The Emmerdale Discussion Thread (Spoilers in tags — Part 15)

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Glendarroch

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“That old stand by for bad actors when they can't get TV Work - Touring Regional Theatre (see also Carl King), yes not even long run's in big cities, that where bad actors go to scrounge a living on a pittance.”

Spunger????Is that you

??? When I was a kid we used to go and see well established actors perform in the panto at Stirling's only professional theatre

I think up here the actors, regardless of how good they are seem to take any sort of work that's available. I would imagine a touring production would be a good training ground? I've heard some actors bemaning the demise of Rep Theatre, because of the skills they learned in doing a new play every week. I know that's not quite the same as touring with the same play, but surely gaining experience of doing live performance is a good thing? I would imagine there's only a small minority who can be choosy

Personally, I think its great that ED uses mainly decent actors and that regional theatres can afford professional casts.

As for Amy, I liked her after Kyle's birth. She had more depth and was turning into a likeable character. She regressed during the horrible Kyle kidnapping story. I could see Kerry far enough though, with her un-funny, pathetic antics. I hope the

Spoiler

cyrilandshirley

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Soaplife Spoilers for the week of 27-31st July

Spoiler

Mon 27 July
Without his home, business or marriage, Robert starts to scheme...
Val decides to avoid prison by faking her own death... will Eric Support her
Vanessa plans to leave the Village

Tues 28 July
Charity puts more pressure on Ross to destroy Cain and Moira's marriage or risk his secret being exposed to all.
Cain has words of Warning to Chrissie
Debbie asks Ross to Run away with her.

Wed 29 July
Chrissie enlists help in getting rid of the incriminating Photq's of her and Cain, but has she made Matters worse?
Will Debbie Confess all to Pete?
Will Joanie and Rodney get passionate?

Thurs 30 July
A bombshell sees Debbie make a huge decision...
A heartbroken Chrissie makes a drunken pass at a male villager.
Harriet receives worrying news.

Fri 31 July
A worried Debbie tries desperately to avoid more heartache...
Val Continues to plan her own "death" including arrangemnets for a funeral
Zak makes demands on Moira

And even further in the future
As Debbie and Pete's wedding day approaches, will he discover the truth?
Will Val go through with her plan?
A Shocking Disaster hits the village and life will never be the same again...

Last spoiler very exciting

But the 3rd of wednesdays' spoiler makes be feel violently ill.”

Spoiler

Thanks for those.

pegasus2

14-07-2015

Rather awkward surely for Patrick Mower to be involved in a porn s/l seeing as he made one himself a few years ago. Still, a job's a job.

Glendarroch

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“I wonder a bit if it's because they've rewritten Ross's backstory. When they brought him in, he was a well-thought out character, who had gone off the rails because James was a crap Dad who'd treated their Mum badly. Then they changed all that, and James was a good guy (just one who'd shagged, impregnated and stalked Moira) and Emma was the villain who'd tried to kill him as a kid. And now they've forgotten all about that as well. No wonder he's coming over as shallow - they don't know the hell why he is why he is.

He sure does need a kick up the pants though, and

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Cain is the man for the job.

”

I was just thinking he could do with a bit of Zak's parenting

James has been way too understanding

Yes, they've rubbished the character's backstory, so he's coming across like a 14 year old who's angry and contemptuous at the world and takes it out on everyone else, regardless of whether they've done anything to deserve it.

Originally Posted by chitarivera:
“And why hasn't he asked Charity to do a Paternity test on that baby?”

Wouldn't YOU trust Charity's word?

cyrilandshirley

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“I was just thinking he could do with a bit of Zak's parenting James has been way too understanding

Yes, they've rubbished the character's backstory, so he's coming across like a 14 year old who's angry and contemptuous at the world and takes it out on everyone else, regardless of whether they've done anything to deserve it.
Wouldn't YOU trust Charity's word?”

Of the Extreme Parenting Zak-Cain type?

Probably, yes.

sheepiefarm

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by chitarivera:
“And why hasn't he asked Charity to do a Paternity test on that baby?”

Why bother involving Charity - the kid's already in the village - just get one of them do-it-yourself DNA kits (like everyone else has done)

Glendarroch

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“Of the Extreme Parenting Zak-Cain type? Probably, yes.”

Oh yeah, I don't mean Zak's understanding, kindly approach that he takes with Belle. James has been doing that for 20 odd years. It worked for Pete and Finn, but not Ross

I don't agree with Zak's patented 'how to raise a lad' technique in general, but Ross could do with it

desperate house

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by Andybear:
“A shag is still a shag regardless of the reason for it. If a sympathy shag didn't count loads of people who cheat on their partners would say, 'he/she was upset and I was just being symathetic so it doesn't count as cheating'. Yeh, right. There are other ways to be sympathetic.”

I was actually joking.

kwynne42

14-07-2015

Mini Synopsis
Carly needs money
Ross needs to hit somebody
Dan sings badly
Debbie want in Ross's pants so she does.
Bob worries about money while Brenda spends it.
Kirin rents a place from Eric with Rakesh's own money
Tracey the porns stars video is Watched by Bernice and Hooker hypocrite Rodney
Rodney wants tracey Sacked for doing more or less on film what he was doing in real life yet he thinks that makes tracy unemployable by he works for the same firm
Tracy Proves good at hiring staff
Ross and Carly robs and beats up foreign truck driver but Carly feels much Guilt
and most shockingly of all Tracey DIDN'T get the blame for the robbery, felt sure she would get the blame for setting it up even though she wasn't involved.

desperate house

14-07-2015

I didn't find last night's episode very entertaining. Far too much Ross for starters.

Good news though

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Andybear

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by desperate house:
“I was actually joking.”

I didn't know that as there was nothing in your post to indicate it, ie no smiley or anything. That's the trouble with on line forums - you can't see body language or hear inflections and tones of voice so posts can easily be misunderstood.

crunchie crisp

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by chitarivera:
“And why hasn't he asked Charity to do a Paternity test on that baby?”

DNA testing seems to be a deep secret, known only to certain villager. The ones with half a brain

desperate house

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by Andybear:
“I didn't know that as there was nothing in your post to indicate it, ie no smiley or anything. That's the trouble with on line forums - you can't see body language or hear inflections and tones of voice so posts can easily be misunderstood.”

OK, I hate the "new" smileys so I rarely use them except for the "grin" or the "Eek" ones.

Andybear

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“Spunger????Is that you??? When I was a kid we used to go and see well established actors perform in the panto at Stirling's only professional theatre I think up here the actors, regardless of how good they are seem to take any sort of work that's available. I would imagine a touring production would be a good training ground? I've heard some actors bemaning the demise of Rep Theatre, because of the skills they learned in doing a new play every week. I know that's not quite the same as touring with the same play, but surely gaining experience of doing live performance is a good thing? I would imagine there's only a small minority who can be choosy

Personally, I think its great that ED uses mainly decent actors and that regional theatres can afford professional casts.

As for Amy, I liked her after Kyle's birth. She had more depth and was turning into a likeable character. She regressed during the horrible Kyle kidnapping story. I could see Kerry far enough though, with her un-funny, pathetic antics. I hope the

Spoiler

potential sinkhole swallows her

”

I agree with what you say about professional actors doing theatre. I don't like the way a lot of people, including on this forum, see theatre work as a come-down from TV work, the way they look down on the actors - I won't name names on this forum but they know who they are. Some people who've previously acted in the theatre might try TV work, decide they don't like it and go back to theatre work. Quite often performances I see in theatres are far better than a lot of TV programmes!

kwynne42

14-07-2015

Splutters in horror at being compared to Spunger

Take it back

Amy was fine for 10 minutes in her very first episode then it all went wrong, very wrong.

sheepiefarm

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“Well there were some lead up scenes, where Lawrence was clearly not keen on the marriage, and some hints that he might fancy Robert, but yep, it was mainly one (very good) scene. And then they ditched it really. I'm still convinced they changed the whole White family trajectory to fit in Robert's dalliance with Aaron. Lawrence has honestly had almost nothing to do, which is weird for a high profile casting.

It's a shame - I'm sure they meant to do more with their mutual hostility. That's why I hope they revisit Lawrence's past in some form.”

Just had a thought.....
Once Robert's "sexuality" is out in the open - and he's completely blown it with Chrissie - wouldn't it be kinda fun to see him try to charm his way into Lawrence's "affections" for the sake of hanging on to a wealthy lifestyle

Please make it happen ED - if only to see Aaron's face when he discovers Robert is two-timing him with Lawrence

Janet Plank

14-07-2015

Ross is the most boring character in Emmerdale; all he does is bash people on the head, steal vehicles and have sex with anything that is passing. It is strange that assaulting people and thieving is not against the law in Emmerdale village, so there are no repercussions for him. I have heard a rumour, only a rumour you understand, that there is a dedicated ward in Hotton General for dealing with bashed heads.

sheepiefarm

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by Janet Plank:
“Ross is the most boring character in Emmerdale; all he does is bash people on the head, steal vehicles and have sex with anything that is passing. It is strange that assaulting people and thieving is not against the law in Emmerdale village, so there are no repercussions for him. I have heard a rumour, only a rumour you understand, that there is a dedicated ward in Hotton General for dealing with bashed heads.”

Yes - it's right next door to the Emmerdale Ward - they keep one reserved especially for the village - cos every week someone has to get rushed to it.

ArtyAttack

14-07-2015

Some exciting stuff ahead.

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ArtyAttack

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“The thing with Ross is that there's no sense of anything else going on with him. With villains like Cain and Robert you know there is, even though it's often very subtly done. Is this the fault of the actor or the writers I wonder? Ross leaving that innocent man for dead, and being shocked at Carly-s concern, for a bit of money. was even colder than Robert's attitude to Katie's death. Is he really so stupid that he doesn't realise the driver could be dead? It wasn't even like he lost his temper and went too far! He was calm about it! Other people's lives are very cheap to Ross.All because of his 'great love for Debbie' which has absolutely nothing to do with her being Pete's fiancee. Still

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he's going to mess with Moira and Cain, after Moira has done nothing but be good to him, so hopefully he'll get what's coming. He scares easily, so with a bit of luck Cain can put the fear of God into him without killing the little s***. I don't want Cain to regress.

”

Totally agree. He was like one of those robots in Humans. No emotion whatsoever. Yet when he is involved in one of his sordid relionships he gets all tearful and moody. Why should the viewer care if Ross experiences loss or hardship when he could not give a fig for anyone else round him? The old man he left in a coma with potential brain damage which was never resolved is a case in point.

cyrilandshirley

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by sheepiefarm:
“Just had a thought.....
Once Robert's "sexuality" is out in the open - and he's completely blown it with Chrissie - wouldn't it be kinda fun to see him try to charm his way into Lawrence's "affections" for the sake of hanging on to a wealthy lifestyle

Please make it happen ED - if only to see Aaron's face when he discovers Robert is two-timing him with Lawrence ”

Surely even Lawrence isn't daft enough to fall for that again. Though I sometimes wonder if Larry is anybody's for a glass of vino tinto. And it does remind me that when I first heard Aaron was coming back, I wanted him to become Lawrence's toyboy, so he could live at the manor and be the new Charity. Could still happen.

Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“Some exciting stuff ahead.

Spoiler

Chrissie makes a pass at Andy.

”

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samcains90

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Big Disaster which I didn't believe in until now is a lot earlier than October, Its in the what next section of the Soaplife spoilers so in the next month. The Sun this morning says lots of people are going to die, hope its the right ones.”

Yeah, I know the disaster is August.

I think Robert is going to survive the disaster and suffer in whatever comes later in the year (which will no doubt be during anniversary week)

I hope they kill off the right ones too.

Alleycat666

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by ArtyAttack:
“Some exciting stuff ahead.

Spoiler

Chrissie makes a pass at Andy.

”

Spoiler

kwynne42

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by samcains90:
“Yeah, I know the disaster is August.

I think Robert is going to survive the disaster and suffer in whatever comes later in the year (which will no doubt be during anniversary week)

I hope they kill off the right ones too. ”

They are doing 2 disasters this year?

samcains90

14-07-2015

Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“They are doing 2 disasters this year?”

I'm not saying there will be two disasters, I'm saying there will be a big storyline during anniversary week, not a disaster.

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