A mountain out of a molehill.
Harry and the washing
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Originally Posted by Astute:
“The part that Helen is going on about was that afterwards Harry was sitting on the couch bitching to everyone about the 46 yr old who can't do his own washing”
“The part that Helen is going on about was that afterwards Harry was sitting on the couch bitching to everyone about the 46 yr old who can't do his own washing”
Yeah, Helen was whining on and on as if Harry had killed somebody. Harry's allowed to have an opinion about a 46 year old man who can't do their washing.
Of course, Helen never bitched about anybody last year, did she?
Originally Posted by Gaz22:
“Yeah that's what I basically meant.
Why did she accept to do his though if she was going to bitch about it later? And why offer to do everyone elses afterwards? It doesn't make sense.”
“Yeah that's what I basically meant.
Why did she accept to do his though if she was going to bitch about it later? And why offer to do everyone elses afterwards? It doesn't make sense.”
Exactly and this is what Helen meant
Do the 'f''ing washing if you've offered and don't 'f'ing bitch about it as you did offer. Apologies for any offence caused by my Helen impersonation / defense
Originally Posted by KT_Dog:
“Hooray! I get to do another transcript!
Right here it is. This is the entire scene (minus the interjections in the bunker room). Its actually very short given all the fuss!
PIEFACE: I can’t… I can’t… I can’t… I can’t keep reassuring a 46 year old man, I think I’ve given up with it. Like, literally, I struggle to… I can see he’s made a positive change but I’m struggling to take care of a 46 year old man with everything. “I this” “I that” he keeps talking to me about the ****ing ninja thing. He won’t stop bringing it up.
HARRY: Jack, before I offered to do everybodies washing – the reason I offered to do everybodies washing was because he came in and he said, “Harry, can you do my washing for me please because I can’t do it.”
PIEFACE: (TUTS)
HARRY: And I don’t mind. I like doing everybodies washing. But the fact a 46 year old man who lives by himself is asking me to do it is very concerning. He actually sorted all his pile of washing, had it on his bed and said, “Harry do you mind? Can you do my washing for me? I can’t do it.”
CHLOE: Did you do it?
HARRY: Well yeah. That’s the reason why I went round and asked if everybody else wanted it doing.”
“Hooray! I get to do another transcript!
Right here it is. This is the entire scene (minus the interjections in the bunker room). Its actually very short given all the fuss!
PIEFACE: I can’t… I can’t… I can’t… I can’t keep reassuring a 46 year old man, I think I’ve given up with it. Like, literally, I struggle to… I can see he’s made a positive change but I’m struggling to take care of a 46 year old man with everything. “I this” “I that” he keeps talking to me about the ****ing ninja thing. He won’t stop bringing it up.
HARRY: Jack, before I offered to do everybodies washing – the reason I offered to do everybodies washing was because he came in and he said, “Harry, can you do my washing for me please because I can’t do it.”
PIEFACE: (TUTS)
HARRY: And I don’t mind. I like doing everybodies washing. But the fact a 46 year old man who lives by himself is asking me to do it is very concerning. He actually sorted all his pile of washing, had it on his bed and said, “Harry do you mind? Can you do my washing for me? I can’t do it.”
CHLOE: Did you do it?
HARRY: Well yeah. That’s the reason why I went round and asked if everybody else wanted it doing.”
Lets face it that would have been their reason for nominating him this week, just like they do on other nomination days, they pick on someone then discuss that persons flaws with the group.
Originally Posted by LH1:
“She's surprised that a 46 year old man had to ask her to do his washing because he said he couldn't do it. I'm also surprised that he doesn't know how to wash clothes at his age. Helen is vile - it's just a twisted excuse to justify Harry's nomination.”
“She's surprised that a 46 year old man had to ask her to do his washing because he said he couldn't do it. I'm also surprised that he doesn't know how to wash clothes at his age. Helen is vile - it's just a twisted excuse to justify Harry's nomination.”
Not really, had she worked in a Laundry she'd be washing clothes for any age, so why did she mention the age of the HM, as it wasn't necessary to do so!
Looks to me that Harry has age issues!
Originally Posted by Astute:
“The part that Helen is going on about was that afterwards Harry was sitting on the couch bitching to everyone about the 46 yr old who can't do his own washing”
“The part that Helen is going on about was that afterwards Harry was sitting on the couch bitching to everyone about the 46 yr old who can't do his own washing”
the complaint was something about doing the HANDwashing i thought. Like a comment about how could a 46 yr old man not know how to do it.
fill sink, add soap, swish clothes, hang clothes, simple!
Whatever the washing thing was Harry used it as a reason to join in the Simon bashing with the rest of them.
Just like the day before where they were all on the sofa's bashing Simon behind his back (that the bunker housemates also saw) and Harry was at the forefront of it then aswell.
The Simon bashing & isolation is ok it seems, but if done to poor saint Harry it's the crime of the century
Just like the day before where they were all on the sofa's bashing Simon behind his back (that the bunker housemates also saw) and Harry was at the forefront of it then aswell.
The Simon bashing & isolation is ok it seems, but if done to poor saint Harry it's the crime of the century
Originally Posted by loopyluna:
“Lets face it that would have been their reason for nominating him this week, just like they do on other nomination days, they pick on someone then discuss that persons flaws with the group.”
“Lets face it that would have been their reason for nominating him this week, just like they do on other nomination days, they pick on someone then discuss that persons flaws with the group.”
Exactly. They were lining Simon up to be their next target & encouraging others to do the same by giving petty reasons of why he's so terrible...
How is what they were doing to Simon any different to the bunker housemates nominating Harry?
This poor Harry nonsense is hilarious. She's playing the victim & playing everyone for suckers
Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“the complaint was something about doing the HANDwashing i thought. Like a comment about how could a 46 yr old man not know how to do it.
fill sink, add soap, swish clothes, hang clothes, simple!”
“the complaint was something about doing the HANDwashing i thought. Like a comment about how could a 46 yr old man not know how to do it.
fill sink, add soap, swish clothes, hang clothes, simple!”
It would all depend if his mum did all the washing, or the machine did, when all you have to do is put washing into the machine, add power then press some knobs. Not everyone would know how to wash clothes, if they've never had to do it before.
I think what really happened, was that Simon saw her doing the washing and just decided to ask her if she'd do his too, and she came out with all that age stuff, yet she didn't question the ages of the others!
If you ever came across someone like Harry who thinks age first, then you'd tell her to piss off.
Originally Posted by ultros:
“Whatever the washing thing was Harry used it as a reason to join in the Simon bashing with the rest of them.
Just like the day before where they were all on the sofa's bashing Simon behind his back (that the bunker housemates also saw) and Harry was at the forefront of it then aswell.
The Simon bashing & isolation is ok it seems, but if done to poor saint Harry it's the crime of the century”
“Whatever the washing thing was Harry used it as a reason to join in the Simon bashing with the rest of them.
Just like the day before where they were all on the sofa's bashing Simon behind his back (that the bunker housemates also saw) and Harry was at the forefront of it then aswell.
The Simon bashing & isolation is ok it seems, but if done to poor saint Harry it's the crime of the century
”
Its edited, so you don't know Harry led anything ,
Since when has Harry joined tne others doing anything? She made a valid point about Simon, the others went on to slate Simon after.
Originally Posted by jack_blair:
“Its edited, so you don't know Harry led anything ,
Since when has Harry joined tne others doing anything? She made a valid point about Simon, the others went on to slate Simon after.”
“Its edited, so you don't know Harry led anything ,
Since when has Harry joined tne others doing anything? She made a valid point about Simon, the others went on to slate Simon after.”
But she didn't make a valid point re Simon, for surely when she said she washed for everyone, Simon was part of that everyone wasn't he!
Originally Posted by Dix:
“But she didn't make a valid point re Simon, for surely when she said she washed for everyone, Simon was part of that everyone wasn't he!”
“But she didn't make a valid point re Simon, for surely when she said she washed for everyone, Simon was part of that everyone wasn't he!”
She did his washing. Not going through this again. It was such a silly point for Helen to pick on anyway after all the bitching the others did.
These are the essential matters: Simon said that he didn't know how to wash and asked Harry if she'd wash for him. Harry agreed and went on to offer to wash for everyone else.
Later, after hearing Jack and others bitch about all things Simon Harry joined in with saying how she only washed for everyone because a 46 year old Simon asked her to wash for him and she underlined her belittling of Simon by saying how come a 46 year old man doesn't know how to wash.
Harry bitched her little cotton socks off That is what happened.
Later, after hearing Jack and others bitch about all things Simon Harry joined in with saying how she only washed for everyone because a 46 year old Simon asked her to wash for him and she underlined her belittling of Simon by saying how come a 46 year old man doesn't know how to wash.
Harry bitched her little cotton socks off
That is what happened.
Originally Posted by Gaz22:
“The washing thing confused me. Basically it went like this; Harry was doing her own washing and Simon asked her to do his. She agreed but then decided she'd offer the whole house as well. Right? So after she does Simon's washing, and the house's, she brings it up later in a group to bitch about Simon. Saying a 46 year old man should do his own. Have I got it straight?
”
“The washing thing confused me. Basically it went like this; Harry was doing her own washing and Simon asked her to do his. She agreed but then decided she'd offer the whole house as well. Right? So after she does Simon's washing, and the house's, she brings it up later in a group to bitch about Simon. Saying a 46 year old man should do his own. Have I got it straight?
”
NOPE you dont.
quote ... harry saying a 46 yr old man should KNOW how to do his own.
Simon asked her to do it because he didnt know HOW or so claimed
Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“NOPE you dont.
quote ... harry saying a 46 yr old man should KNOW how to do his own.
Simon asked her to do it because he didnt know HOW or so claimed”
“NOPE you dont.
quote ... harry saying a 46 yr old man should KNOW how to do his own.
Simon asked her to do it because he didnt know HOW or so claimed”
That's what I heard, unbelievable isn't it?
Regardless of if she did it or in what order it was asked she still had issues with him being classed as a member of 'everyone' and clearly his age. So it still reflects badly on the girl, as does the fact she belittled him again in front of a group of people. She certainly stokes the fire in regards to turning the house against the other 'newbies'.
Fair enough to mention it from Harry I reckon. The age thing is relevant as it is less surprising if someone younger/still living at home does not know how to do this 'washing' thing.
Anyway, seems like bs from Simon & he just wanted someone who would say yes to do his washing for him. If you stood someone in front of a sink with running water and washing powder, how on earth could they not work out what to do?
Anyway, seems like bs from Simon & he just wanted someone who would say yes to do his washing for him. If you stood someone in front of a sink with running water and washing powder, how on earth could they not work out what to do?
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“So why didnt she just say "no do your own" cos that is exactly what she wanted to say. She stood at the sink while Helen was telling Danny what she said, now if she wasnt lying why didnt she go over to Helen and call her a liar, cos she knew Helen was speaking the truth.
As for a 46 yr old doing their own washing in there to please you, wellim gonna lmao at that.”
“So why didnt she just say "no do your own" cos that is exactly what she wanted to say. She stood at the sink while Helen was telling Danny what she said, now if she wasnt lying why didnt she go over to Helen and call her a liar, cos she knew Helen was speaking the truth.
As for a 46 yr old doing their own washing in there to please you, wellim gonna lmao at that.
”
Call that BB legend a liar? Didn't you see the way she treated people who dared to stand up for themselves last year? I think Harry was brave to stick up for herself against someone as flippantly sexist and hostile as Marc, but I don't think she's stupid enough to get into a spat with Helen - even though Helen had clearly got things wrong.
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“These are the essential matters: Simon said that he didn't know how to wash and asked Harry if she'd wash for him. Harry agreed and went on to offer to wash for everyone else.
Later, after hearing Jack and others bitch about all things Simon Harry joined in with saying how she only washed for everyone because a 46 year old Simon asked her to wash for him and she underlined her belittling of Simon by saying how come a 46 year old man doesn't know how to wash.
Harry bitched her little cotton socks off That is what happened.”
“These are the essential matters: Simon said that he didn't know how to wash and asked Harry if she'd wash for him. Harry agreed and went on to offer to wash for everyone else.
Later, after hearing Jack and others bitch about all things Simon Harry joined in with saying how she only washed for everyone because a 46 year old Simon asked her to wash for him and she underlined her belittling of Simon by saying how come a 46 year old man doesn't know how to wash.
Harry bitched her little cotton socks off
That is what happened.”
Harry was stating something most would say as Simon's 46 (plus) not being able to do washing fgs !
I see you skim over, but mention the other HMs who started bitching about Simon, ---we even saw Jack doing it in HL show ! Selective much.
Harry is guilty of being casually ageist though, like many people are .. why on earth should a 46 year old be more expected to do his own washing than someone in their 20s?! .. it makes no sense.
Originally Posted by Nicho:
“Harry is guilty of being casually ageist though, like many people are .. why on earth should a 46 year old be more expected to do his own washing than someone in their 20s?! .. it makes no sense.”
“Harry is guilty of being casually ageist though, like many people are .. why on earth should a 46 year old be more expected to do his own washing than someone in their 20s?! .. it makes no sense.”
I disagree, many haven't even used a washing machine by time they leave home or go to uni , let alone wash by hand,
and with life experiences I guess by 46 many would think you would know how to ,,even if you've not done it before.!
It was a throw away comment by Harry and she even said it was a poor choice of words, but I imagine Harry's looked after herself from fairly young age
-- so by Simon being nearly 50 I expect she thought Simon would be able to and know how to wash clothes, understandable.
. and they were all bitching about Simon , we heard Jack... As they have since he went in.
I think Helen made too much of it, and even Chloe said that Helen must have heard the
' end' of the conversation.
Originally Posted by loopyluna:
“Lets face it that would have been their reason for nominating him this week, just like they do on other nomination days, they pick on someone then discuss that persons flaws with the group.”
“Lets face it that would have been their reason for nominating him this week, just like they do on other nomination days, they pick on someone then discuss that persons flaws with the group.”
Exactly this .
It's their way of " doing what you gotta do" .
And certain Hms have been at this for a long time now .
Originally Posted by dialectic:
“I think so many people have such an irrational hatred for Harry, who, as yet, has not done anything that wrong. Many even want to put Simon out there as some innocent 'victim' with Harry as his tormentor
I can only conclude that they believe everything Marc says i.e. 'Simon's good and Harry's bad'
Here is an early task of Simon trying to manipulate someone in to doing his washing and planning to be 'irritating' (his words)
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...-according-him”
“I think so many people have such an irrational hatred for Harry, who, as yet, has not done anything that wrong. Many even want to put Simon out there as some innocent 'victim' with Harry as his tormentor
I can only conclude that they believe everything Marc says i.e. 'Simon's good and Harry's bad'
Here is an early task of Simon trying to manipulate someone in to doing his washing and planning to be 'irritating' (his words)
http://bigbrother.channel5.com/day-2...-according-him”
I wonder if Simon is just lazy. He could easily have learnt in the house how to do his own washing by now.
Originally Posted by Nicho:
“Harry is guilty of being casually ageist though, like many people are .. why on earth should a 46 year old be more expected to do his own washing than someone in their 20s?! .. it makes no sense.”
“Harry is guilty of being casually ageist though, like many people are .. why on earth should a 46 year old be more expected to do his own washing than someone in their 20s?! .. it makes no sense.”
He wasn't expected to do his own washing, she just thought it was unusual that someone of his age hadn't learnt how to do something so basic before now.
Originally Posted by Sweet_Princess:
“Harry took the piss out of Simon though for how he couldnt do his own washing”
“Harry took the piss out of Simon though for how he couldnt do his own washing”
As if 90% on DS who were watching life feed and saw a a 46 year old man say he couldn't do washing wouldn't post about it.
Come on. Nearly everyone would. And if they didn't post they would have thought it.
She said it and I'm sure most people would have.
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“So why didnt she just say "no do your own" cos that is exactly what she wanted to say. She stood at the sink while Helen was telling Danny what she said, now if she wasnt lying why didnt she go over to Helen and call her a liar, cos she knew Helen was speaking the truth.
As for a 46 yr old doing their own washing in there to please you, wellim gonna lmao at that.”
“So why didnt she just say "no do your own" cos that is exactly what she wanted to say. She stood at the sink while Helen was telling Danny what she said, now if she wasnt lying why didnt she go over to Helen and call her a liar, cos she knew Helen was speaking the truth.
As for a 46 yr old doing their own washing in there to please you, wellim gonna lmao at that.
”
BIB Harry said that seeing that Hell-en hadnt even said hello to her, she didnt see the point of talking to her, but would talk to her later on if Hell-en wanted her to, everytime Harry tried to speak she was interupted.
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