00168%. Do I have to explain why taking the opinion of 0.00168% of the population as a mandate is ludicrous?

3.) Even if they took action, what ever gives anyone the idea that SHE'D be penalised? The SHOW would be. In no sane or halfway legal world could she be penalised for filling every contractual condition placed in front of her. If the conditions were unfair to other contestants? The remedy for that is placed at the feet of the people who implemented those conditions--the producers.

4.) Even a vague statement by OFCOM saying they are investigating doesn't mean anything is actually being done. It's a bureaucracy. They of course have a file for this due to even ONE complaint but that doesn't mean action has to follow.

Just insane that people are still banging on about this. Dotty. If OFCOM did more than simply take complaints and noncommittally shake their heads in mock-agreement, they'd be irresponsible idiots wasting public money.

Ofcom receive complaints all day every day about shows. They investigate very few. This one merits investigation, which is the important bit.

One point I agree with on - the act herself won't be censured or criticized in anyway. If fault is found, Syco/Fremantle will carry the can. So no need to worry there.

Now let's just wait and see what they rule. We could be in for quite a wait.
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Old 16-06-2015, 23:36
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This is great. The slavering mob is getting close to securing a prize scalp. We will not be denied. Heads must roll, figuratively. Only then will we be placated. The gathering storm. The gadarene swine. The game's afoot.
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Old 17-06-2015, 03:40
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Someone should make a sitcom about working at Ofcom. You could play it with them as put on saps having to listen to endless petty complaints. Or you could play it with them as tin pot bureaucrats poking their noses into everything. Or both, with the bosses one way and the phone reps the other.
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Old 17-06-2015, 06:55
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1.) I'd be surprised if it's 1,150 VERIFIED unique complaints. Likely it's 50 people writing, emailing or calling in over and over. Because some people are just imbalanced.

2.) Even if it were 1,150 people, that's NOTHING, especially over the course of many weeks after the press has pounded this to death. Do some calculations compared against the UK population, okay? Something like 64.8 million, I believe. 1150 is 0.00168%. Do I have to explain why taking the opinion of 0.00168% of the population as a mandate is ludicrous?

3.) Even if they took action, what ever gives anyone the idea that SHE'D be penalised? The SHOW would be. In no sane or halfway legal world could she be penalised for filling every contractual condition placed in front of her. If the conditions were unfair to other contestants? The remedy for that is placed at the feet of the people who implemented those conditions--the producers.

4.) Even a vague statement by OFCOM saying they are investigating doesn't mean anything is actually being done. It's a bureaucracy. They of course have a file for this due to even ONE complaint but that doesn't mean action has to follow.

Just insane that people are still banging on about this. Dotty. If OFCOM did more than simply take complaints and noncommittally shake their heads in mock-agreement, they'd be irresponsible idiots wasting public money.
Even if one person felt they voted and paid to do so on a scam, they Ofcom have to look into it. Or should this idea that only a few people complained then it should be forgotten. Maybe on that logic police should do they same and ignore petty crimes.
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Old 17-06-2015, 14:23
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It has nothing to do with the veracity of the accusations. If enough people complain, no matter how spurious their complaint, then OFCOM are bound to complain. So I would not read too much into it.
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Old 17-06-2015, 15:31
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I don't watch these shows so I can't say much about this matter, but didn't the change-over from one dog to the other take place out of sight behind a door or something? That indicates to me that she may have been trying to bamboozle the audience. Surely if the owner had been upfront about it (ie changing the dogs in full view) there would not be a case to answer?
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Old 17-06-2015, 15:38
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I don't watch these shows so I can't say much about this matter, but didn't the change-over from one dog to the other take place out of sight behind a door or something? That indicates to me that she may have been trying to bamboozle the audience. Surely if the owner had been upfront about it (ie changing the dogs in full view) there would not be a case to answer?
It was in the process of telling a story. The story would not seem fluid if she blatantly swapped dogs in front of the audience. It's like if a Magician' if they showed how a trick was done during the trick. The act itself was fair as it was. The complaints might have merit based on the fact there was no reveal of the third dog afterwards but that's not on Jules that's on the Producers.
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Old 17-06-2015, 16:12
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Surely if the owner had been upfront about it (ie changing the dogs in full view) there would not be a case to answer?
Look, I know Harrison Ford didn't really hang off the back of trucks and swing on vines onto planes as Indiana Jones, but it would have kind of ruined the moment to have the stuntman occupy the screen at the same time during the switch.
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Old 17-06-2015, 16:23
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Look, I know Harrison Ford didn't really hang off the back of trucks and swing on vines onto planes as Indiana Jones, but it would have kind of ruined the moment to have the stuntman occupy the screen at the same time during the switch.
But she should have brought it on after as she did in the semi
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Old 17-06-2015, 16:39
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Wat was the act called? If it was just 'somebody and her dog', then it sounds a bit strange that there were other dogs filling in to do some of the more difficult stuff. If it was just 'A Dog Act' then there'd be no complaint.
Just a reminder that I didn't see this act and have only just taken an interest.
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