It's a shame it's come to this but it has to appeal,to the lowest common denominator to survive.

Although it's impossible for big brother fans to take this sneery superior attitude to these shows anymore if you support what we are watching now

Never watched the other 2 shows you have mentioned.

BB never been the same since it left Channel 4.
For some reason I keep watching it. But i'm beginning to hope it goes to another channel to fetch the BB we all know and loved.

I agree, it's just another Towie/Geordie Shore and I can't watch BB anymore. I haven't finished the last 2 BBs because of this.

I honestly don't understand why they feel the need to copy the formats of these shows anyway? Because the truth is even at its lowest ratings (ie. now) BB still out rates all them shows anyway so what's the point?

The housemates were allowed to be more verbally aggressive when the show was on 4. I can't imagine there ever being a Fight Night now it's on Five.

I watched TOWIE for ten minutes once but my brain fused and my eyes started bleeding coupled with a panic attack searching for the remote to change channels............I've never dared to go back !

why i man

It's a long way from being like either of those shows. I would stop watching if it did because I hate those kind of shows. They aren't being fed lines to say in the diary room. All thoughts they share are their own and every argument is real. Fact is, Big Brother is still as real a reality show as you get. Producer manipulation to keep who they want in is another matter altogether.


That's not true. Every series post BB5, they have stepped in when things were getting heated. I remember them doing that even in BB7 with Sezer.

Yeah, that was on Channel 4.

You said the housemates were allowed to be more verbally aggressive when it was on Channel 4. I'm saying that wasn't the case for the later years of it being on Channel 4

Stepping in when a heated argument might come to blows doesn't mean that it wasn't allowed to be more aggressive.

Dancc should've crawled out of the woodwork by now with some extreme praise for Channel 5 and a little speech about how the show has evolved.

Big Brother is now exactly the same as those shows and it's where the rejects from those shows go when they don't get a part.

It's quite sad really because they're not good enough for shite like TOWIE so end up on Big Brother which is now the arsehole of television then end up getting evicted in some terrible twist and disappear into obscurity because the Big Brother and Channel 5 are a laughing stock to the media industry

I agree with the OP. I've mentioned before but I've been rewatching some of BB6 and it's astonishing how much time they spend just sitting around chatting - and how entertaining it is. I long for the days when housemates revealed their characters naturally.

Said the same on another Thread OP

BB is just a load of scripted Shite now and i'm past the point of caring about any of them in there

I've never watched TOWIE Geordie Shore etc and it's a shame BB has followed suit
I'm very close to the point of switching off for good as the shite they're churning out now is just getting worse with every H/L Show that passes

Apart from Joel, nobody is given a script.

Where's the roll eyes emoticon when you need it.

That is why I don't watch them, I don't like them, and if this type of programme is what the majority want, then it has to be OK, I will quite happily remain in the minority.

So many threads and posts saying the same thing. Entertaining discussion of lives lived ambitions and baggage collected, has been replaced by contrived conflict delivered by one dimensional fame hunters.

Evidenced by Marc, who, when he thought he had been evicted, revealed to Emma, a thoughtful caring soul who said he had respect for hms and had made many friends. This was totally opposite to his credo inside the house. Tell him he's back in and he reverts back to the loud, spiteful and offensive character he was obviously playing before. I, for one would have liked to have seen more of the Marc we glimpsed, not more of the same "pantomime part".

The public might as well audition hms based on a vt of the character they are offering to be and the part they want to play.

On Celebrity BB last year, I hoped to see the suburban side of Katie Hopkins. Where is the rehabilitated Helen, who had learned so much about herself by the end of the series. I think I want to be captivated by surprise, not fed the expected!

"I love acting. It is so much more real than life".
Oscar Wilde

Rosebud

Enjoy it for what it is, an entertainment show.

What else do people prefer to watch at 9 or 10 o'clock at night?

This is the attitude I expected - just have what someone else decides is entertainment.
What do I want at 9:00 - I want a programme that demands some effort from me, the audience. A diary of the day's events that I make judgements about. A diary that sometimes surprises me when hms don't act in a way I expected. A programme that pushes the hms physically and mentally - exposing their weaknesses and none team spirits.

BB was one show that demanded interaction from the audience. BB hms provided the content which the audience tried to make sense of based on our experience of ordinary people in stressful situations. We decided who was coping well and who deserved to stay longer.

Nicky and Brian are "legends" because they shared so much of their personal selves while on their respective shows. I know nothing more about Helen now, than I did at the series end last year. What I do know is what she "does" and I am not entertained by her vile comments and almighy ego.

Certainly a "Who is she!"