Although it was last year I still miss ashleigh coyle who was 2nd in bb last year. She may not have won, however she had a great time and was to me quite a sweet girl really. Disagreed with how she was edited by em, made to look like the baddie at times. She wasn't perfect, but at least she was pretty inoffensive really. If she'd have hung around less with toya she'd have been more of a challenge for helen. Nah I miss her beauty and I think it was unfair that when she was immune that the producers tampered with nominations so she could be up. But they had vision who they wanted to win at the time and it wasn't her sadly.

She looked lovely on the final in her pretty dress. A real credit to northern Ireland and Christopher was as well. Didn't faze me that she spoke about helen to Christopher, she shouldn't have done so really, but I was an easy going person of her good and bad habits.

Even on bbbots she looked lovely during the cbb 14 series on both times she was booked in. It was great she supported Gary busey and for that I liked her even more.

Yeah, I'm pretty shocked they didn't put her on BOTS this year during Helen's stay :/

I loved Ashleigh, she or one of the Chris's should have won.

Stupid production team having favouritism as per usual.

I loved her. I think she had one of the most spectacular turn arounds in BB history.

Went form being majorly disliked, to almost universally loved. Shame Helen beat her, as Ashleigh definitely deserved it more.

She was just like Gina rio in more ways than one albeit a lot more tactful and diplomatic.

I'm not wearing my rose tinted glasses today so will say that the Ashleigh i remember from last year was incredibly bitchy about many of her fellow housemates, was hated by the viewers when she teamed up with Toyah, and only became semi- popular because she took against Helen and her friends.

I found her just as distasteful as Helen whilst in the house, for different reasons, but will say that she has for the most part kept a dignified silence since the show ended.

I couldn't stand her. She was the most two-faced person in that house. If you re watch last year's, you will see she spent the first few weeks very quiet and then the whole time bitching. She had a problem with Helen before Helen even had a problem with her. But she also bitched about others. Even her best mate Danielle. She never would have come as far as she had if she hadn't argued with Helen the way she did in the last few weeks

Then again Gina was the most two-faced person in her house as well. But they edited her to make her look honest and real. But thankfully the nighttime live feed I found on DailyMotion proved otherwise.

I completely agree, I really liked her too.....How different it would have been if she'd been allowed to return as an ex house-mate instead of Helen Wood. Actually it would have been an idea to put another three other runners-up in alongside her, maybe;

Dexter Koh

Mikey (Michael) Hughes

Jonny Regan

I'm sure they would have made more interesting viewing than these legends did!

2nd place is the new 1st place.

Yes that is a very good way of putting things with the way things have gone in recent series with the producers determined that the winner will be who they want and not who should have won.

And your original thread was excellent by the way and I for one agree with every word.

Why is 'editing' only an issue when it affects an HM you like?

All HMs are edited, so surely, this applies to all of them?

Got my goat when the producers decided to lie when she had immunity, and their intention was to put her up for eviction.

Ashleigh, Christopher, Chris, none of them seem to be liked by BB themselves, otherwise you;d expect to see them appear now and again.

BB seem to only like certain types of housemate, usually of the TOWIE appealing variety.

I'd say it was the other way around considering Helen kept going on about Ashleigh only being 18 in the beginning, before Ashleigh got sick of that being used as some kind of excuse. There's a video in the beginning of Ashleigh drunk saying how much she really liked Helen. So i'd say the problems began on Helen's side.

Yes, I believe Helen was deeply envious of Ashleigh.

Yes, you could see the envy seeping out of Helen. I think because Ashleigh is just a naturally pretty innocent young girl and Helen appeared to deeply resent that; I suppose with her looks and past it was inevitable really but so awful to see Helen be so hateful although that said, she appears to have made a bit of a career of it now!