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Dangermoose
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by babs_lawrie:
“I cant understand why liverpool marc is saying Helen wasnt nasty like that in his big b. What are you talking about marc she was probably even worse after having to put up with her for 2 months. In fact i would even say she was marcs downfall after he started getting friendly with her that was his downfall I thought he was in with a chance of winning till then”

He was never the brightest button .....
4troy7
16-06-2015
It's because of the hatred towards Helen . She dosen't deserve sympathy when she's been just as rude and nasty to other housemates ( Sam and Simon ) just last week.
Nikki_Noo
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by 4troy7:
“It's because of the hatred towards Helen . She dosen't deserve sympathy when she's been just as rude and nasty to other housemates ( Sam and Simon ) just last week.”

She was awful to Sam,not that I'm a fan of Sam but Harry was a nasty b itch ,same with Simon now suddenly she's been "bulled " oh please
kaceyy
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by 4troy7:
“It's because of the hatred towards Helen . She dosen't deserve sympathy when she's been just as rude and nasty to other housemates ( Sam and Simon ) just last week.”

Very much agree with this, just catching up on bots and they said Harry is now a shadow of her former self and all i can think is how Simon was left broken and no one seemed to care on bots infact they all laughed and rediculed him, it's beginning to irk me.
Penny Crayon
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by mitacond:
“Seemingly another little game to make GBP feel sorry for her .and she has until Friday do so very clever BB......its obvious BB want to keep her in there. ”

That's a very twisted logic.

It was Helen. Nikki and Mark who nominated her (and Brian) - it was all the HM's who immediately distanced themselves from her. That's not BB manipulation that's people behaving in an unnecessarily nasty fashion. It's a game - you nominate - people get evicted. It doesn't have to be done with such spite.

That wasn't pleasant to watch tonight. I don't think BB want to keep her in any more than any of the others.
GottaBeAdored
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“ it was all the HM's who immediately distanced themselves from her.”

This did not happen. She even said it herself for goodness sake.

Everyone went over to say hello, Danny asked her to come over and she said "They can come to me, I don't give f*ck".

She is the one who distanced herself.
kaceyy
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“That's a very twisted logic.

It was Helen. Nikki and Mark who nominated her (and Brian) - it was all the HM's who immediately distanced themselves from her. That's not BB manipulation that's people behaving in an unnecessarily nasty fashion. It's a game - you nominate - people get evicted. It doesn't have to be done with such spite.

That wasn't pleasant to watch tonight. I don't think BB want to keep her in any more than any of the others.”

This is simply untrue, the housemates just entered the house so the rest of the house welcomed them while Harry was waiting for the 'bb legends' to come say hi to her, which by her logic would mean no one should have gone over to her to welcome her in to the house..no one distanced themselves from Harry either.
kaceyy
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by GottaBeAdored:
“This did not happen. She even said it herself for goodness sake.

Everyone went over to say hello, Danny asked her to come over and she said "They can come to me, I don't give f*ck".

She is the one who distanced herself.”

Lol got in there before me.
Penny Crayon
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by kaceyy:
“This is simply untrue, the housemates just entered the house so the rest of the house welcomed them while Harry was waiting for the 'bb legends' to come say hi to her, which by her logic would mean no one should have gone over to her to welcome her in to the house..no one distanced themselves from Harry either.”

After being ripped to shreds on the screen would you have felt confident and comfortable approaching 'TV legends'?
GottaBeAdored
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“After being ripped to shreds on the screen would you have felt confident and comfortable approaching 'TV legends'?”

Jack managed it just fine.

Either way, it still doesn't change the fact that the HMs most definitely not distance themselves from her like you said, it was the other way round.

It's perfectly reasonable why she wouldn't rush over to greet Marc or Helen but that still doesn't mean she was ostracized.
kaceyy
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“After being ripped to shreds on the screen would you have felt confident and comfortable approaching 'TV legends'?”

By ripped to shreds you mean outed for her own actions? If you're fine to be as brazen as she is when bitching about others i see no reason why you wouldn't expect karma to come back at you, then proclaim they need to come to her, why what makes her so special? If she chooses to stay back while the others welcome those 'legends' then only a delusional person would see this as housemates distancing themselves from Harry .
Warp
16-06-2015
Massive difference between Simon and Harry. Simon was literally two faced on multiple occasions. The majority of the accusations levelled at Harry have absolute no basis or have been twisted as seen tonight with the whole washing debacle. Everything else stems from her standing up to Marc who was intentionally having a go at people to get kick out of it, as well as people having a problem with her being naked.
kaceyy
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Warp:
“Massive difference between Simon and Harry. Simon was literally two faced on multiple occasions. The majority of the accusations levelled at Harry have absolute no basis or have been twisted as seen tonight with the whole washing debacle. Everything else stems from her standing up to Marc who was intentionally having a go at people to get kick out of it, as well as people having a problem with her being naked.”

False, Simon has been two faces on multiple occasions? For nominating a fellow housemate? Harry has also been duplicitous whether you choose to see it or not, Harry began the whole hate campaign against Marc way before they ever had a confrontation therefore your point about Harry sticking up for her self is invalid.. Tonights show alone shows you how they pick apart Simon around the sofas, that's been Harrys Shtick since she's been in the house trying to rally the house against housemates, far more manipulative than Simon so if you think Simon deserved to be isolated then by that same token Harry deserved what she got..
Tayto
16-06-2015
Massive difference between Simon and Harry. Simon was literally two faced on multiple occasions. The majority of the accusations levelled at Harry have absolute no basis or have been twisted as seen tonight with the whole washing debacle. Everything else stems from her standing up to Marc who was intentionally having a go at people to get kick out of it, as well as people having a problem with her being naked.[/quote]

This.

It was uncomfortable viewing tonight especially when Harry was called into the Diary Room and told Big Brother was there for her. They weren't there for her when they let Helen loose on her. It's a shame they only started Live Feed to the Bunker just after she said she wouldn't celebrate Mark/Marc/Marq's eviction but for some reason since C5 took over all the storylines are based around a feud between 2 particular housemates. It was supposed to be Jade and Mark/Marc/Marq but she didn't play ball so they had to find someone else and Harry was it.

I also think Simon had started to settle in and the others coming in has now throw him again so he doesn't know where he is now. I expect more tears.
Tayto
16-06-2015
Sorry I don't know what happened the Quote in my post. I tried to fix it but can't.
ste12three
16-06-2015
When they all stood over Simon in the bedroom BOTS agreed it looks horrible and he held his own very very well.
This Harry hate is beyond normal levels, she flaunts her body and says stuff about other housemates just like everyone else but the abuse she gets is crazy.
In my opinion its because she goes against convention and is open with her body and the sheeple don't like it.
Lou17
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Hmm.

Did Simon get this sympathy when everyone bar Marc were standing over him during the Chloe and Eileen thing?”

Simons had to endure universal critisicm and isolation since day one, why the sympathy for Harry? She's courting drama, and is isolating herself.

Marcs assumptions have materialised.
Lou17
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by ste12three:
“When they all stood over Simon in the bedroom BOTS agreed it looks horrible and he held his own very very well.
This Harry hate is beyond normal levels, she flaunts her body and says stuff about other housemates just like everyone else but the abuse she gets is crazy.
In my opinion its because she goes against convention and is open with her body and the sheeple don't like it.”

Or she's using her body only to further her career, thus using bb as a clear stepping stone which many don't like.
Also when she does contribute it's either regarding her relationship status which she's changed more times then she's shown her nipples, or its to bitch and be nasty about the new hms which she's throwing to the wolves in order to get ahead herself.
She's also without clear reasoning made a beeline for Nick, if it isn't due to his popularity then why target him from the off? He isn't exactly attractive from his first nervous encounter.
Also her entire time is mainly spent under a duvet cover with a guy she claims to have no romantic interest in yet claims she cares more for him when too his face.
She also has clear anger issues, anyone regardless of the irritant, wouldn't jump to the thought of bottling someone so easily.
Also on several occasions in front of the group she's been unnecessarily belittling to certain hms demanding they correct her bed or referring to people as ****s.
Also her craving for attention, which she achieves through playing a pro victim can be quite dangerous in the real world.
I also find her almost obsessional hatred for Marc rather baffling, yes they rub one another up the wrong way but her level of dislike is rather baffling. I think she wrongly assumes it'll win the public over if she takes him on as he's presumed to be hated.
Her overall comments seem generally negative/nasty, her behaviour in jades task showed her lack of self criticism, and also her comments of 'they can come and speak to me first' once again reflects her sense of self importance.
Sorry their are many reasons to dislike Harry, it isn't as simple as assuming it's entirely due to prudishness or jealousy. Female hms believe it or not can be judged based on their actual personality
ste12three
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Lou17:
“Or she's using her body only to further her career, thus using bb as a clear stepping stone which many don't like.
Also when she does contribute it's either regarding her relationship status which she's changed more times then she's shown her nipples, or its to bitch and be nasty about the new hms which she's throwing to the wolves in order to get ahead herself.
She's also without clear reasoning made a beeline for Nick, if it isn't due to his popularity then why target him from the off? He isn't exactly attractive from his first nervous encounter.
Also her entire time is mainly spent under a duvet cover with a guy she claims to have no romantic interest in yet claims she cares more for him when too his face.
She also has clear anger issues, anyone regardless of the irritant, wouldn't jump to the thought of bottling someone so easily.
Also on several occasions in front of the group she's been unnecessarily belittling to certain hms demanding they correct her bed or referring to people as ****s.
Also her craving for attention, which she achieves through playing a pro victim can be quite dangerous in the real world.
I also find her almost obsessional hatred for Marc rather baffling, yes they rub one another up the wrong way but her level of dislike is rather baffling. I think she wrongly assumes it'll win the public over if she takes him on as he's presumed to be hated.
Sorry their are many reasons to dislike Harry, it isn't as simple as assuming it's entirely due to prudishness or jealousy. Female hms believe it or not can be judged based on their actual personality believe it or not.”

What's wrong with wanting to further her career? Last I checked ambition was a good trait.
Yes she's changed her relationship status but why does that warrant abuse like she gets? Beeline for Nick, why do you feel the need she should explain herself to you? Can she not cuddle or spoon who she likes? Nick has bedhopped between two women but it's okay - why?
Why is romantic interest needed to care for someone, perhaps she likes the intimacy he provides for her.
Yeah she has anger issues, but she hasn't burst into flames and hurt someone.
You say baffling, last I checked they both hate each other, she was the one that said "I'm not slagging him off while his beds still warm".

Yes there are many reasons but many of yours are related to her sexuality, either what she does with her body in or out of the house and her reasons that she spends time with male housemates.

Funny thing is I don't actually like her, I remember the bag task with Sam and she said something nasty to her, or the fact she ditched the new housemates but the nastiness she gets is beyond normal and people pulling stuff out of a hat. It's petty jealousy and obvious when most criticisms are about her sexuality.
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