Because all of his nominations have been weak, pathetic, and in this case pure fiction...do you think a HM should be allowed to nominate someone for totally unfair and made up reasons where even his girlfriend (who hates Marc) couldn't understand what he was saying?

Oh ok, Marc splashed poor Brian while in the pool while playing...I hope Brian called the police on him, if that's antagonising then we are in big trouble as a society.

If that is Nick's "perception" then he is a fool, and biased against Marc.

Why didn't he nominate Danny for antagonising Marc when he was locking heads with him, that was far more antagonising than anything Marc did to Brian.

You can be patronising all you like about perceptions, but perceptions usually come with heavy bias as in this case.

Utter tosh. A fact is a fact. Nobody can say for a fact that Marc is right and nobody can say for a fact that Mac is wrong. These are not facts but opinions and perceptions. By all means stick up for Marc if you want but don't try to imply that everyone who doesn't agree with you is some kind of moron.

It's not a question of whether Brian was antagonised, but why. Brian would say he was bullied by Marc and felt disgusted that Marc was vile to people and helped Helen gang up on people. But what could be the case is that Brian felt uncomfortable that Marc totally saw through him and consistently exposed the lies at the heart of Brian's version of events, around Jade's nomination for one. Because Marc didn't hero worship Brian like the others, Brian felt antagonised by him.

Brian's issue was with Helen, Marc was never antagonising to him....do you admit that Brian needlessly involve Marc in his rows with Helen? because it was shown on TV.

Peoples hate for Helen clouded their judgement on Brian and Nikki's awful behaviour, and that's my perception.

okay lets put this to bed once and for all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWXVhj7saeM

skip to 23:11 when Marc admits to Brian he is antagonising him. That is a FACT that is out of his own mouth !!!

Now try and spin your way out of that one

Well I have never implied or said that anyone who disagreed with me is a "moron"...in fact I'm the one who has been patronised for my opinion on here, I've been totally respectful.

Facts are facts, and from what we saw (and that's what we have to go on) Marc was dragged into Brian and Helen's arguments BY BRIAN...that's what I saw.

I will happily admit when Marc does wrong and have done many times.

He didn't admit it at all...he was repeating something Brian said to him about being antagonising.

I thought they wouldnt accept his reasons and was surprised when they did.

If the best excuse of antagonising Brain or his fans have got is him splashing Brian in the pool then I win this argument.

This was kinda proven tonight when not one of the housemates could think of anything besides splashing him, once...that Marc did that antagonized Brian. Not even St Danny could think of anything that horrible Marc did to the poor gentle giant...

watch it again but this time listen to what Marc said not what you think he said, not what you would like him to say, what he actually said.

You may have noticed that I explained about how nick spoke of what he felt and perceived but you have not been able to understand why it's the truth.
Never mind, it's not important to me that you think what I think.

Yes, he said he had antagonised Brian but not in conjunction with Helen.

Oooooooohhhhhh. That must be Nicks agenda

I actually saw it when it was first broadcast, and the fact remains, a part from the pool splashing thing there has been no evidence that Marc antagonised Brian.

And none of the housemates saw anything besides the pool splashing either. Oh dear...

Fair play


Erm. Really?

I have to laugh because it's such a good try, it's exactly what Marc does too, declares himself the winner when nobody else is playing.

Precisely. That's why you cannot say Brian was not antagonised by Marc because it is how Brian felt and you cannot say that how someone feels is wrong or a lie. If I see a red car then it is a fact that that car is red. That's not my perception it is a bold fact. Some people here think Marc is a prat and some think he is a God. Neither of these are facts they are different people's perceptions of the guy. So for you to say that people here are wrong because they think Nick's nominations were perfectly reasonable or that they think Marc did antagonise Brian is beyond patronising.

Yes, it's as if 'I win' or 'I tell the truth' are somehow magic persuasive words, rendering everyone else incapable of disagreement, instead of just empty assertions.

apart from the fact he admits it ? which is very clear on the video. So even with a video of Marc saying he antagonised Brian you still think their is no evidence.

That was not CGI Marc I did not do a voice over of the Video. That is actually him saying those words.

That is very clear evidence. You wanted it based on facts, you wanted it based on the truth. You have the guy on video saying he does it and still you don't accept it.

Oops. Very patronising. That means "talking down to someone", by the way. Just so you know.

Well said, deluded or what?

Wel said, if Nick saw Marc as being nasty and picking on Brian I would take Nicks views over any viewer!

Me too. Nick is in there 24/7 so I think it's pretty arrogant for certain fm to call him a liar for saying what he has seen in the actual house, not in heavily edited highlights.