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Chicken_stu

16-06-2015

Originally Posted by Bacon&Eggs:
“Nick drilling his nose through a tightly wrapped dressing gown, i thought hmm, Harry could really use a safe word at this point

I'm not a celebrity get me out of here.

Where do you stand on the whole; Nick using Harry for a show-mance thing?”

Hee hee 😄

I think Nick is playing quite a clever game-his sycophancy with all the housemates is clearly designed to prevent himself picking up nominations. At the same time, he probably thinks the public love a show-mance (and if it's unrequited he may even be aiming for the sympathy vote?).

Having said that, he's one of the more interesting male characters and I'm enjoying watching him (mostly)

Chicken_stu

16-06-2015

Originally Posted by kimindex:
“She's been upfront about it (I'm not a fan of hers, by the way) whereas Marc is clearly doing the same but is criticising her for it, like he's some moral arbiter. That's part of the reason why he's disproportionately angry with her and won't let her contribute, in case she takes some of the limelight he craves so much and thinks is his due away from him.”

Marc has gone in there with the express aim of shaking up the house and courting controversy. I can't claim to like him as an individual but he has been TV gold so far-and I'm sure the other HMs recognise it.

Harry unfortunately is not good in arguments-she simply can't hold her own and doesn't give as good as she gets. Instead, she goes off in a sulk and waits for the resulting attention, which makes it look as though she's being picked on.

B L Zeebub

16-06-2015

Originally Posted by Chicken_stu:
“Actually, I am a girl. And I used to use the tactic myself before I grew up. Everything Harry has done so far has been designed to get air time or Nick time, you only have to look at her "employment" website to see how much she enjoys manipulating the opposite sex.”

It really doesn't make any difference what gender you are.
Women, or girls, as you call yourself, can be just as sexist against women as some men can be.

The point is, Harry is having a tough time and her way of dealing with it is to take herself off for some alone time. She's not snivelling and demanding attention. That would be Simon, from what I've seen. Jack has had moments too, but he's a male so he gets away with it. Danny and Cristian have both also cried at various points. I don't think we have actually seen Harry cry yet. I may be wrong.

Bacon&Eggs

16-06-2015

Originally Posted by Chicken_stu:
“Hee hee 😄

I think Nick is playing quite a clever game-his sycophancy with all the housemates is clearly designed to prevent himself picking up nominations. At the same time, he probably thinks the public love a show-mance (and if it's unrequited he may even be aiming for the sympathy vote?).

Having said that, he's one of the more interesting male characters and I'm enjoying watching him (mostly)”

I agree, he's almost hoping for his advances to be spurned because it dials up that sympathy vote. If we can see that she can with much more clarity than us.

IMO She really did want him to leave, Danny too.

kimindex

16-06-2015

Originally Posted by Chicken_stu:
“Marc has gone in there with the express aim of shaking up the house and courting controversy. I can't claim to like him as an individual but he has been TV gold so far-and I'm sure the other HMs recognise it.

Harry unfortunately is not good in arguments-she simply can't hold her own and doesn't give as good as she gets. Instead, she goes off in a sulk and waits for the resulting attention, which makes it look as though she's being picked on.”

Being 'TV Gold' is entirely subjective and, as far as I'm aware, the viewing figures haven't increased since he went it. He's TV Iron Pyrites to me.

Marc cannot even sustain a discussion. If he can't quickly browbeat someone into submission, he stalks off in a temper.

Chicken_stu

16-06-2015

I do feel a teensy bit sorry for her as she seems unable to defend herself against Marc. BUT she has often shouted at and berated the 'weaker' HMs such as Sam and Simon-and now she is receiving the same treatment her reaction is not to stand up for herself but to hide in the corner like a sulky five year old. If you can't take it, you shouldn't dole it out to others.

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