How is your love life?

You going to Africa for that lost love from Uganda or wherever?

The millionairess would not mind?

I've never had any romantic involvement with that 'millionairess' so she would have no reason to mind.

Thanks for replying. I started a thread for you for fans and anti-fans. Do not be shy with your feelings!

I'd probably give the 'anti-fans' thread a miss if I were you!

Nothing did keep me watching for BBs 1, 2, and 3. I watched them some, but lost interest. Usually the HMs I like are unpopular (Sandy, Sunita, Narinder, Mel, Sophie, Tania, Becki, Shell). I never liked the winners.

Then Kate won BB3. Someone I actually liked.

So when BB4 came around, I started having it on when there was nothing better to watch (which was suprisingly often), and I went to the C4 forum (which had some good discussions that year). Talking about it made me watch it more. So, in a way, it was forums that made me interested in BB, rather than the other way around.

What I want in BB is housemates I don't mind spending a lot of television time with and who aren't like people I know anyway in real life. Also, people who are interesting to watch (because its' tv, not radio.) Not irritating, annoying people. Not BB experts who suck up to fan prejudices (ie, not like Victor and Marco, though I liked Vic despite this).

I hate stirrers, and I hate HMs who start saying others shouldn't be there at all if they don't behave in certain ways. (That's what turned me against Me-Me Michelle -- when she went "why are you here?" on Ahmed. Victor's also guilty of this.)

I love HMs who don't go along with what BB wants them to do, especially if they don't cave in, and provided they don't become a boring, monotonous drone about it like Kitten. It's also a plus if they seem a bit mad in a non-distressing way (Tania with her blusher, Becki and her new age psychology and spanking games, Lisa Two-Fingers. Cameron also gets some points here.) ("Non-distressing" because I wouldn't want someone who was really suffering psychologically to stay.) But again not if they're colourless or dull (Steph with her cleaning.)

Some interesting points there but I with regard to Michelle - I think she meant that as Ahmed wasn't 'playing the game' (literally!), then why the hell did he agree to take part? Not why did Ahmed the man, per se, become a contestant.

I could understand her point entirely, if he wasn't prepared to join in and thus jepordise the outcome of the game (& remember it was vitally important to Michelle NOT to fail the task) then why even enter the competition?

Had another housemate entered the Diary room, I believe that BB would have given them some ridiculous task to carry out ... like go round and collect the batteries.

BB would have just waited until they managed to catch your attention and get you in the Diary Room. That task was made for you.

Not your fault I know.

I for one do not need you to 'shed some light on certain topics' ... I was watching and I can make up my own mind.

By all means put forward your point of view but that is all it is.

Argeed to take part in what? If I went on BB, I certainly wouidn't do any task I thought was obnoxious. Why should I? When would I have agreed to wade in fish guts or sit out in the rain?

Why should he have to join in? So what if he jeopardized the task?

That's the attitude of sports bullies at school. Even if you don't like the sport, they think you're supposed to "try". Leap for that ball even if you fall on your face. They think everyone has to be like them.

Cameron (should it be you), if you're wise you'll keep well away from this forum. I'm afraid you'll get nothing but hassle. Unless you have a masochistic streak, therefore, you would be ill-advised to post here!

Cameron didn't just become popular after he went to South Africa, he survived the double eviction against the papers favourite Jon (we always knew Federico was going to be evicted).
I disagree about the worst housemate ever, that was undoubtedly Jon but I'd have prefered Anouska to win of course.
My mum loved Cameron all the way through BB so there really are a lot of desperate housewives out there voting.

Think I'll change my log in to SportsBully then, because yeah, I DO think everyone should have a go at something and join the team, not be a pouting, spoilsport outsider.

He knew what was expected of him when he agreed to take part in the show, he knew some amount of teamwork would be necessary and he decided to opt out not through any religious or moral grounds but because he was a lazy, selfish bugger.

The idea of the tasks is that the contestants work as a team for a reward and if I'd been there I would've come down very hard on him for letting the side down.

Describing it as "pouting" and "spoilsport" is just spin.

Why should everyone have to have a go at wading in fish guts, for example? It's perfectly reasonable to object to that and indeed to despise the pathettic slave-mind joiners and bullies who go along with whatever BB tells them to do and try to manipulate and bully others into doing the same.

Oh really? He was told what all the tasks would be, was he?

Sure, some amount. That's not quite giving Big Brother a blank cheque, though, is it?

And if you tried to bully me like that, we'd have a bigger falling out than anything seen in BB5.

Indeed, you'd be letting the side down by becoming Big Brother's bully boy.

Veri, you'd make an excellent HM

Hiya Cameron!

Id just like to know if you even watched the fifth series of BB, and if you enjoyed it. I know I certianly did!!

Do you think BB treated the HM's too "evilly"? (If thats a word!! )

Thx

Pipez

PS. Me thinks ur a good sport coming on here and facing all tis critisism!

Because it's in the rules :

There are 10 basic rules regarding life inside the Big Brother house.
* There is no contact with the outside world.
* Contestants are filmed 24 hours a day and must wear your personal microphones at all times.
* The Diary Room is the only place in the house where Big Brother will acknowledge contestants. Visits to the Diary Room are compulsory.
* Each week contestants will be required to go to the diary room and nominate two people; Contestants must give frank and honest reasons for your nominations.
* Contestants are not permitted to discuss nominations, or try to influence anyone else's nominations.
* The public will decide who is evicted.
* All tasks are compulsory.
* Contestants may not threaten, intimidate or act violently towards any other housemate.
* If contestants break the rules they may be asked to leave the house.
* Big Brother reserves the right to change the rules at any time.

The others just got on with it though. Why shouldn't he? A couple of the others had to pull extra guard duty because of him.

Where to begin?

Why should everyone have to have a go at wading in fish guts, for example? It's perfectly reasonable to object to that.

Eh no, being asked to skin a kitten would've been objectionable, the guy was squeamy. Now, if he had gone into the Diary Room and said calmly:

For religious reasons I cannot do this task then I would've been fine with it.

He was told what all the tasks would be, was he?

Nooo, because that would have rather spoiled the game now wouldn't it? But he would've been alerted to the fact that some of the tasks would not be physically pleasant (if you can find a copy of the memo allegedly sent by Tickle to his mates before he went into the house, then you'll see that they were forewarned the tasks would sometimes be unpleasant).

And if you tried to bully me like that, we'd have a bigger falling out than anything seen in BB5.

Hey, it would make it more watchable and get the ratings up and at the end of the day that's the only thing that counts.

Indeed, you'd be letting the side down by becoming Big Brother's bully boy

You're too kind

So what if it's in the rules?

Indeed, we've seen that HMs don't have to take part, for instance in Celeb BB.

If you break the rules, then, sure, BB might do something about it. Perhaps decide the task was failed. Perhaps you're thrown out.

But none of that adds up to "you have to do it".

And if you are thrown out, at least you still have some self-respect, unlike the fishgut waders left behind.

How much will they humiliate themselves just to stay in, just to keep that chance of winning?

I'll always have more respect for the ones who, like Sunita or Sandy, leave instead.

No, they chose to. They didn't have to.

And they behaved reasonably. They tried to persuade and compromise -- good political and interpersonal behaviour.

Michelle, on the other hand, didn't.

Especially since she knew that failing the task would actually be the best result for most of the HMs.

And that didn't work either because Ahmed was selfish and lazy and wouldn't listen to reason.

I'd agree - do it or lose the money or leave .....

But surely most HMs enter to stay as long as possible and some are after a top spot and the money .....

So, if they don't want to leave or if their refusal affects the "pot", they should do the task .....


Hence, a good question to Ahmed from Michelle - "why are you here?" .....

Cameron, if that is you, I think you were a great housemate and provided entertainment. Also BB4 was a great series although obviously duller than the others. I think it has now become fashionable to jump on the BB4-is-boring banwagon and that is unfair. There were many great housemates although others were odd choices. It was the publics fault for voting certain people out and the ridiculous amout of gimmicky things imposed on the housemates was also not your fault.

I feel sorry for you having to endure all this flak mate. Make sure you post here more often btw!

Nicely put, i agree! I mean we are coming up for BB6- BB4 is sooo 2 years ago, people should just get over it.

Yes, where to begin with bullies and apologists for bullys, with blindly rule-following slaves?

Of course it's reasonable to object to fish guts. More HMs should object to more things. The Celebs in the most recent Celeb BB, for example. BB had no business making them -- especially the older ones -- sit around in the cold and damp, or, indeed, spinning them around to make them vomit.

I wonder. I suspect you'd have doubted that there really were religious reasons.

In any case, no one needs a grand reason like that.

So he didn't know "what was expected of him when he agreed to take part in the show". None of them signed up in advance for whatever BB decided to throw at them. Ever hear of informed consent? People need to know what they're agreeing to, and not just in vague, general terms, for them to really be agreeing to it.

We're getting near to the ridiculous Davina line that because the HMs were told to "expect the unexpected" they lose all right to object to anything.

So what? "Physically unpleasant" covers a lot of ground. Being alerted to that possibility does not constitute agreement to arbitrary unpleasantness.

Indeed, it's doubtful that the HMs had any reason to believe the tasks were going to be significantly more unpleasant than in earlier BBs. That Jon was warned of "physically unpleasant" tasks for BB4 suggests that "physically unpleasant" can mean things that are quite mild.