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What exactly has Harry done to upset Marc and fans?
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Angie_Plasty
16-06-2015
There's a number of things Harry's done which people are justifiably (imo) not impressed with and they've been talked about, debated and conflated over and over.

On the OP's specific question about Marc, I think the answer to that is really simple - Harry will not go along with and make accommodation for Marc and "The Marc Show" the way the others have, and that's why she's got to go.
jp761
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Angie_Plasty:
“There's a number of things Harry's done which people are justifiably (imo) not impressed with and they've been talked about, debated and conflated over and over.

On the OP's specific question about Marc, I think the answer to that is really simple - Harry will not go along with and make accommodation for Marc and "The Marc Show" the way the others have, and that's why she's got to go.”

I actually don't care if she goes next.

But logically if we do try to go back to the first issues that came up between Harry and Marc. It was started with her hate of his vile words towards some of the housemates Chloe , Sam e.t.c. Isn't it fair enough that she hated him from that point ? Those were decent enough reasons at the time ?

And overall there personalities just clash big time , as i've said.
rhizo_mania
16-06-2015
For me Harrys biggest crime should also Nicks name on the charge sheet, she and Nick spend far to much in bed with a duvet glued to each other, for me BB11 was ruined by Josie & John James and I don't want to watch a repeat of that, sleep together at night if you want but don't waste your BB experience stuck under a duvet.....
Vesna
16-06-2015
75% of the threads are Harry centric.

if Marq knew he was only being discussed peripherally in Harry threads he'd be livid.

Works for me.
Armour Hot Dogs
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by rhizo_mania:
“For me Harrys biggest crime should also Nicks name on the charge sheet, she and Nick spend far to much in bed with a duvet glued to each other, for me BB11 was ruined by Josie & John James and I don't want to watch a repeat of that, sleep together at night if you want but don't waste your BB experience stuck under a duvet.....”

BIB: Agreed, isn't that what destroyed Live Feed as well? Camera just focused on the duvet waiting for any movement.
muggins14
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“75% of the threads are Harry centric.

if Marq knew he was only being discussed peripherally in Harry threads he'd be livid
.

Works for me.”

Hahaha Poor Marc
eramaa
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“75% of the threads are Harry centric.

if Marq knew he was only being discussed peripherally in Harry threads he'd be livid.

Works for me.”

If Harry knew that the vast majority of her support was only a side effect of people's hatred of Marc and Helen I'm sure she'd be equally delighted...
Jane_Lee3
16-06-2015
I don't hate Harry, but I do dislike her, and that is because (IMO) she is annoying and attention-seeking. She waffles on about how she is gay, bi, straight, all 3, she has a wife, she has a boyfriend, she doesn't have a boyfriend; it's like she makes stuff up to suit the situation at the time. And she also tries to be all cool and 'yeah I don't give a sh-t man' and then cries in the diary room when her behaviour is challenged by someone.

And yes I get pig sick of seeing her horrid fried egg t1ts and her frankly unnattractive body ... And before anyone starts, no I am NOT jealous. I look way better than her; she is NOT a good looking girl imo, but seems to think she is gorgeous. And I do not believe for a fleeting moments that she behaves like this in her own house... Going to the door to the postman with her baps hanging out. yeah right...

And I couldn't give a hoot about her 'profession' but her continual attention seeking, sulking, and flashing her baps off really grinds on my nerves. She definitely does it for attention and 'shock value, but it's just pathetic and laughable. What's more, every man I have spoken to about this, said the girl getting her baps out gets on their nerves too, and she is the least attractive female they have seen on BB. So it's not just women who dislike her.

All that said, she does NOT deserve the treatment she has been getting from the grotesque Marc and the hideous Helen.

I am also very disappointed in Nicki for 'siding' with them in their vitriol and hate, and annoyed by the way she is treating Jack. I think Nicki is just siding with the nasties because she is scared not to. But still it's nasty. She is very weak IMO, and I thought better of her.

People who admire individuals like Marc and Helen, remind me of people who admire dangerous criminals - because they see them as cool and dangerous and behaving in a way many people do not. It's a bit worrying though.. How can ANYone see Marc and Helen as someone to admire? They are vile parasites imo.

I wonder if Marc AND Helen have some kind of personality disorder actually.
Jules_Thornley
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by eramaa:
“If Harry knew that the vast majority of her support was only a side effect of people's hatred of Marc and Helen I'm sure she'd be equally delighted...”

I don't this is the case. I don't hate Marc. I keep saying he is just a plonker. But likeable despite his crass views on women.

I just don't understand the hatred of Harry. I think she has been an easy target due to her openly sexual behaviour and profession.I think she is pretty straight talking. Doesn't open up. Loads of reasons probably for this..
I'm intrigued to see a more warm or vulnerable side to her perhaps? So I'd rather she stayed in. See what plays out..
Vesna
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by eramaa:
“If Harry knew that the vast majority of her support was only a side effect of people's hatred of Marc and Helen I'm sure she'd be equally delighted...”

But you are wrong there. I have always liked Harry, nothing to do with Marq.
I don't hate Marq, I feel sorry for him. He's nearly 30 and still acts like an in--betweener. How sad for him.

I don't hate Helen either. Fact is I don't hate strangers on a teevee show, kind of sad that some people do.

Harry has support because Harry is a fascinating HM. She's not a dime a dozen same old same old. So many in there are, there were even threads at the beginning pointing out who in there now was just like who was in there before.
jp761
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by rhizo_mania:
“For me Harrys biggest crime should also Nicks name on the charge sheet, she and Nick spend far to much in bed with a duvet glued to each other, for me BB11 was ruined by Josie & John James and I don't want to watch a repeat of that, sleep together at night if you want but don't waste your BB experience stuck under a duvet.....”

Yep Nick gets of too lightly he's on that charge sheet too. What is annoying though , Helen must be deaf. Because Nick is under no illusion as he said in the diary room. He knows nothing may not happen between him and Harry on the outside. He said he doesn't have his hopes up. But also he said never say never. Also in the house he said the cuddles an spooning is nice. He doesn't take it for granted that it means some thing will happen on the outside.

So why Helen and others seem to think Harry is leading Nick on I don't know. He plainly knows the score. And it isn't Helen's version of events.
Jules_Thornley
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“But you are wrong there. I have always liked Harry, nothing to do with Marq.
I don't hate Marq, I feel sorry for him. He's nearly 30 and still acts like an in--betweener. How sad for him.

I don't hate Helen either. Fact is I don't hate strangers on a teevee show, kind of sad that some people do.

Harry has support because Harry is a fascinating HM. She's not a dime a dozen same old same old. So many in there are, there were even threads at the beginning pointing out who in there now was just like who was in there before.”


Pretty much agree here. It would be a loss if she were to go. I think there is more she can give this series. The same can't be said for a few others..
JanisElizabeth
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Jane_Lee3:
“I don't hate Harry, but I do dislike her, and that is because (IMO) she is annoying and attention-seeking. She waffles on about how she is gay, bi, straight, all 3, she has a wife, she has a boyfriend, she doesn't have a boyfriend; it's like she makes stuff up to suit the situation at the time. And she also tries to be all cool and 'yeah I don't give a sh-t man' and then cries in the diary room when her behaviour is challenged by someone.

And yes I get pig sick of seeing her horrid fried egg t1ts and her frankly unnattractive body ... And before anyone starts, no I am NOT jealous. I look way better than her; she is NOT a good looking girl imo, but seems to think she is gorgeous. And I do not believe for a fleeting moments that she behaves like this in her own house... Going to the door to the postman with her baps hanging out. yeah right...

And I couldn't give a hoot about her 'profession' but her continual attention seeking, sulking, and flashing her baps off really grinds on my nerves. She definitely does it for attention and 'shock value, but it's just pathetic and laughable. What's more, every man I have spoken to about this, said the girl getting her baps out gets on their nerves too, and she is the least attractive female they have seen on BB. So it's not just women who dislike her.

All that said, she does NOT deserve the treatment she has been getting from the grotesque Marc and the hideous Helen.

I am also very disappointed in Nicki for 'siding' with them in their vitriol and hate, and annoyed by the way she is treating Jack. I think Nicki is just siding with the nasties because she is scared not to. But still it's nasty. She is very weak IMO, and I thought better of her.

People who admire individuals like Marc and Helen, remind me of people who admire dangerous criminals - because they see them as cool and dangerous and behaving in a way many people do not. It's a bit worrying though.. How can ANYone see Marc and Helen as someone to admire? They are vile parasites imo.

I wonder if Marc AND Helen have some kind of personality disorder actually.”

Thank you thank you thank you. I was beginning to think I was the only person who thinks she has a pretty horrible body and a very unattractive face as well.
JanisElizabeth
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Jules_Thornley:
“I don't this is the case. I don't hate Marc. I keep saying he is just a plonker. But likeable despite his crass views on women.

I just don't understand the hatred of Harry. I think she has been an easy target due to her openly sexual behaviour and profession.I think she is pretty straight talking. Doesn't open up. Loads of reasons probably for this..
I'm intrigued to see a more warm or vulnerable side to her perhaps? So I'd rather she stayed in. See what plays out..”

I don't think there is one sadly. She said herself she is a cold person.
Jules_Thornley
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“I don't think there is one sadly. She said herself she is a cold person.”

You never know. I reckon everyone has their breaking point.. I'm sure she has had many in the past but has learned to hide it.
Jules_Thornley
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“Thank you thank you thank you. I was beginning to think I was the only person who thinks she has a pretty horrible body and a very unattractive face as well.”

See this is just sad. I think she knows her body isn't perfect. Who's is? Quite refreshing she doesn't care.
JanisElizabeth
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Jules_Thornley:
“You never know. I reckon everyone has their breaking point.. I'm sure she has had many in the past but has learned to hide it.”

Maybe but I just don't think so. I just get the feeling she is a very unemotional, unfeeling kind of person.
Sweet_Princess
16-06-2015
Harry was trying to goad Marc into reacting so he would get kicked out but he didnt. She is such a game player
JanisElizabeth
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Jules_Thornley:
“See this is just sad. I think she knows her body isn't perfect. Who's is? Quite refreshing she doesn't care.”

I dont' think she does. I think she does care but as she thinks she looks pretty good she's happy to flaunt it.
wotnot
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Armour Hot Dogs:
“Shouting at someone that they are a two-faced bastard, snake, flop, failure at life, 46yo weirdo is fine but tell that person you don't like them is where you draw the line.

Chloe is a 25 year old adult, not a child.”

In the former THEY were arguing. In the latter he was telling a young girl he just didn't like her and didn't know why even after she was in tears. If you can't see the difference It was unprovoked nastiness and he actually is a flop, he is a snake etc

I am very uneasy when a supposed grown man can behave that way to a young girl. I have daughters and if that had been my daughter no fury on earth would have kept me out of that house.
Jules_Thornley
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“I dont' think she does. I think she does care but as she thinks she looks pretty good she's happy to flaunt it.”

Okay we can agree to disagree. I think that she is so used to showing her body it makes no difference to her. It's not an issue for her.
Vesna
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“I don't think there is one sadly. She said herself she is a cold person.”

She said she wasn't a warm and fuzzy person when in a house with camera's in it. It was Nick who said to Jade that he could cut off a girlfriend in an instant which I found VERY COLD.

Originally Posted by Jules_Thornley:
“See this is just sad. I think she knows her body isn't perfect. Who's is? Quite refreshing she doesn't care.”

It's very sad to see women attacking other women's looks. I think it's great when someone doesn't hang on their looks as if that's the most important thing. .
ChipDouglas82
16-06-2015
I can't understand why Marc is moaning about her looking for airtime, when he's giving it to her by targeting her.

Surely if would leave her alone if that was the case? Personally I don't think Marc likes women who stand up to him.
eramaa
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Jules_Thornley:
“I don't this is the case. I don't hate Marc. I keep saying he is just a plonker. But likeable despite his crass views on women.

I just don't understand the hatred of Harry. I think she has been an easy target due to her openly sexual behaviour and profession.I think she is pretty straight talking. Doesn't open up. Loads of reasons probably for this..
I'm intrigued to see a more warm or vulnerable side to her perhaps? So I'd rather she stayed in. See what plays out..”

Originally Posted by Vesna:
“But you are wrong there. I have always liked Harry, nothing to do with Marq.
I don't hate Marq, I feel sorry for him. He's nearly 30 and still acts like an in--betweener. How sad for him.

I don't hate Helen either. Fact is I don't hate strangers on a teevee show, kind of sad that some people do.

Harry has support because Harry is a fascinating HM. She's not a dime a dozen same old same old. So many in there are, there were even threads at the beginning pointing out who in there now was just like who was in there before.”

I don't doubt that there are people who genuinely like her for herself, and people who like all three of them, but honestly, a really significant proportion of the support for her is couched primarily in terms of getting one over on vile Helen and Marc and not in terms of Harry herself.
B L Zeebub
16-06-2015
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“75% of the threads are Harry centric.

if Marq knew he was only being discussed peripherally in Harry threads he'd be livid.

Works for me.”



He's only using her for airtime.
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