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The Emmerdale Discussion Thread (Spoilers in tags — Part 15)
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chitarivera
20-09-2015
Did Kath Beedles kill off Matthew King?
I wish he'd been kept in the show. And Carl.
Wyezed
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by chitarivera:
“Did Kath Beedles kill off Matthew King?
I wish he'd been kept in the show. And Carl.”

Anita Turner killed Matthew.
I THINK it was SB that killed Carl, but Tom Lister had made no secret of the fact that he was looking for another job. He'd tweeted about auditions.
CollieWobbles
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by Wyezed:
“Anita Turner killed Matthew.
I THINK it was SB that killed Carl, but Tom Lister had made no secret of the fact that he was looking for another job. He'd tweeted about auditions.”

It was SB that killed Carl off, in the live ep, for shock value. I remember hearing or reading the actor say he hadn't wanted to go and would have stayed for as long as they wanted him.
Andybear
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“It was SB that killed Carl off, in the live ep, for shock value. I remember hearing or reading the actor say he hadn't wanted to go and would have stayed for as long as they wanted him.”

I'm very rarely bothered when soap characters are killed off but Carl King was one of the rare exceptions, he was brilliant and it's a shame his son wasn't in it longer after he was killed off.
Wyezed
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“I'm very rarely bothered when soap characters are killed off but Carl King was one of the rare exceptions, he was brilliant and it's a shame his son wasn't in it longer after he was killed off.”

He would have had to have been instantly recast.
crunchie crisp
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“I'm very rarely bothered when soap characters are killed off but Carl King was one of the rare exceptions, he was brilliant and it's a shame his son wasn't in it longer after he was killed off.”

Yes me as well,Carl getting killed off was terrible and totally finished the Kings as a presence in the village. It turned Jimmy into a stooge character, don't get me wrong I do think Nicola and Jimmy work well together however Jimmy is relegated to the idiot sidekick. The Kings were a very rich and powerful family when they came into the village, they fell too far and too fast. Also forgetting the fact that all the boys except Max had a lot of business experience, but Jimmy is now out manoeuvred by Charity in business
If she was as good as implied, she would have returned to the village last time as a successful businesswoman rather than the runaway bride of a fridge salesman
bornfree
20-09-2015
Shame Carl King was killed.
thejoyof_pat
20-09-2015
Surely in soap law Emma can't get away with her actions of changing a child test results? (Yes I know Rakesh has done the same but have you seen the man's face? - I forgive you) Also why does James still pick his fingers, in the cafe? Gives me the dry boak. Why haven't they taken their 'love' lol and fecked off?
Multimedia81
20-09-2015
Originally Posted by chitarivera:
“And I am not enjoying Adam stomping about the Hospital talking about 'my boy' or calling baby Johnny 'big man.'

No wonder Vanessa ran away.
Having to put up with him being there is enough to drive the poor woman mad.”

Actually, I have another idea as to why Nessa ran away.

Spoiler
She did not have me there to watch Emmerdale and support her.
chitarivera
21-09-2015
I know the guy who played Matthew King wasn't the best actor, but I thought the character was worth keeping.
Same with Carl.
And as crunchie crisp said earlier, the powerful and rich King family fell too far too fast.
chitarivera
21-09-2015
Oh, and Rosemary King.
I wish they'd kept her too.
desperate house
21-09-2015
Originally Posted by chitarivera:
“Oh, and Rosemary King.
I wish they'd kept her too.”

Did she not act the "diva" with the cast and crew so she had to go?

Years ago when I watched ED there was a rule about the soap, anyone who was absolutely rubbish was not kept on too long, the holiday park family was just one example. The EPs seemed to sense when someone wasn't working out and canned them. So why have subsequent producers kept on dead wood?

Blackburn (!!!) with his Amy s/ls was grim, his Jackson and what he wants was even grimmer and his prime position he gave to Val was just dreadful as the woman could only act panto. He seemed to delight in keeping on unwatchable characters and he has done the same in Corrie. Lets hope the new EP at ED will be so much better. We can only hope!
Allasdair
21-09-2015
Originally Posted by chitarivera:
“Oh, and Rosemary King.
I wish they'd kept her too.”

I'll agree. Rosemary was a great character. I know they tried to replace her with Natasha Wylde but that doesn't worked at all.
Allasdair
21-09-2015
Originally Posted by desperate house:
“Did she not act the "diva" with the cast and crew so she had to go?!”

This could give an indication why she had to leave:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN8hOjz5ArY
Wyezed
21-09-2015
Originally Posted by desperate house:
“Did she not act the "diva" with the cast and crew so she had to go?
”

She most definitely did!! With bells on. Hence Kath Beedles having her body dug up and carted off in the rubbish lorry.
chitarivera
21-09-2015
If Twitter is anything to go by, the cast of Corrie are alleged to have cheered out loud when the Stuart Blackburn is leaving announcement was made!!



Yes, Linda Thorson is alleged to have been a nuisance questioning the Directors instructions and wanting to change the script all the time etc - which is fine on a movie or something like that, but it just slows down filming too much on a soap that has to film lots of scenes each day to meet the schedule.
There just isn't time for all that. They just have to be as good as they can be as fast as they can be and get it all done in as few takes as can be otherwise the overtime bill for ITV would be astronomical and everyone would be filming from 7am till 10pm or later everyday.
So Ms Thorson had to go.

It was also rumoured that she was a bit grand.

But theyve been saying that about Barbara Knox on Corrie for years and she's still there. So I think it was the time consuming bahaviour/cost that lost Linda Thorson her job and lost us Rosemary Vienettia King.
Noxy
21-09-2015
Originally Posted by chitarivera:
“It was rumoured that Linda Thorson was a bit grand.

But theyve been saying that about Barbara Knox on Corrie for years and she's still there. So I think it was the time consuming bahaviour/cost that lost Linda Thorson her job and lost us Rosemary Vienettia King.”

True, although to be fair Linda Thorson was centre stage when she was in Emmerdale, whereas Barbara Knox - along with much of the older cast - has moved largely into the background on Corrie.
kwynne42
22-09-2015
Since it took ages to get next weeks spoilers how about the Soaplife spoilers for the week after that straight away

Soaplife Spoilers for the week of 5-9 October

Spoiler
Mon 5 Oct
Adam grows Frustrated when Vanessa goes Missing again, as baby Johnny's health takes a turn for the worse
How will Cain react when Kyle calls him Daddy at Wishing well.?
Pollard tries to cut all ties with David

Tues 6 Oct
Vanessa makes a shocking admission as medics operate on Johnny
With Johnny seriously ill Priya urges Rakesh to tell Kirin he's the Childs father.
Cain has a heart to heart with Debbie about Kyle...will his feeling change?

Wed 7 Oct
News on Roberts Condition causes Mixed Emotions in the Village.
Painfull memories of Son Daniel see Laurel and Ashley share a tender moment
Pete's absence brings Debbie Problems.

Thurs 8 Oct
Andy's actions have serious consequences...
Rakesh attracts the unwanted attentions of a lonely female villager
Jai's drug taking worries Dad Rishi

Fri 9 Oct
Lots happen today ........ Offscreen because of Football

And even further in the future
Another villager is implicated in Robert's shooting... who is it?
Jai's spiralling out of control....
Someone wants to get up close with Andy but are they already attached.

Do we suppose Roberts shooting is like Murder on The Orient Express where everybody did it?


and for you lucky people

The Soaplife spoilers for the week of 28 Sep - Oct 2nd beware the seem very spoilery indeed

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Spoiler
Mon 28 Sep
Suspicions run high in the village with the finger of blame pointing at Aaron, Andy, Chrissie, Lachlan, Lawrence and paddy
A drug Fuelled jai's mood darkens (wish someone would shoot him)
Belle and kirin Discuss having sex

Sidebar the Freeview Epg ep info suggests they do the do

Tues 29 Sep
The Shooting investigation see's Andy being taken in for questioning
Kyle's in danger when Joannie has an accident...is it a wake up call for her (what not to have accidents)
Belle and Kirin decide its time to take their relationship to the next level...

Wed 30 Sept
Thanks to a vindictive Pollard Chrissie is arrested for shooting Robert,
Wracked with guilt, Aaron heads to the scrapyard. to dispose of the gun
Lisa starts to worry as Belle grow increasingly smitten on Kirin

Thu 1 Oct
Lawrence is in pieces over his daughters arrest and takes steps to protect her...
Chas advises a shifty looking Aaron to tell the truth will he listen? (as if says Kwynne)
Cain comes to Son Kyle's rescue

Fri 2 Oct
The Fallout from the Shooting leaves one village family in tatters...
An unhinged Pollard trashes the opening of Davids shop with a sledgehammer
Kerry lets the cat out of the bag when she reveals to Kyle that Cain is his father.
ArtyAttack
22-09-2015
Staying on Spoilers - The Sun has revealed some Christmas and New Year storylines for the Soaps
Spoiler
Zac and Lisa Dingle are destined for a traumatic Christmas with heartbreak on the cards and Bernice will throw a glitzy New Years Eve bash at Home Farm and in typical Dales fashion it promises to be a night to remember.
kwynne42
22-09-2015
Mini Synopisis of Ep
Chrissie had a chat with Rakesh
Lachlan was creepy
Robert told Chrissie he was leaving
He also told his family he wasn't Gay
Victoria was very understanding about the whole thing but talked a just bit too much which caused Andy to work out that Aaron was the last person to speak on the phone to Katie
Priya was unhappy with Rakesh
David moaned a lot
Ross threw his gun in a very shallow river while looking after Moses
And in the type of comedy scene Corrie viewers are probably soon to enjoy Jimmy was menaced comedically by the nephew of the woman who died in his house and had her things stolen,
So Corrie fans you will soon see things like Jimmy and Rodney dithering comedically over how to get the things back
Corrie fans you are sooooooo lucky
Alleycat666
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“Staying on Spoilers - The Sun has revealed some Christmas and New Year storylines for the Soaps
Spoiler
Zac and Lisa Dingle are destined for a traumatic Christmas with heartbreak on the cards and Bernice will throw a glitzy New Years Eve bash at Home Farm and in typical Dales fashion it promises to be a night to remember.
”

Like the sound of the second one of those Arty - not so sure about the first bit though...
chitarivera
22-09-2015
Well what a load of nonsense last night's episode was.

Yet another example of how Jimmy has been turned into a buffoon.

I'm so bored by this storyline now that I can't even remember why he is in financial difficulties.
To remember I'd have to put in some effort and I can't be bothered.


I miss the original Jimmy King and his brothers.
abrightyz
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“Staying on Spoilers - The Sun has revealed some Christmas and New Year storylines for the Soaps
Spoiler
Zac and Lisa Dingle are destined for a traumatic Christmas with heartbreak on the cards and Bernice will throw a glitzy New Years Eve bash at Home Farm and in typical Dales fashion it promises to be a night to remember.
”

Spoiler
so that's why ED is so intent on making bernice/lawrence happen... so she can throw an NYE parteeyyyyy!!!
sheepiefarm
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“Staying on Spoilers - The Sun has revealed some Christmas and New Year storylines for the Soaps
Spoiler
Zac and Lisa Dingle are destined for a traumatic Christmas with heartbreak on the cards and Bernice will throw a glitzy New Years Eve bash at Home Farm and in typical Dales fashion it promises to be a night to remember.
”

That sounds like Bernice
Spoiler
will become Mrs Lawrence White.
If she does - that'll be Kate Oates 11th marriage since she took over
CollieWobbles
22-09-2015
Originally Posted by chitarivera:
“Well what a load of nonsense last nit's episode was.

Yet another example of how Jimmy has been turned into a buffoon.

I'm so bored by this storyline now that I can't even remember why he is in financial difficulties.
To remember I'd have to put in some effort and I can't be bothered.


I miss the original Jimmy King and his brothers.”

I miss the original King family too, Jimmy was quite a ruthless businessman when he first appeared, and quite nasty. Can you imagine the current Jimmy trying to to set someone up, blackmail them for sex then try and force them when they refused?
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