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Nikki turns evil and lies to Jack making him believe he's favourite
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Cornchips
15-06-2015
Originally Posted by Marc_Johnson:
“What a stupid idea, he knows he's popular, this tells him nothing new.

Would have been far better to say he's not and spin him out.

He will just coast through the week now.

They really are making a mess of this.”

The idea is for him to coast in blissful ignorance.

I can't believe they believe anything of what they are told tbh. I think I would be somewhat suspicious. However this lot are so desperate to be loved and care so much about how they look on the outside maybe it's not surprising they latch onto any little tidbit. Nikki told at least four people that I heard last night that they were her favourite.
Alrightmate
15-06-2015
Originally Posted by Marc_Johnson:
“What a stupid idea, he knows he's popular, this tells him nothing new.

Would have been far better to say he's not and spin him out.

He will just coast through the week now.

They really are making a mess of this.”

That's the point, to ensure that he keeps thinking that and is even more complacent.
A few weeks since week 1, he may wonder if he's still as popular as he was in week 1. This trick should ensure that he's reassured that nothing has changed, and that he may have even increased his support.

If they tell him that he's not popular anymore that gives him the information he needs to adjust his game.
Thank God the crowd on Friday didn't start chanting 'Get Jack out' as some on here were urging them to do. That would have blown it.

Therefore I don't think they've made a mess of it at all. Conversely this is probably the best use I've seen from housemates who've been in a secret room since they started doing them. They've used it to their advantage in quite a creative way.
Cornish Girl
15-06-2015
What a truly nasty thing to do to someone. I don't see how any one with an ounce of decency could think this is anything but cruel.
Alrightmate
15-06-2015
Originally Posted by prometheusdeb:
“Personally, I'd have rather seen his reaction to being told the truth - "everybody thinks you're a boring, miserable, moaning slob. You should have taken the car and left in week one".”

If they did that then Jack would change into the most angelic housemate you've ever seen....and possibly even actually manage to win.
Wainy84
15-06-2015
Originally Posted by Cornish Girl:
“What a truly nasty thing to do to someone. I don't see how any one with an ounce of decency could think this is anything but cruel.”

It's a game show BB do mess with there heads.
They sign up for BB so I don't have any sympathy. As they should know BB can be evil at times.
Marc_Johnson
15-06-2015
Originally Posted by Cornchips:
“The idea is for him to coast in blissful ignorance.

I can't believe they believe anything of what they are told tbh. I think I would be somewhat suspicious. However this lot are so desperate to be loved and care so much about how they look on the outside maybe it's not surprising they latch onto any little tidbit. Nikki told at least four people that I heard last night that they were her favourite.”

That won't work though, it will have the opposite effect, chances are he will be up this week and survive because of Harry (mistake 1) than they will all be out on Fri, the house will think he's still popular and won't nominate him as it will be a waste.

It doesn't matter what he thinks or does, if the others don't put him up he stands a chance of winning, if he was melting down the housemates would have a reason to turn against him and put him up.
Alrightmate
15-06-2015
Originally Posted by Cornish Girl:
“What a truly nasty thing to do to someone. I don't see how any one with an ounce of decency could think this is anything but cruel.”

It is sort of cruel, but I admit that it's quite funny too.
It's one of those silly pranks you do but you can't help yourself because you're giggling away without a care for any consequences.

BB themselves are often much crueler.
Groundhogal
15-06-2015
I've never liked Jack since day 1 but this isn't even slightly amusing. It feels like Nikki only has to fart and some people are hailing her as a comedy genius.
SillyBillyGoat
15-06-2015
"Princess" Nikki being nasty and spiteful, I'm utterly shocked.
Alrightmate
15-06-2015
I think people seem to be forgetting what Jack has been like with his little smear campaigns against other housemates to get them nominated.
Marc has seen him acting like the big man giving a toast to him being 'evicted', so I can understand why the bunker housemates 'know what they have to do'.

It is a game, Jack hasn't been playing a very nice game so it's no surprise that others have seen what he's like and are playing back.
hihopes
15-06-2015
Hilarious! It's cringeworthy, sure. But Jack's ego is so huge he's asking for it. Surely if most people were told they had 200K twitter followers from BB airtime, they'd smell a rat. He's deluded though. Go Nikki!!
IsThisHappiness
15-06-2015
Absolutely ****ing brilliant! hahaha!
bluegroper
15-06-2015
Originally Posted by SillyBillyGoat:
“"Princess" Nikki being nasty and spiteful, I'm utterly shocked.”

Lighten up, she is just winding them up, something that use to happen on BB before everyone took it so seriously!
SillyBillyGoat
15-06-2015
Originally Posted by bluegroper:
“Lighten up, she is just winding them up, something that use to happen on BB before everyone took it so seriously!”

Thanks for the tip but I don't need to "lighten up", thanks sweetheart. Nikki was spiteful in BB7, and she's seemingly back to it now.

I don't subscribe to the idea that everything she does is brilliant just because it's Nikki. She can be very funny, but she can also be very malicious.

I've no doubt that people wouldn't be celebrating this as much if Nikki's and Jack's roles were taken by a less popular / more popular housemate respectively.
Cornchips
15-06-2015
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“That's the point, to ensure that he keeps thinking that and is even more complacent.
A few weeks since week 1, he may wonder if he's still as popular as he was in week 1. This trick should ensure that he's reassured that nothing has changed, and that he may have even increased his support.

If they tell him that he's not popular anymore that gives him the information he needs to adjust his game.
Thank God the crowd on Friday didn't start chanting 'Get Jack out' as some on here were urging them to do. That would have blown it.

Therefore I don't think they've made a mess of it at all. Conversely this is probably the best use I've seen from housemates who've been in a secret room since they started doing them. They've used it to their advantage in quite a creative way.”

They do have the advantage of outside knowledge though. Most secret HMs don't have that. I do wonder though why in the past they have never pretended that they did have the outside knowledge.
Warp
15-06-2015
Keep having to remind myself that the days of no outside interference are gone.
sorcha_healy27
15-06-2015
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“I think people seem to be forgetting what Jack has been like with his little smear campaigns against other housemates to get them nominated.
Marc has seen him acting like the big man giving a toast to him being 'evicted', so I can understand why the bunker housemates 'know what they have to do'.

It is a game, Jack hasn't been playing a very nice game so it's no surprise that others have seen what he's like and are playing back.”

Agreed. Also if it was jack entering from the bunker he would have no compunction about playing the game and doing it to whoever it was.
bluegroper
15-06-2015
Originally Posted by SillyBillyGoat:
“Thanks for the tip but I don't need to "lighten up", thanks sweetheart. Nikki was spiteful in BB7, and she's seemingly back to it now.

I don't subscribe to the idea that everything she does is brilliant just because it's Nikki. She can be very funny, but she can also be very malicious.

I've no doubt that people wouldn't be celebrating this as much if Nikki's and Jack's roles were taken by a less popular / more popular housemate respectively.”

In BB7 everyone wound everyone up, Nikki was mostly the recipient from every HM and BB. You should know everyone gets wound up on BB its a game, don't you know!
paralax
15-06-2015
What a lousy thing to do, why would she try to humiliate him.
Cornish Girl
15-06-2015
Originally Posted by Wainy84:
“It's a game show BB do mess with there heads.
They sign up for BB so I don't have any sympathy. As they should know BB can be evil at times.”

This isn't Big Brother being nasty. You don't sign up for house visitors to downright lie to you for their own entertainment.
bluegroper
15-06-2015
Originally Posted by Cornish Girl:
“This isn't Big Brother being nasty. You don't sign up for house visitors to downright lie to you for their own entertainment.”

Yes they Can t is in the rules and the last rule is:-

THE MOST IMPORTANT RULE OF ALL: Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time.!

That's what they sign up for!
Barracute
15-06-2015
Originally Posted by SillyBillyGoat:
“Thanks for the tip but I don't need to "lighten up", thanks sweetheart. Nikki was spiteful in BB7, and she's seemingly back to it now.

I don't subscribe to the idea that everything she does is brilliant just because it's Nikki. She can be very funny, but she can also be very malicious.

I've no doubt that people wouldn't be celebrating this as much if Nikki's and Jack's roles were taken by a less popular / more popular housemate respectively.”

You can play that both ways, if it wasn't Nikki but someone else, people would love it, but because they don't like Nikki they wont give credit where its due.
Pro_Sniper
15-06-2015
I doubt this was Nikki's idea, as she'd have been far more likely to give the game away and told him he was a self-delusional joke who had very little chance of winning. She's obviously been steered by Mark or BB who clearly want Pieface to continue believing he's "a good thing" and go on embarrassing himself by trying to appear a nice big jolly, humble being..as he spits out drivel like: "I'm just doing it for the little guy"

No Jack, you're not "doing it for the little guy", you're doing it for nobody but your big self-centred, greedy, degenerate self.
Scarlett Berry
15-06-2015
Originally Posted by Barracute:
“You can play that both ways, if it wasn't Nikki but someone else, people would love it, but because they don't like Nikki they wont give credit where its due.”

You give someone credit for doing something kind and worthwhile, not being a spiteful, cruel muppett.
Johnp_
15-06-2015
If Jack is supposed to already think he's going to win, why do they have to tell him all these exaggerated lies?
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