He's got a job at the garage hasn't he? And I think it's his Mummy who moved in with him, not the other way round.

I still think he's a really good character, but I don't need to approve of a character morally to enjoy watching them. Thank gawd.

Shame he's so boring at the moment, but it doesn't matter too much, because it's allowed Cain to come back to the front of the show, where he damn well belongs.

There can only be one village bad boy - Cain; the writers were starting to make him soft, but now he is back on form. What was the thinking behind trying to introduce a second 'Cain' in to the village?

Those of you who say Ross is horrible - you still enjoy watching him because he can act, right?
or do you think he's a carp actor as well as being a horrid character?
Same with Cain, Charity and Robert?

Can you still enjoy watching them, or can't you bear seeing them on screen?

I'm just curious.



See, I think Charity, Cain, Ross and Robert have done some terrible, awful things, but I LOVE watching them.



{And yes, those of you who are familiar with me will know I can't stand Adam the character or the actor- and I can't enjoy watching him because I think he's rubbish at acting.

I guess what I'm asking is do you all 'love to hate' those characters and therefore can you still enjoy watching them doing their evil deeds?

I agree about Adam: there is not much they can do with him because he is limited in his abilities.

Evil to me is when you have no conscience. Characters have to do outrageous things in soaps or we wouldn't watch. The key is do they have a conscience and if they do they are redeemable. Soap land always have a redline and once crossed a character has to be punished. I will be interested to see what happens with Paddy and how that storyline plays out.

I can't love, even like, Ross as he is such a pointless character, chitarivera. All he does is steal cars and bed women; there is no depth to his character. . I have seen him in other things, and he can act, but there is nothing he can do with this character to make himself likeable, or even watchable. James, Pete and Finn have blended in well with the rest of the Emmerdale cast, but not Ross.

Finn is the only one who tries and makes Ross see sense, and sometimes you can see it kinda sinking in and the wheels turning once Finn has bailed in exasperation.

It's a shame ED doesn't make more of this relationship because Finn is basically the one adult that Ross seems to be compelled to listen to/care about. Of course Dobbeh is romantic amour so that's different. Even then he probably wouldn't listen to her.

I can't bear watching Ross on screen. I very rarely watch ED 'live' because of the time I get home from work, make dinner etc so I have it set to 'series record' and watch it later in the evening. As of last week I have now started fast forwarding any scenes that Ross is in - which doesn't leave a lot for me to watch at the moment! I can't stand watching Laurel on screen either.

I often do the same thing, Andybear. Ross is a turn-OFF character for me. It doesn't help that so many episodes and storylines revolve around him these days. It feels like the show is starting to reach the saturation point with Ross that it did with Aaron a few years back, where the entire programme seemed to orbit around him. I hate it when that happens, with any character. For me, soaps work better when they make proper use of their entire cast, not any one person/family dominating at the expense of everyone else.

Thank you SteveOwen. So many people on this forum rave about Ross and I really don't get what's so great about him. I know some people like him because they think he's attractive but I don't get that either. And I agree with you about so many episodes and storylines revolving around him.

The character of Ross has rapidly become one of the most high profile ones in Emmerdale. The actor Michael Parr plays him in a way that has led to him becoming a love/hate character with the viewers. Hes very popular.

I agree concerning Adam ( adumb) as he is a poor actor. Charity I really cannot stand, but again, her character is popular. Anothe either love her or hate her character.
Robert I found a bit boring of old really. When he returned played by Hawley I rapidly came round and think he's one of the more important characters, much more complexley played now, and all the better for it.
I find ED has characters that you either love or hate, and each have their fans and haters.

Hell to the yes. I love watching all of them.


Because Cain's 40 and can't be as wild as he used to be, I'd imagine. And Jeff Hordley might not want to stay forever .

Personally I love scenes with Cain and Ross in them - they work brilliantly together. But Cain's tied up with Robert now (literally, and brilliantly), and Ross is off being tedious with Debs, so I don't expect we'll get much of that now.


A lot of his popularity is down to Michael Parr's acting, I agree. There's just something about the relish he brings to making Ross nasty but still human (just). He's got amazing chutzpah.

Equally, I think a lot of the backlash against him might be down to the fact that he's just been overused. He had a massive storyline with Donna last summer, which was a big hit. Then he attacked Laurence, in a really uninspiring partnership with Aaron. Then there was that total damp squib with him finding out Emma tried to kill him (which went nowhere). Now he's both shagging Debbie (sorry, in lurrrrrrrve, boke), and impregnating Charity, neither of which is very interesting, while treating Carly like crap (which ironically is actually the only bit that works). I hate to say it, but even I FF or surf through his stuff at the moment. Maybe they should give him a rest and a rethink.

Can I ask.. do people really, actually, fast forward scenes with characters they don't like? Or is it like saying 'I want to put my foot through the TV' .. you don't really want to do that. I just cannot fathom bothering to skip through bits just because of one character. I've hated many characters, still do but it wouldn't cross my mind to bother skipping past them. Might miss something important to a story line for one thing.

Interesting replies from you all.
Thanks.
I do think that making Ross the father of Charity's baby is taking it too far with him.

But I feel he is very watchable.

And I wait with interest to see what happens when Charity is released.

Agreed.


Agree - and it's so boring.
Where is everyone else?


Nor do I.


No, he's just discussed a lot. I'd say more people don't like him than do.
He's only high profile because he's never off the screen, even if it's only sitting scheming and flashing dirty looks in the Woolpack.

Yes, afraid I actually do. Normally if I'm a bit bored, I'll just surf while I'm watching. But I actually hate the Ross/Debbie stuff, and I'm not bothered where it's going. So I FF.

Luckily, there's almost always something to enjoy, and if one night is duff, the next one won't be - so I don't have to do it often.

The two worst characters - and they had to put them together.

Not very scientific.

Come on, the guy has made a stir! It doesn't matter whether you like him or not. I know lots of people on DS moan about him, because they love moaning, emmerdale isn't what it used to be, etc etc (probably true, but true of all soaps), but he's definitely popular. Hence lots of award nominations, lots of press, the soap mags seem to love him, and all of that.

I don't rate Danny Miller or Aaron at all personally, but even I can see he's got a following and a profile, and that's the way it is.

It really worries me that there's quite a youth focus in ED at the moment and they might just write Cain out because he's had the temerity to reach the grand old age of 40 and they've lined up a replacement. That's no way to treat people (the actor, I mean, not the character) I really hope that's not what's happening, but I have a horrible feeling...

Cain's a much more well rounded interesying character.

If snything, I think they'll lose Michael Parr soon because the actot will not be able to maintain the pace of being involved in huge story after huge story and people will get fed up eith the character.

I'm not sure that any social media reflects what the viewers think. You forget about the millions who don't post. The magazines will publish what the press departments send them so again it's not necessarily an accurate gauge.

Saying that, he could well be a popular character but that certainly doesn't mean people criticise him to moan, or because of nostalgia for some sort of golden age. Some of us don't enjoy watching the character and think he's been over used and the character is badly written and unsympathetic. It strikes me that he's a marmite character.

I do. If there's anything important to a storyline I find out about it on this forum. Life is too short to watch stuff on TV that I don't like watching and I don't like watching Ross.

That is exactly right. All interviews etc. come from The Press Office. Wording has to be changed when published but they're basically all the same. The 'interviewee' will read and record them on tape and they have to be transcribed and edited.

I was recently accused of being a troll because of being too positive about Emmerdale! So I certainly don't moan about Ross because I love moaning; I moan about Ross because I don't like him.

If any of the production team get rid of Cain because Ross is suppose to be the stand in or because Cain is 40 or whatever then they are a bunch of halfwits, Cain in any form is popular from the bad boy or good guy and everything in between (and that's from someone who doesn't feel too way about him at times) Fair enough if the actor wishes to leave but to be pushed would be mad.

I thought Ross's character was brought in as a replacement for Aaron, and then Danny Miller came back. So they have tried hard to make Ross into Cain lite, unsuccessfully. The depth of character is not there and although Michael Parr is a very good actor he does not command the screen the way Jeff Hordley does. I do believe that Cain steal every scene he is in and some of the cast can and do hold their own in scenes with him.