The fact it's become extremely lefty is just that, a fact.

Only watched 10 minutes of the last episode. It's become far too "politics" related and heavy viewing. It's supposed to be a light hearted look at the weeks news, of course the refugee crisis is big news but I really didn't appreciate the one sided views they gave nor the rant Adam Hills keeps giving

I've enjoyed the show right from the start, but apart from Alex Brooker showing what a vile big headed creature he is off screen, I was beginning to already find that over an hour is simply too long.

That and Adams 'spontaneous' shouting rants 'straight from the heart' (!)

I fear that this show may now have run it's course and it's probably better for them to go out on a relative high.

The Earth orbits the Sun is a fact, categorising opinions as 'extremely lefty' is just another opinion.

Personally, I'd categorise Adam's views as simple humanity which anyone apart from a right-wing little-englander would empathise with. But on the other hand, that's just my opinion.

I can see your point that it is ultimately opinion rather than fact.

I don't think, however, that there are just two options... either having some humanity or being a right-wing little-englander. In fact much of the criticism has been that simplistic black&white good/bad distinctions are generally insufficient. I can't help but feel that in your post you have mirrored the aspects of the show's tendencies that receive this criticism. It is also a bad sign when an argument descends to insults. It is surely possible to care but also be aware that the issue is complicated with no obvious solution.

They have a Cancer Special coming up so maybe the tone will change in that one.

Then next year they have the paralympics so it could go back to basics. It would help if they're over there though so they can have the athletes in the studio.

Good job it's not on this week...

#isitok to kill an ISIS loving jihadist, plotting major terror attacks in the UK

Adam Hills opens his mouth, 55 minutes later credits roll as he finally draws breath

3 months later Adam, Josh and Alex attend premier of Spectre where James Bond is sent overseas to assassinate an enemy of the UK

Unlikely, given that's not the plot of SPECTRE.

And there we have the typical attitude of a lefty. I am correct and if you disagree then you are a horrible person.

Bond always kills someone overseas, usually when he was not supposed to.

In contrast to you being dismissively intolerant of "lefty" views and stating your opinion as fact. Not to mention characteriaing all people with certain views as sharing "typical" behaviour.

Hills isn't being a lefty here. He's expressing compassionate views. Even right wing politicians are catching on that compassion is necessary in this crisis. Except Nigel Farage of course.

But it's all biased to one side of the argument. What about compassion for the poilice and authoities who are trying to manage the situation over there?
What about the truckers who are stuck for days in traffic and having their trucks invaded by migrants?
What about the haulage companies who are losing out on business because of the delays.
What about the small businesses that could be losing money and orders because they aren't getting their deliveries? Possibly staff cuts as well.

They are not neccessarily ranting points but could be brought up to balance the discussion.

He's expressing compassionate views without looking at any of the other sides of the argument. Germany have an open house policy and are set to take 1m refugees, luckily they can do it as they have probably the strongest economy in the world, we don't.

'Man has opinion' shocker. It's not the news, it's not required to be sodding impartial.


So he has to sit there and list every possible group who might be somehow disadvantaged by the migrant crisis one after another pointing out what their particular issue might be and how sad it was? Dullest. TV. Show. Ever.


It's not a discussion, it's a comedy show. FFS. It's not bloody Newsnight. if Michael Macintyre spends 10 minutes on Live At The Apollo complaining about trains, do you expect someone from Network Rail to come on afterwards?

And in any case, given two of three presenters have prosthetic legs, I'm fairly sure asking for balance would be in poor taste.

In summary 'show does not agree with my political views! WAAAAAH!'

Very hard to for me to equate the real-life killing of people abroad with a fantasy spy film which has pretend killing in it, where, you know, the actors get up after the cut and carry on.

I don't think it is hypocritical of someone questioning the morality/legality of drones but at the same time wanting to watch a very much pretend film.

No not him. I said maybe get on a guest who can balance out the rants and discussion just a little.

Some of the guests have sat there looking sheepish because they don't want to get involved. Lee Mack didn't seem comfortable to me.



Where is the comedy in his latest diatribes?

Once again - What makes you think there's meant to be serious discussion? It's at best a topical 'in' to a piece of comedy, apparently mostly these days via youtube clips. Nobody (but you, apparently) expects detailed analysis.


Some people aren't comfortable with challenging things being said. That's fair enough. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't say them. If The Last Leg has an ethos at all, it's that people's preconceptions should be challenged and what IS uncomfortable should be explored through comedy. That is after all where the '#isitok' thing actually started - basically a list of questions or observations about people with disability the general public were too embarrassed to ask in person. TLL has always challenged people's views on the way things 'should' be. It seems you aren't very comfortable with your views being challenged. Well, that's understandable. But you need to come up with a better argument than 'down with this sort of thing', frankly.


Who made you the final and absolute authority on whether things are funny?

Where did I? I asked a question.

Wouldn't mind a Last Leg of the Year in December to kick off a 6 part January series next year then a nightly series during the Paralympics before the series concludes.

Don't mind jonbwfc, at least he hasn't thrown a thinly veiled accusation of supporting paedophilia at you.
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You know James Bond isn't real? You're confusing reality with fantasy.

The situation we have now is like in Death on the Rock, where the SAS killed 3 IRA terrorists in Gibraltar. There was a huge stink about that at the time, and its right there should be a huge stink now. We are not at war with ISIS, and we don't have the death penalty for treason (or any other crime) now, there was no due process, and the PM has been inconsistent with his justifications.


Most of that is happening because we insist the refugees get into this country before we will process them. If we could accept applications in Calais, they could form an orderly queue there and wouldn't have to sneak onto lorries.

What's wrong with it being left leaning? It's not the bbc.

Does seem almost like the producers realised the original 'Adam Hill's rants' were popular and so have decided to do them each and every week at this point and have run them into the ground.

Agree with many on here - I used to be a really regular viewer of the show but now only really watch if nothing else is on and often actively avoid it depending on the news agenda of the week.
It's become far too 'right-on', preachy and political a show for me (some politics is inevitable of course based on the news but there's so much of it on the show now and if I want that I'll watch Newsnight) and really rather lecturing and self-satisfied at times.

I feel as if the tone of the show has noticeably changed - it used to not take itself too seriously. Comedy about politics can be done I’m sure (stuff like the Daily Show shows that) – but not sure the Last Leg is any good at doing it.
I'd put most of that down to Adam though - don't think Alex and Josh have changed hugely.

Of the episodes I saw, I thought the best one was definitely the 7th August one - the one the day after the Aussies were out for 60 in the cricket. Seemed far less politics in there than usual, far more light-hearted and far more like what I remember the show being like . Wish the show had been more like that throughout the series.

This series has been a shame – I’ve gone off the show and used to be a big fan of it.

What?

Incredible show so far, rolling around on the floor laughing here. Absolutely tip top comedy. How do they do it? lol.