They'd better NOT write out Cain for any daft-headed reason like that. I'd say the fact that he's been back at the front of the show recently (and absolutely rocking it) shows that's not the case. If he chooses to go, that's different. But even if he stays, they can't have Cain be quite as rough and wild as he used to be surely. There's happily room for both, in my eyes.

Tbh, some people are clearly already getting fed up with Ross - the evidence is right here. And it's because he's been a bit overused, and misused. I still think he's got potential, but they need to stick him in the background a bit when Charley goes off on maternity, and think of a new direction for him. Maybe stop the assault/car stealing merry go round and give him a bit of depth. Lusting after Debbie certainly isn't giving it to him.



Point taken both, people genuinely dislike him. I don't agree, obviously, but I accept that.

I sometimes also feel like a troll on here for being too positive, if it helps.

I really hope they don't turn Pete into the bad guy so we root for Ross and Debbie. I really like him now And I'm really beginning to dislike Debbie! Was very pleased to see the smug smile on Ross' face disappear though

Nooooooooo

I like Ross a lot. And it's not because he's good looking but because he is played by a decent actor who holds his own against the best in Emmerdale and because, in my opinion, he is an interesting character to watch... most of the time.

I don't deny that this Debbie plot is silly and that making him the father of Moses are both bad directions to take the character in. In fact, I despise both of these storylines for him, he works better with Carly than Debbie and don't even get me started on the baby!

Still, I hope for an improvement in the near future though I do feel Emmerdale is currently aiming to please the loud voices of social media and that is not what is best for the show right now. It's cheapened a lot of stories and it looks more and more like Hollyoaks as we move forward. It's time that changed.

I don't think they'll make Pete look bad. Completely the opposite actually. I'm think that




I'm glad someone still likes the bugger.

Do you think they really listen to social media? Because they never damn well listen to me. I guess it's useful for working out which characters and storylines are getting a reaction, but they should really stick to their guns and run with the storylines they think will work.

I agree some of the storylining is quite superficial though. My heart sinks at the idea they might go like Hollyoaks, because that's really a pile of irredeemable shite now. The best stories this year have been Alicia's and Laurel's, and they were just good stories with great actresses - nothing to do with twitter buzz. They also had a bit more depth.

Ross & Debbie has a massive following on Twitter though, same as Aaron and Robert. I don't know whether without the input from social media that the stories would still be going in the direction that they are. I could be wrong, of course, and this could be exactly what they have planned but like you said; they are far and away from the sophisticated stories of Alicia and Laurel and it all feels a bit superficial in comparison.

I must confess though to being disappointed in the quick wrap-up of both of those storylines. Laurel is magically cured, Alicia got an apology and decided to move to Portugal.

Alicia's absence has put a massive hole in Emmerdale for me right now, can't wait to see her back before she leaves for good.

Seriously? My god, I had no idea, I never look at the tags. I think they're both absolute rubbish, but I guess people lap up those schmaltzy romances. They make me boke, to be honest. I made an exception for Ross/Donna because it was funny and sparky and sad.

I agree about the lack of aftermath for both Laurel/Alicia stories - another very Hollyoaksey failing. But that's partly because Natalie's leaving anyway. I was hoping there would be more of Laurel - I thought maybe Ashley would reject her in some way because of Harriet, knocking her back off the wagon. If there's nothing, that'll be pretty pathetic.

Probably best that you keep it that way.

I think they are both rubbish too, there's nothing to root for just people having sex. I find that uninteresting. I got behind Ross/Donna because it was more than that. It had the tragic romance vibe and I that's something I can enjoy.

I presume Natalie's leaving has affected her storyline, and as long as she does not leave the village in a coffin I will be okay with her exit. Laurel though, she was having withdrawal symptoms from the alcohol before (whether or not that is realistic I do not know) but as soon as Ashley is dying she can knock it without issue. Whether or not she falls off the wagon again the story has already disappointed me because of this oversight.

I really like this If he is going, I think he should definitely go out on a positive.


Pete did plant the money in Ross' car boot though, and I do wonder if that was a sign of things to come.

Don't bother starting. Twitter is very 'bandwaggonish' and fickle . Did I make a new word? It makes amusing reading at times but not much more.

I think Ross and Debbie are rubbish too . Together or separately.

Sorry Star Debbie did at least look very guilty when she arrived at the hospital to see Moses, but in the last two episodes she looks as guilt free as Ross. When Pete bounced into the pub tonight all excited to tell her about their break she looked like she'd smelled a fart. And all the moaning about being tired!(I wonder why). Ross is a bad influence on her. He'll have her stealing cars soon.

So far Parr is nothing more than a very average soap hard man act who's made to look good by the low quality acting in ED, acting which has sank to levels barely above HO standards. Jamie Lomas was far, far better in HO than Parr has been in ED and Lomas is no great shakes. Parr might be good one day but he'll need to leave ED to reach what potential he has. It's not just Parr who is massively overrated on here though. Emma Atkins and Nicola Wheeler both bombed away from ED yet everyone on here thinks they're amazing. Like it or not the vast majority of soap actors are at their level acting in hammily acted soaps.

★ I find this surprising too!

●...● *Boke!* - I've learnt a new word today!

■ I'm really disappointed they've already got her back in the pub. I would've liked to have seen her riddled with anxiety and refuse to go in.

Pete's no saint, is he? He's basically Mr Angry, always on the verge of blowing his head gasket. And there was the drug dealing. He's a mighty pain in the arse really, but at the moment they're portraying him as this saintly kiddie-lover and all-round lovely partner, which means only one thing to me:





I won't, but it's not about me - it's about whether Emmerdale change their stories according to what people say on Twitter. They would be pretty much idiots to do that, because that's what Hollyoaks did, court the Twitter audience, and they've ended up with half a mill schoolkids watching, while the rest of the audience has haemorraged away. Foolish.


Boke is the noise I make when I read the 99th attempt by PR to persuade me that Ross and Debbie are "the new Charity and Cain", have "amazing chemistry" and are "true love".

If you have to force it, it ain't happening.

In his own backside i'm sure you meant to say ianradioian

I FF through certain storylines on Corrie and did it on Emmerdale when Maurel were at their stinking worst

Some eps can be a bit short with all the FFing, although I do with storylines not individual Characters well unless they are called Aaron

Always baffles me the love for Aaron does

People love to call each other trolls don't they, I was called a troll by 2 seperate people in the old late unlamented P&P thread for being both positive and negative about Emmerdale.

Isn't looking like she smelled a fart her normal look (sorry Star.)

To mark my 26,001st post here is a rare Tuesday Analysis of Emmerdale Characters,

1) Carly - isn't a nice people, she blackmails people and the tries to emotionallty blackmail herown father for the 28th time.

2) Bob - tell brenda on her in punishment so she can bore Carly to death with her whining moralising about how you stole her beloved Gennie's money

3) Brenda loves to moralise about poor dead Gennie the same poor dead Gennie whose memory Brenda used as an excuse to steal from shops and the cafe.

4) Belle poor Belle has lost Hamish at least it provoked the best acting of the episode

5) Paddy - thought Paddy didn't like being near horses and avoided them at all costs, I suppose he's happy to kill them.

6) Not So gods gift Dross didn't get what he wanted.

7) Jai is getting worse with his evilness, soon the devil will be too scared to let him into hell.

8) Megan lets hope her plan is loss complicated than Jai's

9) Rachel is she clever enough to follow Moira's plan? are We?

That' s ironic as that thread was started by someone at the request of a troll who was constantly disrupting this thread. He didn't start it himself, probably knowing it would be ignored, but took the coward's way.
He no longer posts on the soaps forum.

Yes. Well done, Hamish.

I did really like Ross at first but I do not enjoy watching the character at all now. The writers have written him too much as a violent thug who thinks nothing of beating up someone and putting them in hospital and also being as obnoxious as possible then they will have a few scenes when the viewer is then meant to find him loveable when he interacts with April and probably in scenes with Moses so all is forgiven. I just think he is stuck in this cycle and he has no real chemistry with Debbie.

I hope that they don't either, but I think if they did the story might be more believable and paint Debbie in a better light.