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Harry isn't upset, she is sulking
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hisdogspot
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“prove it. Getting quiet, not joining in, separating from the nonsupportive backstabbing crowd, taking a time out alone , wanting some peace and quiet, not wanting to get involved in a screaming match with marq, now helen. ALL those things can make it look like harry is sulking.....when its more like trying to control her environment and preventing a blow up.

interpretation and conjecture can go both ways, i tend to see it as a positive move to isolate.”

Sulkily shrugging off her friends when they practically beg her not to isolate herself ? ... sulkily turning her back to BB in the diary room ?

Harry could sulk for England
aggielane
16-06-2015
Sulking like a child and when challenged pretends to be ill.
comedyfish
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by aggielane:
“Sulking like a child and when challenged pretends to be ill.”

Sure. Or doesn't want to talk about it and gives an excuse. Maybe that.

Not much to talk about if you pretend to have a stomach ache
jack_blair
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by aggielane:
“Sulking like a child and when challenged pretends to be ill.”

Very harsh, ---even Harry must have found that difficult when she was nommed like that and how Helen delivered her reasons it was very spitefully done , -- i don't blame Harry for retreating to the only place in that house to get away from them all. Horrible.

She didn't make a fuss , she said she had stomach upset as she's obviously proud , and I don't think she was sulking or upset , i think she just wanted to get away from them all.
Bacon&Eggs
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by docman:
“Just like she did in the task with Jade. When she doesn't get her own way, she sulks.”

This is a new theory i may well of gotten Harry all wrong so can i ask, What we're her intentions in the task with Jade? and can you explain why she felt she wasn't getting her way prior to her sulking?
JanisElizabeth
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Dangermoose:
“Two whole people .... I said elsewhere yesterday the rest of the house seem to like her yet she chooses to isolate herself, even though she's 'in with' the majority crowd. So I'm afraid I just don't buy this ostracizing thing. If she feels awkward and uncomfortable, that's her problem to deal with but I don't believe for one minute she's being ostracized in there. I think she knows exactly what she's doing.”

I agree and after seeing the H/L show last night she wasn't left on her own. Both Danny and Nick came over to her asking her to join in but she CHOSE to stay on her own saying that if the newbies wanted to speak to her they could come to her. Pathetic in my view.
jack_blair
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“I agree and after seeing the H/L show last night she wasn't left on her own. Both Danny and Nick came over to her asking her to join in but she CHOSE to stay on her own saying that if the newbies wanted to speak to her they could come to her. Pathetic in my view.”

Not surprised, doubt she felt like going to them after hearing a complete character assassination of herself delivered with such venom by Helen with the sidekicks nodding and grinning ! Would you fgs.
CHARMER1
16-06-2015
Didnt she do this a couple of weeks back where she stayed in her bed and ignored everyone......she comes across as someone who needs attention and hence she is in the job that she is, she has control.
JanisElizabeth
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by jack_blair:
“Not surprised, doubt she felt like going to them after hearing a complete character assassination of herself delivered with such venom by Helen with the sidekicks nodding and grinning ! Would you fgs.”

The point is yesterday people were saying that all her friends just ignored and abandoned her when the newbies came in. Clearly not true as at least two of them (and that's just what we were shown) were asking her to join in. Standing there all alone was her choice. Looking for the sympathy vote imo.
Dangermoose
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by jack_blair:
“Not surprised, doubt she felt like going to them after hearing a complete character assassination of herself delivered with such venom by Helen with the sidekicks nodding and grinning ! Would you fgs.”

They have all been subjected to some level of character assassination, if only during the endless face to face noms. Sam for one got especially slaughtered the first week she was up by almost everyone, not just one individual. So why wasn't she off sulking and being ostracized? If anything she did the complete opposite. Simon's another. Yes he's had his moments - lots of pretend tears and tantrums but again, he CHOSE not to be isolated. And then there's Marc who's been assassinated from all angles (irregardless of the reasons for and his own behaviour being the cause) yet he took it all in his stride and even knowing how the majority of the house felt about him, continued to integrate with them all.

None of the above are popular in the house.

Harry on the other hand has most of the house on her side so why on earth is she being painted to be a victim over ONE nomination?
Styker
16-06-2015
I agree that she is sulking and is acting like a fish out of water in general as she just doesn't know what to do and how to react to what has happened in her being outed.

I think the way she didn't go up to the ex house mates was a pretty good move for her as well as letting Nick come to her as well as she can say"Nick came back to me after they said what they said". Nick should bear in mind that he's not going to get what he's hoping for from Arry and if he does it will be some kind of favour!
Vesna
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“I agree and after seeing the H/L show last night she wasn't left on her own. Both Danny and Nick came over to her asking her to join in but she CHOSE to stay on her own saying that if the newbies wanted to speak to her they could come to her. Pathetic in my view.”

Because you would have confronted the 2 ex prostitutes and/or just ignored their dirty looks, vicious comments etc....

Like water off a duck's back.
jp761
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by jack_blair:
“Not surprised, doubt she felt like going to them after hearing a complete character assassination of herself delivered with such venom by Helen with the sidekicks nodding and grinning ! Would you fgs.”

Yeah this is very true. I don't know why some people can't see this one. If i'd just seen Helen on screen slate me big time and it was plainly clear Nikki hated me too. And of course she knows Marc hates her.

Why the hell would you go over to them you'd actually look like a lick arse after that. If you did go over.
jp761
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Dangermoose:
“They have all been subjected to some level of character assassination, if only during the endless face to face noms. Sam for one got especially slaughtered the first week she was up by almost everyone, not just one individual. So why wasn't she off sulking and being ostracized? If anything she did the complete opposite. Simon's another. Yes he's had his moments - lots of pretend tears and tantrums but again, he CHOSE not to be isolated. And then there's Marc who's been assassinated from all angles (irregardless of the reasons for and his own behaviour being the cause) yet he took it all in his stride and even knowing how the majority of the house felt about him, continued to integrate with them all.

None of the above are popular in the house.

Harry on the other hand has most of the house on her side so why on earth is she being painted to be a victim over ONE nomination?”

All of that is irrelevant. The situation the other night was totally different there were new people (except Marc of course) on a screen. Who clearly hated her why the hell would you go over to them and greet them. After watching Helen call you a liar and rip into you big time.
The natural instant human response right then is not to go over and say hi e.t.c. You'd actually look like a lick arse if you did go over. After all that was said about you.
Dangermoose
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by jp761:
“All of that is irrelevant. The situation the other night was totally different there were new people (except Marc of course) on a screen. Who clearly hated her why the hell would you go over to them and greet them. After watching Helen call you a liar and rip into you big time.
The natural instant human response right then is not to go over and say hi e.t.c. You'd actually look like a lick arse if you did go over. After all that was said about you.”

Well I think it is relevant due to her ongoing behaviour and her being labelled a victim, with everyone feeling sorry for her.
I've no issue with her not going over to greet them. That's up to her but for everyone jumping on the sympathy bandwagon, how she was abandoned by all her friends and ostracized when no such thing occurred. I was making an assessment of the whole situation in order to gain some perspective.
jp761
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Dangermoose:
“Well I think it is relevant due to her ongoing behaviour and her being labelled a victim, with everyone feeling sorry for her.
I've no issue with her not going over to greet them. That's up to her but for everyone jumping on the sympathy bandwagon, how she was abandoned by all her friends and ostracized when no such thing occurred. I was making an assessment of the whole situation in order to gain some perspective.”

I'm not sure all that many people feel sorry for her. Well i agree no one abandoned her as such I don't think that.
The others had to go over an greet them. I think she 'looked' ostracized on the face of it at first but no she wasn't ostracized. I get why she sat back for a while though. She got up and went over to Nick and Jade eventually.

But yep the specific situation i was talking about them on screen e.t.c. , my view it's right her not to go over to them after seeing that.
Instant reaction would be not to go over to them on that one she was right. And if she did you would hear Helen screaming lick arse for miles around!
cazziekay
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Dangermoose:
“They have all been subjected to some level of character assassination, if only during the endless face to face noms. Sam for one got especially slaughtered the first week she was up by almost everyone, not just one individual. So why wasn't she off sulking and being ostracized? If anything she did the complete opposite. Simon's another. Yes he's had his moments - lots of pretend tears and tantrums but again, he CHOSE not to be isolated. And then there's Marc who's been assassinated from all angles (irregardless of the reasons for and his own behaviour being the cause) yet he took it all in his stride and even knowing how the majority of the house felt about him, continued to integrate with them all.

None of the above are popular in the house.

Harry on the other hand has most of the house on her side so why on earth is she being painted to be a victim over ONE nomination?”

I agree, both times she acted in this way was after she had been accused of using Nick, which clearly hits a nerve with Harry.

I think they are both using each other tbf but her sulking is ridiculous. Harry was the one who ripped into Sam during nominations and has been harsh with Simon too, yet like some of the others in there she seems to feel she is above criticism.
teresagreen
16-06-2015
I felt sorry for her last night, but on second thoughts I think she was sulking. All that wanting to be alone and refusing to speak meant that it would draw the others to her and she would get their attention. She is used to faking because she is a sex worker.
acid rain
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by teresagreen:
“I felt sorry for her last night, but on second thoughts I think she was sulking. All that wanting to be alone and refusing to speak meant that it would draw the others to her and she would get their attention. She is used to faking because she is a sex worker.”




So then you're biased against her just because of her profession?
trevor tiger
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“Because you would have confronted the 2 ex prostitutes and/or just ignored their dirty looks, vicious comments etc....

Like water off a duck's back. ”

Who are the 2 ex prostitutes Whilst they're jobs seem irrelevant I feel the need to point out that Harry is a current prostitute of sorts
Steph_Cuckow
16-06-2015
She was doing it for attention and she got it eventually after storming past everyone getting air time in Dr then storming back too same place. She's a messed up girl who needs too see a physiologist
B L Zeebub
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Steph_Cuckow:
“ She's a messed up girl who needs too see a physiologist”

I'm sure a physiologist would help.
acid rain
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Steph_Cuckow:
“She was doing it for attention and she got it eventually after storming past everyone getting air time in Dr then storming back too same place. She's a messed up girl who needs too see a physiologist”


Helen, Nikki and Marc need psychologists.
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