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The Emmerdale Discussion Thread (Spoilers in tags — Part 15)
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ianradioian
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Diane was horrible during that stuff with Chrissie, maybe the actress is losing it in her old age. Megan was good when her true love was on the show but she serves little purpose now. Isabelle Hodgins is not a good actress and has proven that many times, it has nothing to do with Aaron's sexy BFF and I might be being too hard on Sam, I just can't see the character carrying a major story.”

Sam has been in ED for so long now hes sort of replaced the Seth Armstrong character ( you wont know him as he was in it from the 70s up to around 2005 ( lovely character) and although he is always involved in all the episodes so along with any Sugden, is one of the old school characters now
Mark_Washingto1
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by ianradioian:
“Sam has been in ED for so long now hes sort of replaced the Seth Armstrong character ( you wont know him as he was in it from the 70s up to around 2005 ( lovely character) and although he is always involved in all the episodes so along with any Sugden, is one of the old school characters now”

Oh I've seen a few clips of Sam and can see the similarities, I really don't have a problem with Sam, I just can't see him carrying a major story.
albiex
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“Oh I've seen a few clips of Sam and can see the similarities, I really don't have a problem with Sam, I just can't see him carrying a major story.”

He already has.
James Hooton is one of the best actors in the programme. He doesn't sound, act or even look like Sam in real life.
Mark_Washingto1
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by albiex:
“He already has.
James Hooton is one of the best actors in the programme. He doesn't sound, act or even look like Sam in real life.”

I didn't say he wasn't a good actor I can't see the CHARACTER of Sam carrying a major story.
al_capo
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“I didn't say he wasn't a good actor I can't see the CHARACTER of Sam carrying a major story.”

Sam already has though.
Mark_Washingto1
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“Sam already has though.”

I know he's had some stories but he's hardly been a major daily player like Aaron, Cain, Ross or Debbie
sorcha_healy27
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“I know he's had some stories but he's hardly been a major daily player like Aaron, Cain, Ross or Debbie”

His storyline with his wife Alice was one of Emmerdale's best. Sam is one of the best actors in the show.
Mark_Washingto1
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“His storyline with his wife Alice was one of Emmerdale's best. Sam is one of the best actors in the show.”

I didn't mean to insult the actor, I have no problem with his acting I just can't see Sam carrying a major story like Aaron, Cain or Debbie would.
penelope_smith
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“His storyline with his wife Alice was one of Emmerdale's best. Sam is one of the best actors in the show.”

Yes Sorcha Sam without the make-up is an incredibly handsome man,,,,He speaks beautifully, Was my pleasure to have met him(before I knew he was Sam)
xx
sorcha_healy27
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by penelope_smith:
“Yes Sorcha Sam without the make-up is an incredibly handsome man,,,,He speaks beautifully, Was my pleasure to have met him(before I knew he was Sam)
xx”

That's nice to hear penelope
sorcha_healy27
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“I didn't mean to insult the actor, I have no problem with his acting I just can't see Sam carrying a major story like Aaron, Cain or Debbie would.”

I didn't think you were insulting him at all
al_capo
08-12-2016
Did anyone get a tad excited when LIv said "Aaron is dead" unfortunately the next word was "busy".
albiex
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“Did anyone get a tad excited when LIv said "Aaron is dead" unfortunately the next word was "busy". ”

Some script editing needed.
cyrilandshirley
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“His storyline with his wife Alice was one of Emmerdale's best. Sam is one of the best actors in the show.”

It really was. He hasn't had a really big story for a long time, but when he's given something good to do, he really delivers. His scene with Ronnie the other day, where he talked about Alice, was really good.

I don't buy this argument that some characters are so big they should be front and centre all the time. The best stories can bring someone forward and really surprise you. Adam can be really good when he needs to be, for example. He was great in that stuff with Johnny.
Carolyn_Brown
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by wuffles:
“With regard to Belle's conviction, I thought that anything committed while a person was under 18 was considered 'spent' when they reached adulthood?”

If you are under 18 a period of five years should have elapsed
List of crimes are -
◾Crimes against the person such as murder, manslaughter, rape, gross indecency, serious assaults, kidnapping
◾Crimes against property such as arson, burglary, theft, robbery, fraud, receiving stolen property
◾Crimes against government authority such as benefit fraud, tax evasion, bribery, perjury

Also even if Jermaine has been offered a job surely he has to apply for a visa as he's going for longer than 90 days so surely she will as she will be living with him. They only announced it last week and I assume in soapland they will have be at the airport next week hotly pursued by the Dingles of course.
Teifiboi
08-12-2016
Originally Posted by Carolyn_Brown:
“If you are under 18 a period of five years should have elapsed
List of crimes are -
◾Crimes against the person such as murder, manslaughter, rape, gross indecency, serious assaults, kidnapping
◾Crimes against property such as arson, burglary, theft, robbery, fraud, receiving stolen property
◾Crimes against government authority such as benefit fraud, tax evasion, bribery, perjury

Also even if Jermaine has been offered a job surely he has to apply for a visa as he's going for longer than 90 days so surely she will as she will be living with him. They only announced it last week and I assume in soapland they will have be at the airport next week hotly pursued by the Dingles of course.”

With regard to Belle's US visa (not that she needs one now, of course), it'll be the USA rules on whether a conviction is spent or not, rather than UK rules, that will matter, whatever they happen to be.
kwynne42
09-12-2016
Analysis of Emmerdale Characters

1) Ashley - Acting masterclass going on here from John Middleton, he is absolutely brilliant and can't get enough praise. Sadly he won't get any awards because they are given to crap actors like Aaron/Danny Miller who deserves none, bah humbug that makes me beyond furious

2) It must be said that Laurel is being played really well at present as well

But who is looking after baby Dottie and does Emmerdale even remember she exists

3) Poor mixed up messed up Gabby no wonder she goes off the rails so often, not going to find h being an internet star to easy either

And Gabby ruined yet another of laurels shoes.

4) Sandy was funny trying to get a free drink out of Charity

5) Liv isn't bad just misguided, liked Belle trying to tell her all the things she did at 15

6) Is Bernice calling the police on herself she is such a terrible mother.

7) Aaron and Robert even though they knew what had happened didn't bother tryand find Liv did they?

8) Belle now has the supposed wisdom of the ages.

9) Lisa dear you will be far better off when Joanie and Zak are away in the far off Land known as Leeds.

10 Stop trying to pair of Paddy on other people Rhona

11) The Cockatoo was way funnier than paddy and Chas

12) The Jury is back in with the final verdict and Kasim is guilty of being a terrible actor, gave him a chance and he proved his awfulness

13) Shut up Finn

14) Nice to see harriet

15) Blimey Eric had more than 3 sentences in a episode when was the last time that happened

16 how to tell the difference between Brenda and an Inflatable Santa, Santa is more of a character.

Ways how to Killie Joanie,- when Kasim dumps Finn for the 59th time in six episodes he goes berserk and locks her in the Pirate Ship with Aaron and kerry and drives his taxi through it several times killing them
penelope_smith
09-12-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“That's nice to hear penelope ”

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He is proof of being a superb actor,,,,,,,,,,,Usually actors are vane and will not be changed..especially as much has the Sam actor has,,,,,,,,,,xx
ianradioian
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Analysis of Emmerdale Characters

1) Ashley - Acting masterclass going on here from John Middleton, he is absolutely brilliant and can't get enough praise. Sadly he won't get any awards because they are given to crap actors like Aaron/Danny Miller who deserves none, bah humbug that makes me beyond furious

2) It must be said that Laurel is being played really well at present as well



Ways how to Killie Joanie,- when Kasim dumps Finn for the 59th time in six episodes he goes berserk and locks her in the Pirate Ship with Aaron and kerry and drives his taxi through it several times killing them”

Ashley & Laurel are both acted so well; although the scripts are wobbly lately, what they are given to work with they work it very well. The two of them are by far the best actors in soap as a soap couple.


I like the latest ' ways to kill' instalment, kwynne
Glendarroch
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by Teifiboi:
“With regard to Belle's US visa (not that she needs one now, of course), it'll be the USA rules on whether a conviction is spent or not, rather than UK rules, that will matter, whatever they happen to be.”

I looked up the US immigration website, which said that they take convictions into account, regardless of whether the ' home' nation considers them spent. I don't think it's an automatic refusal but it would be taken I to consideration.
kwynne42
13-12-2016
Analysis of Emmerdale Characters

bit of a so so episode

1) Ashley or what remains of him hurt himself while locked up, now i'm no expert i'm sure everyone will agree but would someone with dementia not stop when they started feeling pain, or don't such people understand what pain is anymore>

2 Laurel dear stop locking Ashley in his room its only causing you terrible guilt as well as harming poor Ashley.

3) Gabby Being Bullied by nasty bullies who live in the village but we have never seen before

4) Liv defended her friend and then got shouted at by tear filled Aarsewipe

5) Jacob bratface don't ever listen to Frank.

6) Frank - I agree with Leyla he should be ousted immediately

7) Leyla and Vanessa, plot away girls plot away

8) Victoria baby and sex obsessed at present

9) No wonder Adam went and hid in a celebrity Jungle.

10 Moira completely under the influence of Emma currently

11) Zak dear turning up at the farm and ordering the joint owners of the farm to go home is hardly the way to go about things is it.

Ways how to Kill Frank

No.3
Frank is the experiment of Aliens who decide he is a failure and vapourize him, before they leave they blow up Tracy, Joannie and Kerry with their laser
kwynne42
20-12-2016
Analysis of Emmerdale Characters

1) Before I get onto more decent storylines and characters I must officially declare I have joined the anti Tracy camp. She is here just to bore us with rubbish storylines and to make up the numbers, I used to like her but now I don't.

2) David see above for same reasons

3) Laurel dear perhaps Hugging the Moron in full view of Ashley was very stupid indeed, poor man is confused enough without reminding him of the other worst part of his life.

4) Go away Moron you are not need here

5) Poor Ashley he's having an awful time, and very scared about never knowing what's really going on, not helped by Laurel being stupid, no wonder he got angry and went walkabout. Did no one in the hospital stop the confused looking man in pajamas .

6) Diane they gave you one job.

7)Moira well on the way to ending up a wino drinking on a park bench somewhere, has completely cracked up from grief.

8) Nice to see Charity even though she did appear to be more pregnant than the actress expecting twins standing right next to her.

9) Pete and Leyla make such a tepid couple, chemistry free.

10) Bernice tried to make up with her sister heaven knows why.

11) Nicola dear why are you looking after all of Jimmy's kids.

12) Zak didn't want to be santa what a scrooge.

13) Lisa - shut up Lisa

14) Rishi couldn't you do better than Zak for santa?

Ways how to shut up Brenda. no,1123

The men with the white coats thinks she's mad and section her and lock her up in a straightJacket in a padded room where she can chatter boringly to her hearts content with harming anyone else's ears
Gulftastic
20-12-2016
John Middleton appeared on This Morning today.

From what was said, tonight's episode is going to be a tough and heartbreaking watch.
Glendarroch
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by Gulftastic:
“John Middleton appeared on This Morning today.

From what was said, tonight's episode is going to be a tough and heartbreaking watch.”

This might sound silly but I' m dreading it. I think it's s going to be really sad. Well done to ED they' ve done a fantastic job with this story so far. I really feel after the last few eps, that we're ve lost 'our' Ashley now I' ve got friends who have seen parents succumb to dementia. It's a dreadful thing, whatever form it comes in.
kwynne42
21-12-2016
Analysis central on last nights episode

To call this episode Brilliant would be both an understatement and wrong because in this sense because brilliant in this context is probably the wrong word but I don't know the right one so will leave it at that

If John Middleton and this episode don't win all the awards going it will be a travesty of all travesties.

We hear about Dementia all the time but none of us know what its really like, now after this episode we have a hint of it

My Gran had what Ashley had but in a sense she was lucky because she broke her hip and caught a hospital acquired superbug an died quickly while she still mostly knew who people were.

A few thoughts

1) Took me a while to work out the person he was with was Aaron. Using other actors to see Asleys confusing was very original

2) They should keep "Alt" Aaron he much better than the original

3) Alt Doug on the other hand was much worse.

4) Using the village where they filmed for years was inspired

5) Most people trying to help Aaron was nice

Ways how to get rid of Dementia

Hurry up scientists and find a cure
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