I'm curious to know how you see the chloe thing.

well I've watched it a few times I saw it like this:

Marc stands up saying Chloe is nominated because she is boring.

Chloe gets upset and then embarrassed about being upset.

Helen (who i don't like by the ay at all so not being biased at all) Don't cry Chloe

Cue mass rant by Brian. who unfortunately I guess had 2 days of stuff to vent. being over protective of Chloe.

In the midst of this it get heated (IMO because of Brian mainly), Chloe seems to be a bit like "this is all because of me, I';m even more embarrassed and upset, I didn't want this'

so Brian leaps even more to her (unwanted) defence, slanging match between Brian and Helen.

If you watch the video the only input Helen seems to have (before the don't shout at me etc) is "Don't cry Chloe" not like in a shut up you shouldn't have an opinion about being up but more its only a game, you got nominated, its OK.

thats how I saw it, as ever I'm open to other interpretations, my opinions are never set in stone

Spot on..good post Stig

Its actually very dificult to tell what really happen and who said what because of the editing.
Watching the live bunker feed when Marc was talking on the phone at the end he asked if it was ok to tell the other bunkermates about the task etc etc. When it was shown in the highlights sho it was completely diferent , there was no clarifying with BB and it was absolutely seamless like they had done a retake.
And the Chloe thing wasnt seamless so its very dificult to know what anyone really said - its edited to isolate certain peoples contributions to serve the agenda of the producers.

Indeed. Like not allowing the public to see the 22+ warnings Helen Wood received in the DR last year for her foul behaviour.

Its true , Helen was a rough diamond that took a fair bit of polishing

Yeah, and we all know what kind of "polishing" it took. Dentures and boobs like hers don't come cheap..pun intended

More like a rock being polished into a stone.

Funny thing is, on watchng the replay Brian simply says "She has just been nominated, so we have to give her the benefit of the doubt OR ELSE WE are just picking on this girl. End of. the words 'Or else'" (which changes the meaning entirely to 'IF we dont let her speak) are totally overlooked as is the collective "WE'.. Brian did nothing wrong, and jusdging from the board Helens fans are still ignoring the context and redefining the whole discourse to suit Helens new interpretation. Of course Helen will only hear the words she wants to hear i.e. 'picking' then continues to repeat the word over and over. BIZARRE

Agree with all this


yep, she took 'picking on her' completely out of context. She just shouts people down and repeats the same stuff over and over till they lose patience/their temper.

Brian was the one who said chloe was in danger then pinned it all on Marc and helen. He's a little shit

in this argument he DID NOT, he said WE have just nominated her and WE should let her respond.
Earlier Brian did choose Chloe as being 'in danger' (that didn't automatically put her up for eviction) she was not the only one so she was amongst others when he said that earlier, ultimately he disagreed with the attitude they delivered it in and then began empathizing and defending her when he saw the reaction.

Exactly and I don't think the issue was that Chloe was up for eviction. It's the way they give their reasons. I think Brian was sick of them from the start to be honest and this was just a catalyst to tell them exactly how he felt.

I can't stand the Helen creature, however, I must admit, this is pretty much what I saw. However, she was completely wrong about Showbiz and his laundry and, had I been Harry, I would have said exactly the same thing. A 46 year old man who can't do his own washing is beyond the pale!

She's also a huge hypocrite. Going on about Harry leading on Nick then friend-zoning him. Isn't this what she was doing to Ash last year?
Complaining that the others don't take too well to nominating when she was completely backing up Steven when he was whining, crying and generally throwing a hissy fit because someone dare nominate him.