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Old 27-06-2015, 20:21
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It's not the adultery that bothers me in the 'relationship' its the fact Robert is a nasty, evil, scheming little rat who couldn't give two monkeys about anyone but his self!! I am no fan of Aaron but he's worth a thousand Roberts.
Robert has tried to kill Aaron's mother, blackmail and (pathetically) threaten to kill Aaron's uncle and next week he leaves Aaron's father figure to die. How on earth anyone see's anything in this 'relationship' (from Roberts side) is beyond me
Gosh, you make Rob sound so appealing! Lol
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Old 27-06-2015, 20:25
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If you were talking about a situation in real life I would agree with you but it's telly. If all the characters were decent and nice there wouldn't be anything to watch. I don't take it that seriously that it would disgust me!

No. I tell a lie. Jai disgusts me!
My god, I DETEST Jai

A million times worse than Robert!!

Gosh, you make Rob sound so appealing! Lol
Come on he's a pretty nasty character.. and I like Debbie fgs
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Old 27-06-2015, 20:58
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I'm afraid i never liked Jackson that much. For me, he always had a bit of an attitude and when he was dismissive of Aaron's distress over losing his dog I went right off him(I would have dumped him right then!) On the night of the accident he went off like a brat(leaving Aaron in the dark on a road) because Aaron wouldn't tell him he loved him; well boo-hoo. I utterly hate it when someone pressures you into telling them that you love them(when you're obviously not ready). And I hate it even more when they throw their toys out and bugger off and leave you because they didn't get the answer they wanted to hear.(I speak from experience). I can't comment on Jackson post accident because I found it too depressing to watch(I had enough to be depressed about in my life at the time).

If Rob and Aaron aren't paired up then I'm fine with it as long as they don't kill off Robert. I think it'll be a shame because I think they would make a good couple in the long run but if it's not to be then fine. I know loads of people hate Robert but I find him fun to watch and I'm sure it wouldn't take him long to find someone else
I was no great fan of Jackson myself - and thought the "relationship" should have ended the night when the crash happened - the storyline after that was all a bit contrived..
However, the narrative was definitely played along the lines that Aaron was "in love" with Jackson (whether it was believable or not) - so any notion that Aaron "needs" a bad boy to be in love with, goes completely against the previous history of the character, and, I'll say again, is only spouted by those who are desperately shipping this pairing.


I'm no fan of Robron - because the storyline has been rubbish.
I think Robert is an interesting character as the slimy manipulating person he is (though they've made him a bit too pantomime now which is making him a bit ridiculous)
I've no desire to see him killed off - I think there's a fair bit of mileage in him yet.

As for the "love-story" between him & Robert - well, it completely beggars belief!
IF Aaron is still in love with him or forgives him for trying to kill Paddy - then the show has completely lost any sense of integrity or reality and is rapidly heading down the Hollyoaks route of ridiculousness (and look where it's ratings are heading)

Robert not being part of the Home Farm set-up will make him as dull & boring as Cain playing happy families with Moira. They've finally seen sense with Cain & resurrected more of "old style" Cain, because, whilst the "Coira" fans were loving NuCain, he had become boring to a wider more general audience - you only have to see the reaction to bad boy Cain (and the viewing figures for the Thursday double ep - first time it's increased it's audience for the 2nd ep in weeks).

It's one thing pandering to fanbases who want this, that & the other for their "fave character/couple - but most of those fanbases live in cloud cuckoo land & generally form only a small part of the audience.
Storylines have to hold some sort of integrity to appeal to the wider general public - gay pairing storylines should not be an exception.


Hollyoaks pandered to the Brendan Brady fan club to the point where the show practically revolved around that character - to the detriment of everything else on the show - now Brendan Brady has gone & the show is in a dire mess.


Robert has treated Aaron with no more thought, care or attention than he has Chrissie - and whilst the "appreciation" thread fans will twist every little detail to suit their "version" of events and only see what they want to see - and that's not hard to do since the show itself has deliberately kept everything vague & undefined - (all the better to bait the fans on social media that way) - take a step back and see the narrative for what it is - see it the way a general audience who don't analyse every last look or word see it.


Robert is a manipulator and an opportunist - who happens to bed guys as well as girls.
Aaron has deluded himself that Robert is only like that because he's afraid to admit he's a closet gay.
Aaron loves Robert for who he thinks he sees - not for who he is.

Hopefully the scales will fall from Aaron's eyes when he finds out Robert tried to kill Paddy for no other reason than to save his "marriage to Chrissie"

Anything less than that outcome and a general audience will roll their eyes in disbelief - and the show will end up going down the same silly ridiculous plot driven, stunt orientated, sensationalist route that Hollyoaks has done.


We're already half-way there with their weekly "someone in a life or death situation" plotlines & everyone cheating on everyone else.
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Old 27-06-2015, 23:14
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Come on he's a pretty nasty character.. and I like Debbie fgs
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Old 28-06-2015, 04:13
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I was no great fan of Jackson myself - and thought the "relationship" should have ended the night when the crash happened - the storyline after that was all a bit contrived..
However, the narrative was definitely played along the lines that Aaron was "in love" with Jackson (whether it was believable or not) - so any notion that Aaron "needs" a bad boy to be in love with, goes completely against the previous history of the character, and, I'll say again, is only spouted by those who are desperately shipping this pairing.
I only watched up to the accident and a few episodes after, but up to then I didn't see that Aaron was in love with him. Jackson from what I can remember made Aaron feel guilty for not being in love with him. Did Aaron really fall in love with Jackson afterwards or was it a case of guilt, loyalty and emotional attachment? I dont know because i didn't see it! From what I remember though Aaron didn't have a bloody thing to be guilty about!
I don't think Aaron 'needs' a bad boy. In the post to Mark, I said Aaron needs Rob so Aaron has a reason to cry! (Aaron's not Aaron if he's not bawling his eyes out, bless him)
Aaron's only had two boyfriends before this affair with Rob. It's not a long dating history.
I think it's fitting because it's son taking after Mother. Chas had Carl who Aaron hated and now it's the other way round.

I'm no fan of Robron - because the storyline has been rubbish.
I think Robert is an interesting character as the slimy manipulating person he is (though they've made him a bit too pantomime now which is making him a bit ridiculous)
I've no desire to see him killed off - I think there's a fair bit of mileage in him yet.
Well I think their storyline could've been done a lot better! It's been disjointed and repetitive and they've had Rob doing some daft things! I do see him as something of a pantomime villain too and that's probably why I don't take him all that seriously! He's threatened to kill pretty much everyone, but other than poor Katie landing on a dodgy floorboard, they've all survived so I just look forward to him cocking up another poorly thought out scheme of his!

As for the "love-story" between him & Robert - well, it completely beggars belief!
IF Aaron is still in love with him or forgives him for trying to kill Paddy - then the show has completely lost any sense of integrity or reality and is rapidly heading down the Hollyoaks route of ridiculousness (and look where it's ratings are heading)
Well I've never watched Hollyoaks so I can't compare but I do think Emmerdale is a bit extreme at times. But other characters have done things that seem unforgivable at the time but later on all is forgiven and it's never mentioned again. Is it really supposed to be a love story at the moment though? Isn't it more about two people who've got an intense attraction to one another and simply can't leave it alone? If Rob survives the summer (and doesn't actually murder anyone!) and Aaron can forgive him for whatever he does next then maybe(in the future) it could be a love story.

Robert not being part of the Home Farm set-up will make him as dull & boring as Cain playing happy families with Moira. They've finally seen sense with Cain & resurrected more of "old style" Cain, because, whilst the "Coira" fans were loving NuCain, he had become boring to a wider more general audience - you only have to see the reaction to bad boy Cain (and the viewing figures for the Thursday double ep - first time it's increased it's audience for the 2nd ep in weeks).
Well we'll have to see what happens! If something happens to Chrissie this summer Rob may end up in a fight with Lawrence over her money. Or he may end up back at the pub! I don't think him losing Home Farm will necessarily make him less interesting, it will just take a bit of getting used to. If Emmerdale want him back in the money they'll find a way for him. I would actually like to see him properly bond with his brother and sister. I wouldn't mind seeing him live with Andy for a bit.
I've loved Cain this week and I've loved his scenes with Robert!

It's one thing pandering to fanbases who want this, that & the other for their "fave character/couple - but most of those fanbases live in cloud cuckoo land & generally form only a small part of the audience.
Storylines have to hold some sort of integrity to appeal to the wider general public - gay pairing storylines should not be an exception.
Do they really pander to fan bases? If they did I think the storyline would have been done a lot differently. They would be married with two kids and a dog by now!

Hollyoaks pandered to the Brendan Brady fan club to the point where the show practically revolved around that character - to the detriment of everything else on the show - now Brendan Brady has gone & the show is in a dire mess.
I've never watched it so I'll have to take your word for it. It's never a good thing when one character keeps popping up into every scene. Especially if you don't like that character.

Robert has treated Aaron with no more thought, care or attention than he has Chrissie - and whilst the "appreciation" thread fans will twist every little detail to suit their "version" of events and only see what they want to see - and that's not hard to do since the show itself has deliberately kept everything vague & undefined - (all the better to bait the fans on social media that way) - take a step back and see the narrative for what it is - see it the way a general audience who don't analyse every last look or word see it.
Rob's had a few moments when he's shown some concern for Aaron! He gave him a hug when Cain was ill. What more do you want?
I think people who are watching Emmerdale only for their storyline will see a lot more! And they can see whatever that want to see, it's all a bit of fun!
I don't have a problem with Emmerdale making Rob's feelings about Aaron ambiguous. They have to use a few tricks to keep people interested, and it's worked to a certain extent. Many though won't care less if he cares for him or not but then not everyone loves the same storyline.

Robert is a manipulator and an opportunist - who happens to bed guys as well as girls.
Aaron has deluded himself that Robert is only like that because he's afraid to admit he's a closet gay.
Aaron loves Robert for who he thinks he sees - not for who he is.
I guess we'll soon find out!

Hopefully the scales will fall from Aaron's eyes when he finds out Robert tried to kill Paddy for no other reason than to save his "marriage to Chrissie"
They may do. Or maybe Rob will come up with another cunning plan!

Anything less than that outcome and a general audience will roll their eyes in disbelief - and the show will end up going down the same silly ridiculous plot driven, stunt orientated, sensationalist route that Hollyoaks has done.
We'll have to wait and see how it plays out. It's hard to judge something that hasn't happened yet

We're already half-way there with their weekly "someone in a life or death situation" plotlines & everyone cheating on everyone else.
I wouldn't mind fewer visits to the hospital! Although I must admit I wouldn't mind seeing Paddy in a neck brace; and all his limbs in big plaster casts!
Maybe once the 'summer stunt' is out the way, it will calm down a bit. But I am looking forward to it! The build up, the actual event and the fallout.
But If Rob gets himself blown-up, I may find it a tad disappointing

Wow! That was one long post sheepiefarm!
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Old 28-06-2015, 09:06
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I'd say the fact that there is so much heated discussion about Robert's character proves that his story is well written.
Soaps are not portrayals of real life by any stretch of the imagination, they are here to entertain. And let's face it, we are not only entertained by the characters and storylines we love, but also by those we hate with a passion.

Robert has obviously succeeded in creating a strong following, partly consisting of Robron shippers, partly of people who enjoy his scheming bad-boy nature, and partly of people who cannot wait for him to meet a gruesome end one lovely Summer's eve.
What more could the writers want?

I personally don't want him to go, I hugely enjoy the character, and I also find the Aaron/Robert story convincing by soap standards.
If Ross, Jai, Cain, Emma, Charity and everyone else can get away with their selfish crimes, I don't see why Robert should be any different.
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Old 28-06-2015, 13:15
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I liked the actor who played Robert before this guy was cast.
And I was sorry to see the character go.
So, I was really happy to hear Robert was coming back and I think the Casting Department have made a very good choice with the 'new' Robert.

I really enjoy watching him.

I don't really care much for the Aaron character.
I think it might be because of the actor.

He hasn't succeeded in making me feel that he is in love with either Jackson or Robert.
I did feel a twinge of chemistry between him and Adam on a few occasions, but I think that might be because both lads are mates offscreen rather than because of any acting talent on either side.
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Old 28-06-2015, 17:54
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I liked the actor who played Robert before this guy was cast.
And I was sorry to see the character go.
So, I was really happy to hear Robert was coming back and I think the Casting Department have made a very good choice with the 'new' Robert.

I really enjoy watching him.


I don't really care much for the Aaron character.
I think it might be because of the actor.

He hasn't succeeded in making me feel that he is in love with either Jackson or Robert.
I did feel a twinge of chemistry between him and Adam on a few occasions, but I think that might be because both lads are mates offscreen rather than because of any acting talent on either side.
I could not agree more. The casting has been spot on. I am glad Ryan Hawley auditioned for the character of Robert. I couldn't imagine anyone else playing him now.

I think Danny is decent enough at acting. I do not think he can cry to be honest, but he seems good enough at other parts of acting. He is better than some on soap right now. Ryan and Danny do work well together.
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Old 28-06-2015, 17:55
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Old 28-06-2015, 18:11
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chita, great post! I am enjoying watching Ryan Hawley, and hope he will be around for quite some time (but I doubt it)

And you said something reasonably nice about Adam!!!!
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Old 28-06-2015, 18:42
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I could not agree more. The casting has been spot on. I am glad Ryan Hawley auditioned for the character of Robert. I couldn't imagine anyone else playing him now.

I think Danny is decent enough at acting. I do not think he can cry to be honest, but he seems good enough at other parts of acting. He is better than some on soap right now. Ryan and Danny do work well together.
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Old 28-06-2015, 18:56
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Would an actor in Emmerdale consider going to Corrie a step up?
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Old 28-06-2015, 20:03
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Would an actor in Emmerdale consider going to Corrie a step up?
He could pretend to be someone's son for no logical reason

Saying that, the Jenny Bradley story was good but Corrie's not great atm.
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Old 28-06-2015, 20:25
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I remember Jeff Hordley in Corrie for a few episodes before he joined ED. He played a really geeky character in running some kind of am-dram local production that Roy and Hayley were interested in.

You wouldn't recognise as the smoking hot villain he is now...Sorry Corrie, you had your chance.
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Old 28-06-2015, 20:38
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chita, great post! I am enjoying watching Ryan Hawley, and hope he will be around for quite some time (but I doubt it)

And you said something reasonably nice about Adam!!!!
That is my thoughts too. One of the strongest actors on the show, yet Emmerdale will lose him, because they have turned the Robert character into a killer. Such a shame. I am going to be genuinely gutted when Ryan leaves the show. For me, he has made Robert his own character. Ryan is up there with Jeff Hordley for acting.
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Old 28-06-2015, 20:40
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Would an actor in Emmerdale consider going to Corrie a step up?
I would laugh if Stuart Blackburn asked Jeff Hordley to consider Coronation Street, with Jeff telling him where to stick it. After all, Stuart did dump Emmerdale for Coronation Street. He has a cheek to consider poaching actors and actresses from Emmerdale.
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Old 28-06-2015, 21:11
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Would an actor in Emmerdale consider going to Corrie a step up?
WHY???????????????
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Old 28-06-2015, 21:12
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I remember Jeff Hordley in Corrie for a few episodes before he joined ED. He played a really geeky character in running some kind of am-dram local production that Roy and Hayley were interested in.

You wouldn't recognise as the smoking hot villain he is now...Sorry Corrie, you had your chance.
I remember it too
He says that he hated that job because the director told him to be really camp and he thought it was too OTT I like Corrie but it can be SO cliched
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Old 28-06-2015, 21:34
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I remember it too
He says that he hated that job because the director told him to be really camp and he thought it was too OTT I like Corrie but it can be SO cliched
Shame it's not on YouTube
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Old 29-06-2015, 00:35
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I would laugh if Stuart Blackburn asked Jeff Hordley to consider Coronation Street, with Jeff telling him where to stick it. After all, Stuart did dump Emmerdale for Coronation Street. He has a cheek to consider poaching actors and actresses from Emmerdale.
I wouldn't worry. He was asked which characters he would like to poach, not actors. He could hardly stick Jeff Hordley in Coronation Street as Cain Dingle, or Shirley Stelfox as Edna. He would never get away with it.
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Old 29-06-2015, 08:48
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chita, great post! I am enjoying watching Ryan Hawley, and hope he will be around for quite some time (but I doubt it)

And you said something reasonably nice about Adam!!!!


I dissed his acting.
I wasn't THAT reasonable.

I still dislike the 'orrible oik.


And if he's the father of Charity's baby, I won't be very happy!!!!
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Old 29-06-2015, 11:19
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I dissed his acting.
I wasn't THAT reasonable.

I still dislike the 'orrible oik.


And if he's the father of Charity's baby, I won't be very happy!!!!
But poor Adam will have 'lost' a baby when it comes out Nessa's isn't his
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Old 29-06-2015, 12:23
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I wouldn't worry. He was asked which characters he would like to poach, not actors. He could hardly stick Jeff Hordley in Coronation Street as Cain Dingle, or Shirley Stelfox as Edna. He would never get away with it.
Still it was a nice compliment to both actors. I bet he'd be interested if they were looking
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Old 29-06-2015, 13:20
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A few articles floating about online see to be "confirming" a live ep, but nothing has been released by ED HQ so I'm not sure how true that will be.

A journalist also said on Twitter that show bosses are not yet sure where to take the character of Robert..... so that speaks to me that he still has a future at ED so may survive the summer. I'd bet my house on him getting injured in some way, but I think he'll survive.
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Old 29-06-2015, 13:35
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Duncan from Metro confirmed that there is no live episode, he double checked with someone from the Emmerdale team himself, seems the UnrealityTV writer got her facts wrong.
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