Well I've never liked him so,it's difficult for me to see any difference tbh other than his teaming up with the vile Helen he has always been up his own backside IMHO he has always been aggressive and a bully so for me it's business as usual as far as my view of Marc is concerned.

Hiss odds have drifted at the bookies though Joel is closing in fast.

How ironic Helen's new lap dog cannot take ENGLISH banter silly fool

If the final was next week then yes I would say he has blown it , but the three visitors will be gone by Friday and everything will revert to normal over a period of days after that so he may well return to "chosen housemate" status.

Joel meanwhile is rising slowly through the ranks . Danny's kindness to Harry will have done him a lot of good and Chloe is up there as finalist material too.

I've been watching Danny's odds for a while now and there is a pattern. He takes someone on in the house and his odds shorten. Then he does naff all for a few days and his odds lengthen until he acts the hero again. . With this sort of game plan (if that is what it is) Timing will be important to Danny. If he does his hero act just at the right time it might push him to a win.

Joel has a good chance ATM. The only problem with Joel is he isn't getting much air time. When he does get it though it's generally positive for him. He needs a bit more though to clinch the win.

Chloe is on,y as good as those she is reacting against. She gains popularity when she is getting a hard time by fighting back. She doesn't do much otherwise and her odds have drifted these last few days as no one is pushing her. When she isn't being pushed she coasts.

Jade is an interesting one. Slowly climbing the ranks, staying out of trouble and making friends in the house. Could be one to watch. I don't think she will win but potentially top three.

Blimey I'm waiting for you to say who's fallen at Beecher's brook!!

The young filly Chloe is who bots may be backing because Rylan posed question to the panel that Marc told some HMs to watch out for Danny Jack Joel as they talk about people, but on HL show Marc had also said Cloe --- so why leave her out on bots ?

They do start pushing the popularity to certain HMs nearer the final.

This year I think its Chloe and Joel, so far anyway. They just slate the others more.

To early to say, what happens this week could be forgotten next week. The house is full of fence sitters which is why this year is so slow. With Jack and Danny pulling their strings, if Marc pulls back on the banter and teams up with Joel to put fun into that house, they will both make it to the final.

i thought his response was a lot less muted then many given a glimpse of other house mates (including the basement task this year)...he didn't have any horrible exposive blow up.

will depend how behaves in the coming days i guess but his actions where far far far more muted then this forum was making out yesterday.

also...i was afraid he might stay joined at the hip to Helen and he didn't last night. as long as he does that helen will draw a good bit of the heat off him

He could do with remembering that he is not the king maker. Yes he may have seen bits here and there and threaten to play the game, but at the end of the day it is the public who decide who stays and who goes (well, depends on who is up each week and if BB want to save them, but you get what i mean).

But Popeye, Cruella de Ville, sleepy and dopey are choosing the HMs for nomination !

I dont think so, the peeps who voted him in the bunker wanted a reaction from him and would be so dissapointed if he went in and did nothing. Hes doing ok at the moment and I have to say hes got BB back in my interest, think how boring it would be without him

I do think the remainder of this week will determine his popularity.

This is proof though that anything that comes into contact with Helen, comes off with nasty repercussions.

But some.of us are able to be objective and judge him for his behaviour in the house ! And our views change accordingly

I agree, he seems to think that only good things should have been said about him!

He is the one doing that, with Helen. However, I do hope he wins as I have a bet on him doing just that, after seeing how BB are portraying him, and how they did the same with Helen last year.

He's just on a loop now, he has nothing more to offer....throw cushions, pick argument, strut round in underpants, tell everyone how clever he is and how they're all stupid....repeat..

I think its the other way round.

Helen kept going on and on in the bunker about Joel Chloe and Jack being like watching an old ladies tea party, and wanting them up for eviction, but due to Marc's hatred and need for quick revenge at Harry , it blinded him voting tactically - he persuaded the others to put Harry up. Helen said to leave her til later.

And Marc's persuaded Helen that Joel's OK too. Bad news , as he's one of the dullards.

Marc's in control, with sidekick Helen, which angered Brian. He had no say in how Helen said the nom of Harry and her tone.

we is kindred spirits

So fed up with the producers fiddling that didn`t bother to watch last night......

Funny Marc has gone, now its bitch at those who preferred the house without him in it ! Despite the fact he knows he's annoying.

Why doesn't anyone tell him his speedo pants make him look a right d*ck.

Those 'enhancing' pants are a complete embarrassment - I can't believe the way he struts around like Gods gift to women. He looks beyond ridiculous.

They're Tardis pants but I think he's wearing them inside out.

Marc has to remember that legends will leave. And where will that leave him..

Right back where he was last week, none of the HMs bar Simon like him, they just see him as another obstacle between themselves and 150K.....

And then will we feel sorry for him? And he becomes our winner?

Budgie smugglers

.....and orange is just not his colour.