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The Emmerdale Discussion Thread (Spoilers in tags — Part 15)
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Mark_Washingto1
31-08-2015
Originally Posted by crunchie crisp:
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Personally I have no opinion on Debbie's mothering skills, there are plenty more reasons to dislike that character ”

This is very true, plus I'm sure she'll step up to the plate in a year or two when Sarah gets pregnant and ignores baby and she will be forced to care for it
Dress to Kill
31-08-2015
Hmm.. just realized that on Instagram they posted a photo a few days ago of all the Spencers and Jai/Rishi with this as the caption

Quote:
“The Spencers before the off...Bhasker Patel, James Hooton, Liam Fox, Daisy Campbell and little Aadam Wahab Shahzad say an emotional goodbye to Kelli Hollis and Gemma Oaten on their last day on set 😢”

Doesn't that suggest he'll be back? I suppose he'll probably come back for the odd visit with Jai but I thought he'd just disappear and we'd never see him again like Rachel and Ali.
chitarivera
31-08-2015
Originally Posted by crunchie crisp:
“The reason for debbie's criticism over the kids is due to the fact so many things were " I an doing this for Sarah or I am doing this for the kids" You make the kids your focus, you will get criticised for seeming neglect

Personally I have no opinion on Debbie's mothering skills, there are plenty more reasons to dislike that character ”



Originally Posted by thejoyof_pat:
“I think the criticism of Debbie and the kids is funny... And I for over like her character.”

you been drinking JoP?
Do you mean you forever like her character?
lotty27
31-08-2015
Originally Posted by Keren-Happuch:
“Awww look at widdle star desperately trying to defend Debbie <pats star patronisingly on head>.

No I do actually agree with you. We see the twins so rarely I'm starting to think they're actually just a figment of Bob and Brenda's imaginations. I do find it laughable that Debbie, with a business, a newborn, a toddler and another child has the time to sit lounging around in the pub (and god knows how she found the time to shag Ross in between all that - although admittedly if I was her, I would find the time ).

It's not just Debbie though, Priya and David are always in the pub as are Ashley and Laurel. It is silly but like you say, unless it's relevant to the storyline, no-one wants to see characters carting their kids around everywhere, especially when they have more important things to do - like shagging their fiance's brother. ”

LOL, great post!

Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“Am I the only one that really doesn't want scenes if kids with their parents/grandparents? I don't mean family scenes like everyone having a meal, or taking the kuds to the shop or park, they can be fun, as long as the focus is on the adults not the kids. It's the cutesy one to one scenes of the type we get with April that I can't stand.”

God no, they can keep the kids off the screen forever for me.
And I get a sugar rush every time April appears now.

Originally Posted by crunchie crisp:
“The reason for debbie's criticism over the kids is due to the fact so many things were " I an doing this for Sarah or I am doing this for the kids" You make the kids your focus, you will get criticised for seeming neglect

Personally I have no opinion on Debbie's mothering skills, there are plenty more reasons to dislike that character ”

BIB:Got it in one. THAT'S why Debbie gets the crap about it. The other characters don't seem to give a monkey's about their kids Apart from Marlon of course

Italics:
chitarivera
31-08-2015
Originally Posted by lotty27:
“LOL, great post!



God no, they can keep the kids off the screen forever for me.
And I get a sugar rush every time April appears now.



BIB:Got it in one. THAT'S why Debbie gets the crap about it. The other characters don't seem to give a monkey's about their kids Apart from Marlon of course

Italics: ”



He wouldn't care so much if he still had his lovely Dalmatian Daisy to love.
So again, I blame Laurel.

it's all Laurel's fault.
chitarivera
01-09-2015
Eric really needs someone to have a word in his ear.

He locked Val and Diane in that Hall of Mirrors.

He is responsible for them not being able to get out.

Yes, he is grieving and probably knows deep down but Diane is also grieving and he shouldn't be taking it out on her.
They should be helping each other through the grief.

Doug should have gently pointed that out last night.
Especially when Eric banned Diane from attending the comedy funeral.
kwynne42
01-09-2015
Originally Posted by lotty27:
“LOL, great post!



God no, they can keep the kids off the screen forever for me.
And I get a sugar rush every time April appears now.



BIB:Got it in one. THAT'S why Debbie gets the crap about it. The other characters don't seem to give a monkey's about their kids Apart from Marlon of course

Italics: ”

Surely then the other characters should get attacked more not less for not caring about their children, at least Debbie always seems to know where hers are most of the time
Mark_Washingto1
01-09-2015
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Surely then the other characters should get attacked more not less for not caring about their children, at least Debbie always seems to know where hers are most of the time”

LOL, true, she knows the kids are either with Andy or Pete. Honestly the worst mother to me was Katie on Corrie, she was always pawning her kid off on someone, especially when she was dating Ryan and wanted to hit up the clubs instead of watching her kid. It really made no sense that she took Joseph with her when she left as Chesney and Sinead took care of him more than Katie ever did.
Janet Plank
01-09-2015
Originally Posted by chitarivera:
“Eric really needs someone to have a word in his ear.

He locked Val and Diane in that Hall of Mirrors.

He is responsible for them not being able to get out.

Yes, he is grieving and probably knows deep down but Diane is also grieving and he shouldn't be taking it out on her.
They should be helping each other through the grief.

Doug should have gently pointed that out last night.
Especially when Eric banned Diane from attending the comedy funeral.”

Good post, chitarivera. Have the writers forgotten that Eric was responsible for the death of his wife and the injuries to his sister-in-law?
kwynne42
02-09-2015
2 Analysis Centrals guide on what to do and what not to do and other strange things that happen on the day of a funeral

1) Don't steal the hearse with the body it may lead to comedic scenes that were old even while last of the Summer Wine Was still in Production

2) If your going to hire a Meatloaf impersonator at least make him sing his best song "i'll do anything for Love but I won't do that.

What is the That which he wouldn't do knowing Meatloaf it must have been pretty shocking.

Still he was a suprisingly good singer

3) Do have mail Sailor Strippers at least they made Kerry happy

4) Don't let strange crrepy but very keen enigmatic young men into your house it is bound to end in tears

whats the betting he is a rent boy sent by Robert to ruin Lawrence's life

5) Bernice should go for nice younger men

6 Is Andy going to have to pay the huge interest likely run up by Katie's unpaid Phone Bill, probably costs double the original figure

7) Are Fire eaters not a safety hazard at graveside

8)Victoria looked very nice but lets have her on screen more.

9) If you are running through a field of Wheat make your there is no combine harvester in the field before you sink to the ground, and is the farmer very late with Harvesting.

It was a very good episode wild and Wacky not unlike Val herself.
cyrilandshirley
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“2 Analysis Centrals guide on what to do and what not to do and other strange things that happen on the day of a funeral

1) Don't steal the hearse with the body it may lead to comedic scenes that were old even while last of the Summer Wine Was still in Production

2) If your going to hire a Meatloaf impersonator at least make him sing his best song "i'll do anything for Love but I won't do that.

What is the That which he wouldn't do knowing Meatloaf it must have been pretty shocking.

Still he was a suprisingly good singer

3) Do have mail Sailor Strippers at least they made Kerry happy

4) Don't let strange crrepy but very keen enigmatic young men into your house it is bound to end in tears

whats the betting he is a rent boy sent by Robert to ruin Lawrence's life

5) Bernice should go for nice younger men

6 Is Andy going to have to pay the huge interest likely run up by Katie's unpaid Phone Bill, probably costs double the original figure

7) Are Fire eaters not a safety hazard at graveside

8)Victoria looked very nice but lets have her on screen more.

9) If you are running through a field of Wheat make your there is no combine harvester in the field before you sink to the ground, and is the farmer very late with Harvesting.

It was a very good episode wild and Wacky not unlike Val herself.”

They are, but you can always turn it into a cremation.
Wyezed
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by Janet Plank:
“Good post, chitarivera. Have the writers forgotten that Eric was responsible for the death of his wife and the injuries to his sister-in-law?”

I know he was there and happily went along with it, but was it Eric that actually locked the door?
Glendarroch
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by Wyezed:
“I know he was there and happily went along with it, but was it Eric that actually locked the door?”

Not sure, but to be fair while it was a stupid thing to do, Eric could hardly have hardly have predicted a disaster happening, and probably thought that the ride's owner would be in at some point to check it before opening (assuming there's more than one set if keys). I can see why he would blame himself and Diane (purely for the fact that she survived) but really Chrissie is the one to blame.
Mark_Washingto1
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“2 Analysis Centrals guide on what to do and what not to do and other strange things that happen on the day of a funeral

1) Don't steal the hearse with the body it may lead to comedic scenes that were old even while last of the Summer Wine Was still in Production

2) If your going to hire a Meatloaf impersonator at least make him sing his best song "i'll do anything for Love but I won't do that.

What is the That which he wouldn't do knowing Meatloaf it must have been pretty shocking.

Still he was a suprisingly good singer

3) Do have mail Sailor Strippers at least they made Kerry happy

4) Don't let strange crrepy but very keen enigmatic young men into your house it is bound to end in tears

whats the betting he is a rent boy sent by Robert to ruin Lawrence's life

5) Bernice should go for nice younger men

6 Is Andy going to have to pay the huge interest likely run up by Katie's unpaid Phone Bill, probably costs double the original figure

7) Are Fire eaters not a safety hazard at graveside

8)Victoria looked very nice but lets have her on screen more.

9) If you are running through a field of Wheat make your there is no combine harvester in the field before you sink to the ground, and is the farmer very late with Harvesting.

It was a very good episode wild and Wacky not unlike Val herself.”

4. ITA, that guy was sent by Robert and I'm wondering if this guy is a former lover or Robert and will cause issues for RobRon in the future.

5. Maybe they will try Bernice with David, they could be a good couple
crunchie crisp
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“2 Analysis Centrals guide on what to do and what not to do and other strange things that happen on the day of a funeral

1) Don't steal the hearse with the body it may lead to comedic scenes that were old even while last of the Summer Wine Was still in Production

2) If your going to hire a Meatloaf impersonator at least make him sing his best song "i'll do anything for Love but I won't do that.

What is the That which he wouldn't do knowing Meatloaf it must have been pretty shocking.

Still he was a suprisingly good singer

3) Do have mail Sailor Strippers at least they made Kerry happy

4) Don't let strange crrepy but very keen enigmatic young men into your house it is bound to end in tears

whats the betting he is a rent boy sent by Robert to ruin Lawrence's life

5) Bernice should go for nice younger men

6 Is Andy going to have to pay the huge interest likely run up by Katie's unpaid Phone Bill, probably costs double the original figure

7) Are Fire eaters not a safety hazard at graveside

8)Victoria looked very nice but lets have her on screen more.

9) If you are running through a field of Wheat make your there is no combine harvester in the field before you sink to the ground, and is the farmer very late with Harvesting.

It was a very good episode wild and Wacky not unlike Val herself.”

BIB Definitely not his best song. Bat out of Hell was the album that turned Meatloaf from a session singer to a star. Heaven can wait was a wonderful choice for funeral and Bat out of Hell iis wonderful so OTT and allowed the air guitar which was very funny

Why would they be any more hazardous at a grave site, unless it was an open oil well.

Now that would be Valtacular
desperate house
02-09-2015
Questions Isn't Bernice a little uml elderly for David?

Is the fiasco that is Val's funeral over yet? What a monumental load of old tat and bad taste. Was it supposed to be amusing? The bl**dy woman was double annoying when she was alive and double double annoying now she is finally, finally, dead.

They paid for four male strippers and all they did was lower the coffin, epic fail!

So last week wasn't all bad, we got rid of Rachael, Ali and Val. Only Jai, Moron and his sugar doll, Aaron, Adam and the mad cow woman to go now.

I thought Victoria was Debbie, how far has she gone with the fake bake?

4. Is Pa Barton Mark II welded into that disgusting jacket? He never wears anything else. I swear he mucks out the cows and then sits down to meals still wearing it. Nearly as disgusting as Zac's greasy old cap!
Wyezed
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“Not sure, but to be fair while it was a stupid thing to do, Eric could hardly have hardly have predicted a disaster happening, and probably thought that the ride's owner would be in at some point to check it before opening (assuming there's more than one set if keys). I can see why he would blame himself and Diane (purely for the fact that she survived) but really Chrissie is the one to blame.”

Ultimately it's Robert for having the affair with Aaron. That was why she was burning his car.
Mark_Washingto1
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by desperate house:
“Questions Isn't Bernice a little uml elderly for David?
”

LOL David has got to be close to 40 and Bernice was already with Andy who not only is almost young enough to be her son but also her step-brother. So David would be a good fit IMHO. Bob could work too, but I'd rather see him get with Harriet.
Mark_Washingto1
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by Wyezed:
“Ultimately it's Robert for having the affair with Aaron. That was why she was burning his car.”

The person responsible is Wendy, she started the whole thing when she snitched on Bob and Val to the police, which caused Val and Dianne to fall out so Eric and felt the need to lock them in the mirror maze to make up. ITS ALL DOWN TO THAT HORRIBLE BORING SNITCH NAMED WENDY!!!!!
desperate house
02-09-2015
Is David around 40? I am hopeless at guessing people's ages and I hate it when people say "how old do you think I am"? How the hell am I supposed to know, apart from anything else, I am very short sighted.

So how old is Alisha then?
PS The thought of pretty David and Bernice gives me the horrors!
Mark_Washingto1
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by desperate house:
“Is David around 40? I am hopeless at guessing people's ages and I hate it when people say "how old do you think I am"? How the hell am I supposed to know, apart from anything else, I am very short sighted.

So how old is Alisha then?
PS The thought of pretty David and Bernice gives me the horrors!”

I think Alicia is younger than him, I think she's late 20's/early 30's. Why would David and Bernice be a bad idea?
Melephunk2010
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by desperate house:
“Is David around 40? I am hopeless at guessing people's ages and I hate it when people say "how old do you think I am"? How the hell am I supposed to know, apart from anything else, I am very short sighted.

So how old is Alisha then?
PS The thought of pretty David and Bernice gives me the horrors!”

David is nowhere near 40!

I'd say he & Alicia are early thirties
lotty27
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by chitarivera:
“He wouldn't care so much if he still had his lovely Dalmatian Daisy to love.
So again, I blame Laurel.

it's all Laurel's fault.”

Thank you for reminding me Chita, she's a murderer! Murderer!

Damn you Laurel *shakes fist*

She also seems to have forgotten that she's got a son, all we ever see is April. Even when her and Marlon were "breaking it to the kids" that they were splitting up, only April was sitting there! Where is Arthur?!?!!? What's she done with him?

Originally Posted by kwynne42:
“Surely then the other characters should get attacked more not less for not caring about their children, at least Debbie always seems to know where hers are most of the time”

Says a lot about the viewers

Originally Posted by Janet Plank:
“Good post, chitarivera. Have the writers forgotten that Eric was responsible for the death of his wife and the injuries to his sister-in-law?”

Yeah, Diane should be losing it with him screaming that he and his cohorts could have killed her too. And then socked him in the gob for good measure

Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“Not sure, but to be fair while it was a stupid thing to do, Eric could hardly have hardly have predicted a disaster happening, and probably thought that the ride's owner would be in at some point to check it before opening (assuming there's more than one set if keys). I can see why he would blame himself and Diane (purely for the fact that she survived) but really Chrissie is the one to blame.”

But ... all Chrissie did was set fire to a car. Robert put the fire out (or so they thought) so they turned their back on it and didn't realise that it had reignited so there was no malice aforethought on her behalf either. Although she was totally reckless lighting the fire she only meant to kill Robert's wheels not cause armageddon in the village

It was just a horrible series on incidents really where it was no one's fault in that they didn't intend for this to happen.

Except Eric's - cos I hate him at the mo

Originally Posted by desperate house:
“Questions Isn't Bernice a little uml elderly for David?

Is the fiasco that is Val's funeral over yet? What a monumental load of old tat and bad taste. Was it supposed to be amusing? The bl**dy woman was double annoying when she was alive and double double annoying now she is finally, finally, dead.

They paid for four male strippers and all they did was lower the coffin, epic fail!

So last week wasn't all bad, we got rid of Rachael, Ali and Val. Only Jai, Moron and his sugar doll, Aaron, Adam and the mad cow woman to go now.

I thought Victoria was Debbie, how far has she gone with the fake bake?

4. Is Pa Barton Mark II welded into that disgusting jacket? He never wears anything else. I swear he mucks out the cows and then sits down to meals still wearing it. Nearly as disgusting as Zac's greasy old cap!”

What have I missed? Bernice is going after David?!?!?!
Glendarroch
02-09-2015
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“LOL David has got to be close to 40 and Bernice was already with Andy who not only is almost young enough to be her son but also her step-brother. So David would be a good fit IMHO. Bob could work too, but I'd rather see him get with Harriet.”

Originally Posted by Melephunk2010:
“David is nowhere near 40!

I'd say he & Alicia are early thirties”

According to Wikipedia ( which may be wrong of course) David is 34 and Matthew 35. I would have said early/ mid 30s myself

Originally Posted by lotty27:
“Thank you for reminding me Chita, she's a murderer! Murderer!

Damn you Laurel *shakes fist*

She also seems to have forgotten that she's got a son, all we ever see is April. Even when her and Marlon were "breaking it to the kids" that they were splitting up, only April was sitting there! Where is Arthur?!?!!? What's she done with him?



Says a lot about the viewers



Yeah, Diane should be losing it with him screaming that he and his cohorts could have killed her too. And then socked him in the gob for good measure



But ... all Chrissie did was set fire to a car. Robert put the fire out (or so they thought) so they turned their back on it and didn't realise that it had reignited so there was no malice aforethought on her behalf either. Although she was totally reckless lighting the fire she only meant to kill Robert's wheels not cause armageddon in the village

It was just a horrible series on incidents really where it was no one's fault in that they didn't intend for this to happen.
!”

I don't entirely agree. Chrissie was reckless in setting fire to the car, especially in a yard where there's going to be flammable's around, but of course she could never have predicted the chopper getting hit by a gas canister. As you say there was no intention of causing harm but still, it was the fire she set which caused the chopper to crash. Nothing else. Really her situation is quite similar to Belle's with Gemma or Cain and Jimmy with the show home. It was recklessness, not an intent to kill.
crunchie crisp
02-09-2015
Bernice's roots are bad again
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