So people either think the bunker gang either attacked Harry with no basis or alternatively exposed her game plan, then put her up for eviction.

If you were Harry would you have greeted the new arrivals?

I don't get why housemates run over and hug newbies every time even after they know by watching the intro they are there to march in and screw them over to shake things up. I suppose they need to do so to curry favour with the people with the nominations power.

Would you go over to a group of people who have basically done a character assassination on you and said nasty personal things? I wouldn't - they would have snubbed her anyway as everyone knows they are paid to stir things up.

I would have done what she did.

No I wouldn't have fawned over them. She was ready to be civil with them in her own time.

i think she did the right thing. Look smiley, stay in room, hang back and let them come to her. In Ch5 clips we saw Brian come over and chit chat with harry.

In the Arguing with Helen clip, Harry said she had come and said hello to Nikki brian and later she'd say Hello to helen and Speak to her then.

OMG i loved it. Harry really is a strong willed Dom type. When helen tried to get her goat, Harry basically shut her down with a smile and Dismissal LOL

I'll talk to you later, then a complete Back turn and let helen talk to her BACK LOL

so deliciious, keep harry in Plz

I don't blame Harry at all for what she did.

As Brian said ......oooooooops awks.

She had no idea how to play it - she was shell shocked. Everyone jumped up and ran to the newbies - she stood there unsure what to do. No one stood by her. I really don't like her - I'm not sure what she should have done really. If she'd have run up to them (which she obviously didn't want to do - she'd have got the cold shoulder. It really was a no win situation and the longer she stood alone the worse it became.

Yes with bells on. Harry sucks at this game, sulking because she's nominated or not liked . . .boo hoo. What is it with this lot and being nominated . . Jeez

She signed up for it. BB is never fair. I wouldn't go in for a millon pounds.

She said to Brian "at least you had the manners to introduce yourself" , when she quite clearly stood back and said "well if they want to come over they can come to me".
Does she think she's somehow better than them, that they should make all the effort?.
She's hard as nails and the "i'm vulnerable and having a mini breakdown" is fooling no one.

It wasn't just to do with nomination, they showed a sequence of footage to the house of the others watching and commenting and a lot of their vitriol was directed at Harry.
Tell me this, if it was Jade who was so attacked, would you feel the same?
If she was upset by a group of powerful players coming in and calling her out on insignificant things and then felt like she needed to retreat to a bathroom and sob, would that be ok? Jade, I have no doubt, would be a wreck but no-one on here would accuse her of 'playing the victim' because she is popular.
I don't like Jade that much but I wouldn't condone Marc (with Helen) treating her the way he is treating Harry.

They showed a ton of footage of Jack being attacked but he somehow got himself up off his arse and did the right thing.

I wouldn't feel any different if it was Jade however I do remember a time when she was a wee bit on her own and she acted like she didn't care. I'm not remotely her biggest fan but my response on this thread is about what I like from HMs and not giving a damn is certainly a big part of that.

I want HMs and Harry in this instance to laugh in the face of the likes of Helen calling them whatever . . I'm not saying that is actually that easy but what really pees me off with Harry is that she actually does have people on her side but she would rather isolate herself and sulk.

If Harry had trotted over to the bunker HMs and tried being all nicey-nicey with them after the vicious and unjustified character assassination that she'd just had to endure, I'm sure her critics here would have been sneering and calling it brown-nosing/ And what kind of reception could she have expected from people who had just sat there and unleashed such a torrent of crap about her?

I like to think I would have gone and greeted them because I like to think I can respond creatively to adverse situations, but Harry clearly has not learned how to do that. Instead she reacts and plunges into a dark, sullen mood and can't or won't express herself.

With help from Danny and he was not the target that Harry was.


No she sobbed in the DR when Marc came in even though he didn't seriously say anything that bad to her at all


That's easy to say when you are outside of it seeking entertainment.
Yes, not everyone in there hates Harry but they are not her friends either. Nick, she is close to but he was more interested in ingratiating himself with the newcomers, lapping up their biased advice and accepting their fawning adoration. Marc and Helen were shouting out bad things about Harry to him, while she was in earshot and he loved the attention. I could imagine it's hard to trust anyone in there. Fair play to Danny for looking out for her, but tbh he and Harry aren't close.

I would, I'd prove a point that I'm the bigger person and at present its my domain where I have a group of friends. Saying hi pleased to meet you would've gone in her favour, particularly as it expresses no hard feelings and portrays that it probably just how they've edited her role in the show therefore not being the actual reality of the situation Acting like she did and stating 'they can come to me' just shows she's bitter and has something to fear.

It only seemed that way due to the nom and the accompanying comments to justify their reasons for their choice. Had they nommed Jack first, as he too featured in the run up clips, it would've seemed mainly directed at him. I also suspect the support for such an act towards Jack would be highly supported, add to that the fact he's a fella therefore he'd be more fair game.

Sulking because she got nominated doesn't help her, if the new arrivals don't like you so what BB it is a game. By not going over and socialising with them will not do anything to turn your situation around, just makes it worse.

But if she's had a such a hard background, then she'd know how to react, and wouldn't have stood back and let everything pass her by.

Why do you think that?

What do you mean by 'know how to react'? There are many different ways of reacting to a situation - this is how she chose to react.

Just because you think there is a better way of dealing with it - it doesn't mean that you are right and she is wrong.

I do think she's had a hard life - I'm sure others who've had a hard life would have reacted differently to her. We're not all the same.

I worried for Jack as he looked terrified but the four of them nominating definitely wanted Harry to feel awkward - Marc is their leader and he hates Harry.

The new arrivals and Marc have, since coming in, not proceeded to make Jack uncomfortable as they have Harry. Marc has forgiven him because he was drunk. The others are, in effect, 'killing him with kindness'.

Jack would have got very upset if they had treated him badly. They are treating Harry the way they are because they can and I doubt BB will do anything about it.

After what they had said! NO WAY.

Amen.

She brims with hostility it pours out of her, passive aggression is her tactic, so much for being a dominatrix? I would expect assertiveness to be her forte, She has not one redeeming quality, she is immoral, treacherous and as Marc rightly pointed out dangerous.

I really feel it's Harry's time to go. I just can't watch this awful non-relationship with Nick, I can't support her, and I just don't enjoy watching her.