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If you're not convinced by four weeks of immunity, what would convince you of Marc
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crisis3
21-06-2015
he's an employee of Tv3 or at least an ex employee. there are rules, in the UK about employers of associated company' s not allowed to take part in competitions. this could be a scandal that ch5 are willing to take a hit on for
the publicity.
if it,comes out before cbb starts could be a boost to ratings.
benbeez1
21-06-2015
Marc the producers fav are you having me on (ROLLEYES/SARCASTIC)
BigBroCook
21-06-2015
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Well, I can understand how it might be viewed as unfair. But what I meant is that it may not be some giant conspiracy to crown him as the winner. I think it's more a case of the production team making it up as they go along.

Then again is the Clique's bloc voting fair? Maybe this is the counter balance?

Either way, yes, I can understand your frustration.”

I know what you're saying, but it's four weeks of actual, truthful, factual, production interference, not the nuances of HG feelings or cliques. It's actual, factual, interference, and it's not ok. It's measurable; it's scientific, not nuanced or social. It's actually pretty astonishing, even within reality show productions.
KDDS07
21-06-2015
Originally Posted by Arthur_B:
“The show would be significantly more dull without Marc in the house - the producers know this and will want to keep him in at all costs.

Marc staying in over the likes of deadwood like Jack, Chloe, Cristian, Danny is far more appealing to me than him leaving.”

But it's not fair to the others. Whatever. I give up.
KDDS07
21-06-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“If he's really that entertaining he wouldn't need 'fixes' to keep him in. It is unfair and bloody frustrating.”

This exactly.
Arthur_B
21-06-2015
Originally Posted by KDDS07:
“But it's not fair to the others. Whatever. I give up.”

I never said it was fair. It is what it is.
KDDS07
21-06-2015
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Well, I can understand how it might be viewed as unfair. But what I meant is that it may not be some giant conspiracy to crown him as the winner. I think it's more a case of the production team making it up as they go along.

Then again is the Clique's bloc voting fair? Maybe this is the counter balance?

Either way, yes, I can understand your frustration.”

Why isn't the Clique's block voting fair? It's strategy. It happens every series. That's how the game works. If it was Marc's clique it wouldn't be an issue -- now would it? Be honest.
patsylimerick
21-06-2015
Well, all the new hms were excluded from noms the first week. That's ALWAYS the case. So no argument there. Then, the PUBLIC decided to vote him into the bunker - not the production; so that's the next two weeks down to the public, not the production. This week, yes; absolutely. He should have been up. But let's be fair about the fact that he was always going to be safe the first week along with the newbies and it was the voters who made him safe for the next two.
Arthur_B
21-06-2015
Originally Posted by Halki:
“We all like and dislike different housemates.

I would be fine with Marc staying over those you consider deadwood _ IF it was a level playing field. If Marc is so entertaining he should be able to hold his own and stay in the house against them anyway.

The fact that they are protecting him stinks.

If he wins, it will be as tainted as last year.”

He *should* be able to hold his own, but you know fully well that the public have a tendency to vote out entertaining characters over the dullards that don't contribute anything. This has been going back over a decade now and there are countless examples.

I'm not for one second saying it's right or fair that BB are protecting a contestant over the others, but I can understand, with the ratings as low as they are, why they are doing it.
Panda Eyes
21-06-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Well, all the new hms were excluded from noms the first week. That's ALWAYS the case. So no argument there. Then, the PUBLIC decided to vote him into the bunker - not the production; so that's the next two weeks down to the public, not the production. This week, yes; absolutely. He should have been up. But let's be fair about the fact that he was always going to be safe the first week along with the newbies and it was the voters who made him safe for the next two.”


I honestly can't remember that it was stated that whoever was voted in to the bunker would be immune for two weeks after Patsy. One week while it was going on I do recall and thought fair enough. But not two. If he's now considered a legend he may as well go with them when they leave.
patsylimerick
21-06-2015
Originally Posted by Panda Eyes:
“I honestly can't remember that it was stated that whoever was voted in to the bunker would be immune for two weeks after Patsy. One week while it was going on I do recall and thought fair enough. But not two. If he's now considered a legend he may as well go with them when they leave.”

I honestly don't recall; but to say he's been protected beyond anyone else for four weeks is just plain untrue. He got the same protection every late arrival has had since the show began with the first week; then the PUBLIC decided he was the one to go to the bunker. So that's at least two weeks taken care of.
KDDS07
21-06-2015
Originally Posted by puddy:
“However they save him from noms, come finals night, they can't make him win.”

Yes but the longer a housemate is in the more time that housemates gets to "reinvent" his/her personna---which is, again, unfair to the other housemates---especially the original four who were uncerimoniously evicted even before the second week was over. As the Helen win proved, given enough time, ANYBODY can win over enough people to vote them to win. A big part of the BB game is the fans getting to vote out the big threats before they get an opportunity to get to the final.
patsylimerick
22-06-2015
Originally Posted by KDDS07:
“Yes but the longer a housemate is in the more time that housemates gets to "reinvent" his/her personna---which is, again, unfair to the other housemates---especially the original four who were uncerimoniously evicted even before the second week was over. As the Helen win proved, given enough time, ANYBODY can win over enough people to vote them to win. A big part of the BB game is the fans getting to vote out the big threats before they get an opportunity to get to the final.”

Which is why it SHOULD be vote to save. A much more positive and pleasant approach to the game. Vote to evict just sees the interesting characters and the 'threats to my fave' eliminated too early.
KDDS07
22-06-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Which is why it SHOULD be vote to save. A much more positive and pleasant approach to the game. Vote to evict just sees the interesting characters and the 'threats to my fave' eliminated too early.”

Yes. I see that. But as long as it's vote to evict we need to eliminate the threats. End of.
Arthur_B
22-06-2015
I'll never understand why they reverted back to Vote to Evict.
Vesna
22-06-2015
It's just a coincidence that the current director of programmes at Channel 5 was responsible for the development of Irish Channel TV3's programme Tallafornia which Marq starred in.

Northern & Shell has appointed Ben Frow, currently director of programming at Irish broadcaster TV3 and a former Channel 5 executive, as its new director of programmes at Channel 5, replacing Jeff Ford.

He was previously Channel 5′s controller of features and entertainment before moving to TV3 in 2007 where he has been responsible for the development of some of the channel’s most successful shows including Tallafornia and Celebrity Salon.
danielleh
22-06-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“I honestly don't recall; but to say he's been protected beyond anyone else for four weeks is just plain untrue. He got the same protection every late arrival has had since the show began with the first week; then the PUBLIC decided he was the one to go to the bunker. So that's at least two weeks taken care of.”

There's still no excuse whatsoever why he can't be nominated this week. It's as clear as day he's being protected.
BigBroCook
22-06-2015
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“It's just a coincidence that the current director of programmes at Channel 5 was responsible for the development of Irish Channel TV3's programme Tallafornia which Marq starred in.

Northern & Shell has appointed Ben Frow, currently director of programming at Irish broadcaster TV3 and a former Channel 5 executive, as its new director of programmes at Channel 5, replacing Jeff Ford.

He was previously Channel 5′s controller of features and entertainment before moving to TV3 in 2007 where he has been responsible for the development of some of the channel’s most successful shows including Tallafornia and Celebrity Salon.”


Holy shit
Panda Eyes
22-06-2015
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“It's just a coincidence that the current director of programmes at Channel 5 was responsible for the development of Irish Channel TV3's programme Tallafornia which Marq starred in.

Northern & Shell has appointed Ben Frow, currently director of programming at Irish broadcaster TV3 and a former Channel 5 executive, as its new director of programmes at Channel 5, replacing Jeff Ford.

He was previously Channel 5′s controller of features and entertainment before moving to TV3 in 2007 where he has been responsible for the development of some of the channel’s most successful shows including Tallafornia and Celebrity Salon.”


He really should have been in the next CBB.
patsylimerick
22-06-2015
Originally Posted by danielleh:
“There's still no excuse whatsoever why he can't be nominated this week. It's as clear as day he's being protected.”

I've said twice already on this thread that he should have been eligible this week. But making out that he's been 'protected' for four weeks is factually incorrect. ALL new hms are protected for the first week and the PUBLIC voted him into the bunker.

Perspective, people.
Vesna
22-06-2015
Originally Posted by Panda Eyes:
“He really should have been in the next CBB.”

Correct. More with less have been in.
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“I've said twice already on this thread that he should have been eligible this week. But making out that he's been 'protected' for four weeks is factually incorrect. ALL new hms are protected for the first week and the PUBLIC voted him into the bunker.

Perspective, people. ”

He was chosen out of a poor choice of 3. If it was for immunity than all hm's should have been eligible to be voted into the bunker. If it was for 2 weeks immunity we should have been told.
patsylimerick
22-06-2015
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“Correct. More with less have been in.

He was chosen out of a poor choice of 3. If it was for immunity than all hm's should have been eligible to be voted into the bunker. If it was for 2 weeks immunity we should have been told.”

It's irrelevant who or how many he was chosen from. The public made the choice. I think the first week after the bunker with immunity would be consistent with previous 'safe house' arrangements but I absolutely think he should have been up this week. This week is the only one I'd have an issue with. The point is that claiming he's been uniquely protected for FOUR weeks is factually incorrect.
Eve Elle
22-06-2015
Jack had three immunity passes, shouldn't he be considered a producer favorite too?
Panda Eyes
22-06-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“It's irrelevant who or how many he was chosen from. The public made the choice. I think the first week after the bunker with immunity would be consistent with previous 'safe house' arrangements but I absolutely think he should have been up this week. This week is the only one I'd have an issue with. The point is that claiming he's been uniquely protected for FOUR weeks is factually incorrect.”


This week I'm having a major issue with it. I honestly thought that Marc being the straight up kinda guy I saw at the beginning and which he claims to be would have an issue with it too.
Instead he seems to be enjoying his position and is lording it around like some overpaid management consultant.
danielleh
22-06-2015
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Jack had three immunity passes, shouldn't he be considered a producer favorite too?”

That was given at chance. Simon, Adjoa, Nick or Jade could also have received the same reward had they chose differently. Furthermore, they twisted it so he could use it on other people, and randomly put the housemates (including Jack) who had no nominations up for eviction that week. There's a world of difference between Jack's immunity passes and Marc's random immunity this week.
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