Since when was Helen the forum favourite last year?.. Am I missing something?
Last year Helen was a bully, this year Marc is,
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Originally Posted by B L Zeebub:
“Marc uses his physical strength and goading tactics, like accusing people of lying, and so-called banter (actually abusive language), to intimidate, belittle and control the HMs.
I'm sorry you can't see that it is bullying.”
“Marc uses his physical strength and goading tactics, like accusing people of lying, and so-called banter (actually abusive language), to intimidate, belittle and control the HMs.
I'm sorry you can't see that it is bullying.”
Calling someone a liar is not bullying,it may be a bit obnoxious but its #not bullying.
If you are talking about sam,she has made if very clear that they #are having banter and she #not offended by it. So if she is ok about it i dont know why you think you can use it to further your accusation that he is bullying her or intimidating her.Sam is a big girl,if she was angry at Marc we would know about it..
And if you wanna bring up the fat thing with Chloe that happened weeks ago be by guest,but you should know just as well as i do that, that was sorted.She explained that she's wasn't offended put she didn't want him to keep saying it.And he hasn't and he apologized.
MARC TO WIN!!
Last edited by Colm101 : 28-06-2015 at 10:47
Apparently calling people liars is bullying now. But threatening to slap, glass someone, throw objects and square upoto someone's face isn't.
K.
K.
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“erm who has Marc bullied?”
“erm who has Marc bullied?
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Verbal sexual abuse is bullying if it intimidates or annoys the person to whom it is addressed. Few men have been on the receiving end of it. It is generally passed off by the perpetrator as "joking". It is offensive, upsetting and generally intimidating.
Makes me laugh people saying Marc and Helen are playing a game. Yes they are because it is a game. BB is reality TV, that wants shock value, not boredom where we all switch off. BB wants headlines and publicity, not how many exciting ways you can cook chick peas. Helen said many times 'It's just a game'. Then people get accused of playing just that, a game.
Originally Posted by eramaa:
“It's the tactic of claiming bullying when there hasn't been any that's twisted and manipulative. That's a despicable stunt to try to pull, and you're doing it right there in that post.
But trying to score points on a forum over some crappy reality tv show matters more so **** the people that have actually experienced it and suffered from it.”
“It's the tactic of claiming bullying when there hasn't been any that's twisted and manipulative. That's a despicable stunt to try to pull, and you're doing it right there in that post.
But trying to score points on a forum over some crappy reality tv show matters more so **** the people that have actually experienced it and suffered from it.”
As I said, people with empathy will recognise it as bullying.
Trying to imply that I'm upsetting 'real' victims by recognising it as such, is a nasty tactic.
Stating things as being factual doesn't actually make them so. Also, growing tired of the constant passive aggressive nature of some posters who attempt to use this indirect form of control and coercion. It shows how poor they're argument is that they feel the need to stoop to such levels. It also tells you a lot about their own personal ethical and moral standards. Hardly the kind of people that are in any position to judge.
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Apparently calling people liars is bullying now. But threatening to slap, glass someone, throw objects and square upoto someone's face isn't.
K.”
“Apparently calling people liars is bullying now. But threatening to slap, glass someone, throw objects and square upoto someone's face isn't.
K.”
Sense at last.
Originally Posted by Colm101:
“Calling someone a liar is not bullying,it may be a bit obnoxious but its #not bullying.
If you are talking about sam,she has made if very clear that they #are having banter and she #not offended by it. So if she is ok about it i dont know why you think you can use it to further your accusation that he is bullying her or intimidating her.Sam is a big girl,if she was angry at Marc we would know about it..
And if you wanna bring up the fat thing with Chloe that happened weeks ago be by guest,but you should not just as well as i do that, that was sorted.She explained that she's wasn't offended put she didn't want him to keep saying it.And he hasn't and he apologized.
MARC TO WIN!!”
“Calling someone a liar is not bullying,it may be a bit obnoxious but its #not bullying.
If you are talking about sam,she has made if very clear that they #are having banter and she #not offended by it. So if she is ok about it i dont know why you think you can use it to further your accusation that he is bullying her or intimidating her.Sam is a big girl,if she was angry at Marc we would know about it..
And if you wanna bring up the fat thing with Chloe that happened weeks ago be by guest,but you should not just as well as i do that, that was sorted.She explained that she's wasn't offended put she didn't want him to keep saying it.And he hasn't and he apologized.
MARC TO WIN!!
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Continuously repeating the accusation that someone is lying, especially when there is no way of proving either side's story, is bullying behaviour. He was goading Aisleyne and, boy, did it work. Calling Nick a liar was easier, because Nick is a weak character. Danny responded for him. and was goaded about being a 'hero' and a 'hard man' for his troubles. You can see the glee in Marc's face, when he gets the response he was after.
With Sam, he has found a weak character who is willing to put up with his abuse and convince herself that it is 'banter', because she desperately wants his approval. She is the type of woman that abusive men gravitate to, and everyone says, "Why does she put up with it?" and she gives excuses for the abuser. She has been clearly upset and hurt by it, even though she smiles throughout. Very sad.
As for Chloe, of course it upsets her. She denies being offended by it, but asks him to stop doing it. Why do you think that is? Because she is offended by it. We can't be sure that he has stopped, but I guess we would have been shown Chloe's angry response if he hadn't. Even though she's not offended by it!
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Stating things as being factual doesn't actually make them so. Also, growing of the constant passive aggressive nature of some posters who attempt to use this indirect form of control and coercion. It shows how poor they're argument is that they feel the need to stoop to such levels. It also tells you a lot about their own personal ethical and moral standards. Hardly the kind of people that are in any position to judge.”
“Stating things as being factual doesn't actually make them so. Also, growing of the constant passive aggressive nature of some posters who attempt to use this indirect form of control and coercion. It shows how poor they're argument is that they feel the need to stoop to such levels. It also tells you a lot about their own personal ethical and moral standards. Hardly the kind of people that are in any position to judge.”
I'm not sure which side of the argument you are taking.
[QUOTE=B L Zeebub;78717532]Marc uses his physical strength and goading tactics, like accusing people of lying, and so-called banter (actually abusive language), to intimidate, belittle and control the HMs.
I'm sorry you can't see that it is bullying.[/quote]
Agree 100% and the wee twerp knows it and that BB are protecting him to the extent that the odious vile little turd will win this shambles of a BB.
I'm sorry you can't see that it is bullying.[/quote]
Agree 100% and the wee twerp knows it and that BB are protecting him to the extent that the odious vile little turd will win this shambles of a BB.
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