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Old 25-06-2015, 20:02
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Just want to know if this is about max I should expect. I had bt adsl and speed tests generally showed 17.5/1.5 over wifi to phone.

I got infinity 1 this afternoon and seeing 35/9.5 as my best on same phone.

I know the max is 38 but when I used to be with be* a few years back I used to max out at 24mb connect.

Sometimes I do this speed test and it comes back like 18/9.5 on my new infinity.

Am I best leaving it or try rebooting say tomorrow?
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Old 25-06-2015, 20:10
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Don't use wifi for any sort of important measurement. It isn't reliable and there's a good chance that interference or some other wireless issue is why you saw a bad speed.

The best way to test is with a computer plugged directly into the home hub with nothing in the way (no wireless, no home plugs)
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Old 26-06-2015, 06:35
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Just another query.
how does infinity 2 work ?

Ie. I'm getting say 35 just now. So not hitting the max 38. So does that mean infinity 2 is no use to me? If I can't reach 38 then I can't go higher ?
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Old 26-06-2015, 07:26
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Just another query.
how does infinity 2 work ?

Ie. I'm getting say 35 just now. So not hitting the max 38. So does that mean infinity 2 is no use to me? If I can't reach 38 then I can't go higher ?
That's correct. They both use the same technology so if you get 35meg with Infinity 1, you will also get 35meg with Infinity 2.

Never use a speed tester over Wi-Fi. I get 72 meg when plugged directly into my Hub 5 but only 24 meg running the same test wireless.
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Old 26-06-2015, 17:27
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I don't have a computer but my homehub manager says connected at...
39998
9999
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Old 26-06-2015, 17:28
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Just another query.
how does infinity 2 work ?

Ie. I'm getting say 35 just now. So not hitting the max 38. So does that mean infinity 2 is no use to me? If I can't reach 38 then I can't go higher ?
Not necessarily. With infinity 1 your line will be connecting at 40Mbit or as close to that as it can get. Overheads can reduce that by a few Mbits. So not being able to get 38 dead on doesn't really mean much.

What does BT's site say you can get? http://www.dslchecker.bt.com

I don't have a computer but my homehub manager says connected at...
39998
9999
You will almost certainly get more speed on infinity 2 if you went for it, but how much more is anyone's guess.
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Old 26-06-2015, 17:34
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That's correct. They both use the same technology so if you get 35meg with Infinity 1, you will also get 35meg with Infinity 2.

Never use a speed tester over Wi-Fi. I get 72 meg when plugged directly into my Hub 5 but only 24 meg running the same test wireless.
If you get 35 out of a max 38 on infinity 1, then on infinity 2 you would get in excess of 70Mb/s
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Old 26-06-2015, 18:32
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If you get 35 out of a max 38 on infinity 1, then on infinity 2 you would get in excess of 70Mb/s
No you wouldn't, it all depends on how far you are from the cab. If the line was capable of supporting speeds of 70meg then the speed would be maxed out on Infinity 1.
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Old 26-06-2015, 19:01
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No you wouldn't, it all depends on how far you are from the cab. If the line was capable of supporting speeds of 70meg then the speed would be maxed out on Infinity 1.
Which it is, according to the router stats. 39998/9999 is dead on. 35Mbit as reported by a speedtest would suggest connecting at the full line speed for infinity 1 - the few megabits here or there is not of concern

It isn't "70meg" either, it's up to 76Mbit (well, 80 really). Even if the line was only capable of 50Mbit it'd see an improvement on infinity 2
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Old 26-06-2015, 19:05
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Which it is, according to the router stats. 39998/9999 is dead on. 35Mbit as reported by a speedtest would suggest connecting at the full line speed for infinity 1 - the few megabits here or there is not of concern

It isn't "70meg" either, it's up to 76Mbit (well, 80 really). Even if the line was only capable of 50Mbit it'd see an improvement on infinity 2
I'm well aware of that, I'm a BT Openreach engineer and repair Fibre connections on a daily basis. I was simply quoting the 70meg that the other poster spoke of.
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Old 26-06-2015, 19:14
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For me I don't know where my cab is. The exchange is at back of my house though. When I was with be Internet I used to sync at the full 24xxx though that went down to 19xxxx when I moved to bt adsl.
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Old 26-06-2015, 19:17
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For me I don't know where my cab is. The exchange is at back of my house though. When I was with be Internet I used to sync at the full 24xxx though that went down to 19xxxx when I moved to bt adsl.
Sounds like the cab is gonna be pretty close then. It's possible you used to be connected directly to the exchange with no cab, however a lot of exchange only lines are now getting cabs installed within the exchange grounds or just outside.
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Old 26-06-2015, 19:20
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Can I ask 1 final question....I think.

My home hub 4 and now my new hh5. If I cold start it. It eventually connects....Blue but the a few secs later goes orange before retrying and always works second time.
Does everyone's do that ?

Connection is rock solid after the second connect just every time I've ever cold started it does this. It's on all the time anyway so just curious
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Old 26-06-2015, 19:34
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Sounds normal. The light should initially be green and will then go solid blue for approximately 10 seconds. It will then start flashing orange as it determines what sync speed to connect at. It will flash slower when sync is achieved, this is the authentication stage. If authentication passes you will then get a solid blue light. If the light is a solid orange then authentication has failed.
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Old 26-06-2015, 19:36
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Ah thanks. Always thought when it first went blue that should have been it ready to go. Only to be gutted that it then changed.

Thanks
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Old 26-06-2015, 20:32
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Sounds like the cab is gonna be pretty close then. It's possible you used to be connected directly to the exchange with no cab, however a lot of exchange only lines are now getting cabs installed within the exchange grounds or just outside.
Yes this has happened to me on my video you can see the green box
https://youtu.be/MVNvxFrkkM4
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Old 26-06-2015, 21:42
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Don't use wifi for any sort of important measurement. It isn't reliable and there's a good chance that interference or some other wireless issue is why you saw a bad speed.

The best way to test is with a computer plugged directly into the home hub with nothing in the way (no wireless, no home plugs)
Ahhhh the old WiFi isn't up to it FUD.

HH5
http://uk.tp-link.com/products/detai...L-WDN4800.html in the PC
20 feet apart with a brick wall in the way.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/4462274146.png

Its just a gnats cock slower than if i use my nasty evil homeplugs
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Old 26-06-2015, 22:35
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Ahhhh the old WiFi isn't up to it FUD.

HH5
http://uk.tp-link.com/products/detai...L-WDN4800.html in the PC
20 feet apart with a brick wall in the way.

http://www.speedtest.net/result/4462274146.png

Its just a gnats cock slower than if i use my nasty evil homeplugs
It's about eliminating variables. WiFi may work, but it might not (especially in situations like a block of flats where there are lots of networks sharing the same frequencies). I normally get full speed on my WiFi network too, but I wouldn't use it for anything where accuracy of the result is important.

With a bit of cat5e you will get 100Mbit or 1Gbit, easy, guaranteed.

Homeplugs, the awful kludge that they are, even be even more volatile depending on the quality of the wiring, which sockets you use, which ones you buy and so on. Wouldn't go near the things myself - I'd rather run a bit of cable that was designed for the purpose, rather than polluting the airwaves with those POS
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Old 27-06-2015, 15:32
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With a bit of cat5e you will get 100Mbit or 1Gbit, easy, guaranteed.
Local traffic only (ie in your house between pc's) - a bit of cable won't boost internet speed to 1GB.
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Old 27-06-2015, 15:55
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Local traffic only (ie in your house between pc's) - a bit of cable won't boost internet speed to 1GB.
Of course, but what I meant was that it would not be a bottleneck like wifi or homeplugs can be
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Old 28-06-2015, 18:15
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I am thinking of getting Infinity 38Mbs from BT

Whats is the average download speed? , also would this be the same from a laptop on wireless?
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Old 28-06-2015, 18:35
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I am thinking of getting Infinity 38Mbs from BT

Whats is the average download speed? , also would this be the same from a laptop on wireless?
What range of speeds does BT's site say after you put in your phone number?

Whether wireless will provide the full speed isn't guaranteed - it's very likely, but as the OP here seems to be finding, it may not give full speed all of the time.
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Old 28-06-2015, 18:55
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What range of speeds does BT's site say after you put in your phone number?

Whether wireless will provide the full speed isn't guaranteed - it's very likely, but as the OP here seems to be finding, it may not give full speed all of the time.
You could get
61Mb-80Mb
Estimated download speed range*


Broadband says 9-17mbs speed

Just wanted to know if downloading via ethernet or wireless is same speed ?
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Old 28-06-2015, 19:27
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You could get
61Mb-80Mb
Estimated download speed range*


Broadband says 9-17mbs speed

Just wanted to know if downloading via ethernet or wireless is same speed ?
Then you will almost certainly get 38-ish Mbps on ethernet. Whether you get that on wireless is very possible but not guaranteed, like I said.
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Old 28-06-2015, 20:36
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Im on Infinity 2 unlimited and get download speeds of between 64mb and 72.2mb 99% of the time.
I have seen download speeds of 75mb but not offen. I have also seen download speeds drop to 61mb but again that don't happen very offen.
When using BT TV or the likes of Netflix I have noticed download speeds can drop by 1mb. Sometimes by 1.5mb.
Wi-Fi speeds will always be a little slower than via Ethernet. For over Wi-Fi in my house I get just under 20mb downloads speeds 98% of the time compared to what I get above using Ethernet.

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