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Old 20-06-2015, 19:38
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And if not, who is better? I've been listening to a lot of Eminem's earlier material (My Name Is, Real Slim Shady, Stan, Without Me and Lose Yourself) and I can't think of any better rap songs than those

Eminem has never been afraid to be controversial and ground breaking and that's why he stands out
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Old 20-06-2015, 22:02
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He's the only one I can make sense of and he does tell a good story bless him.
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Old 20-06-2015, 22:28
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He's definitely the most accessible to a white, mainstream audience and he is extremely talented but I would say that Nas, Tupac, Kendrick Lamar, Rakim and B.I.G are better than him.
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Old 20-06-2015, 23:07
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If nothing else, Eminem is an incredible lyricist.
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Old 20-06-2015, 23:32
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Best white rapper, though I think the likes of Tupac and B.I.G are arguably better.
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Old 20-06-2015, 23:35
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I absolutely hate rap as a genre, but, I think he's made some incredible music, so, yep bravo him, the lads got talent.
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Old 21-06-2015, 00:04
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Imo he has the best catalogue as a whole it would've been interesting to see how B.I.G & Tupac's careers panned out.
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Old 21-06-2015, 01:09
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No. Not even close.
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Old 21-06-2015, 02:13
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Best white rapper, though I think the likes of Tupac and B.I.G are arguably better.
What other white rappers do you think he's better than?

I absolutely hate rap as a genre, but, I think he's made some incredible music, so, yep bravo him, the lads got talent.
So you "absolutely hate rap" but think he's made some "incredible music"? How? He's a rapper.
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Old 21-06-2015, 09:46
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What other white rappers do you think he's better than?


So you "absolutely hate rap" but think he's made some "incredible music"? How? He's a rapper.
Maybe this post is acknowledging Eminem's talents as a lyricist

Is the Real Slim Shady banned from most radio stations because it's lyrics are too rude? I never hear it on the radio
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Old 21-06-2015, 09:53
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He's probably up there with the best, certainly. Lyrically, he does things you wouldn't think possible, and he is very good at injecting his dark sense of humour into his songs. Who else could make songs about murder, rape, child sex abuse, domestic violence etc etc and for them to be humorous? I say he's a very talented guy, and when he's on form, he's genius.
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Old 21-06-2015, 10:02
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This, times about a gajillion
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Old 21-06-2015, 11:44
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Enimem has to be in the top 10 if not top 5.
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Old 21-06-2015, 11:51
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I think Em is a great rapper, he's got skills but he's no where near my favourite. Neither are BIG and Pac and anyone who says so i'm willing to bet they wasn't even around when they were making music and is just regurgitating what they have heard other people say. Both artists have been over elevated because they were murdered at the height of their popularity. 2pac was a massive jerk, it was only when he got killed that people started gushing over him.

P.S- Anyone who calls it 'rap music' is not a real fan of the genre.
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Old 21-06-2015, 12:02
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I actually find his songs hit and miss but he does generally write good lyrics.

Q tip, all of de la soul, mace are people i can think of off the top of my head
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Old 21-06-2015, 12:10
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He used to be. I don't think his lyrics are anywhere near as good as they used to be. His songs used to be more about telling a story, where as these days. the lyrics mean naff all and are an attempt to have hit after hit. Jay Z is the same as well.

Nas is an excellent rapper. His lyrics are very thought provoking.
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Old 21-06-2015, 23:33
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Maybe this post is acknowledging Eminem's talents as a lyricist
There are so many great lyricists in Hip Hop but if someone hates raps they are unlikely to discover or care. Eminem is a guy who gets airplay. (No idea about your question by the way, sorry, not ignoring it).

I think Em is a great rapper, he's got skills but he's no where near my favourite. Neither are BIG and Pac and anyone who says so i'm willing to bet they wasn't even around when they were making music and is just regurgitating what they have heard other people say. Both artists have been over elevated because they were murdered at the height of their popularity.
2pac was a massive jerk, it was only when he got killed that people started gushing over him.

P.S- Anyone who calls it 'rap music' is not a real fan of the genre.
There's a great deal I agree with here. 2Pac especially has been canonised since his death and I believe 90% of it is image, rumour and perceptions about his lifestyle. I never rated his as any significant talent or enjoyed any of his music at all. There are a handful of MCs who get name-checked by people who barely know Hip Hop and Eminem and 2Pac would be the two main ones.

Also the 'white rapper' thing: I'm sure many who site Eminem as the best white rapper don't know any other white rappers apart from a few who appear in the pop charts.
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Old 22-06-2015, 00:54
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Meh, he's no Betty Boo.
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Old 26-06-2015, 13:10
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Eminem = rap music for people who don't like rap music.
for someone who is technically talented as a rapper he makes terrible music.

soul less, tone deaf cheesy music for bully victims.
good for them if it helps them etc but keep his music is not for me or anybody that enjoys good music.

a picture of your typical Eminem fan;

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpre...y=65&strip=all

"i don't like rap music but i love Eminem"
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Old 26-06-2015, 13:18
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Eminem = rap music for people who don't like rap music.
for someone who is technically talented as a rapper he makes terrible music.

soul less, tone deaf cheesy music for bully victims.
good for them if it helps them etc but keep his music is not for me or anybody that enjoys good music.

a picture of your typical Eminem fan;

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpre...y=65&strip=all

"i don't like rap music but i love Eminem"
Yeah I consider myself to be one of those people. Sorry
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Old 26-06-2015, 13:34
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I'd say Eminem is one of the best technical rappers. when he's on form, his lyrics and delivery are excellent, but he's got quality control issues lately. He's definitely got "the skills to pay the bills" as they'd say back in the day. Whether he's the best rapper is of course debatable though, and a purely subjective question. He's in my top ten, alongside KRS-One, Chuck D, B Real, Busta Rhymes and Rakim. I'm an old school hip hop head though, stopped paying too much attention to rap when it went all gangster, though there are a few exceptions during this time, like Cypress Hill who had a different take on that, and kept the party music spirit I liked from when it all started. Eminem did spark my interest in rap again though, and probably got a lot of new peope interested in the genre so that's to his credit. Not that that makes him the best, of course, but whenever you see interviews with rappers they all give him respect. The documentary by Ice T, Something from Nothing: The Art of Rap clearly shows that he's respected by his peers.
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Old 26-06-2015, 13:36
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Eminem = rap music for people who don't like rap music.
for someone who is technically talented as a rapper he makes terrible music.

soul less, tone deaf cheesy music for bully victims.
good for them if it helps them etc but keep his music is not for me or anybody that enjoys good music.
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Hmm, i'm going to call bullshit on this. Dre took him under his wing and produced his early albums. I'd hardly call him someone who doesn't like rap music, or what he produced for him souless, tone deaf or cheesy.
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Old 26-06-2015, 13:58
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Eminem = rap music for people who don't like rap music.
for someone who is technically talented as a rapper he makes terrible music.

soul less, tone deaf cheesy music for bully victims.
good for them if it helps them etc but keep his music is not for me or anybody that enjoys good music.

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terrible music?? soul less?? not good music?? please can you explain in depth especially the last one.

have you even listened to his albums?
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Old 26-06-2015, 17:49
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Sorry Eminem now makes cheesy music?
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Old 26-06-2015, 18:13
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calling eminen best rapper ever to me is like calling nickelback the best rock group ever.
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