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Danny made Harry feel guilty about sticking up for Marc
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Marie4eva
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“Ever heard that saying about them coming for the communists and not speaking? Well Danny is the one who will speak up for you, no matter who you are.

Why Danny is being criticised for having a backbone is a mystery to me.”

Yeah but its not needed all the time. He only does it the majority of time to look good or to put his arch nemesis down...so he can gang up on him which isnt really fair. Thats not what you call having a backbone.
Flowes
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by Kopite1763:
“Exactly! Can you imagine the response of some, if it had been Marc who did all of the above ”

Oh he would be evil personified
chameleon212
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by pepipop:
“But who was he sticking up for? Harry and Nick are much closer to each other, for weeks, than he is to either one - by a long shot. They're 'allowed' to have disagreements with each other and why can't Harry have 'her' opinion on incidents in the house that are different from Nick - is she not allowed to do that?

Who exactly was Danny speaking up for, are the rest all dumb?”

In this instance he was speaking up for Nick whose reasons for nominating Marc were perfectly valid. I don't have a problem with Harry at all but I like to remain objective about housemates I like and I'm willing to admit Harry was in the wrong this time, she shouldn't have made a fuss over Nick's reasons for nominating and Danny was correct to point this out.
Marie4eva
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by Flowes:
“Yet according to BBOTS she's acing it! I think they watch a different highlights show”

Really? They should get someone mature handling that show like Davina so she can help them do proper analysis instead of it being run by Baby Rylan.
Stan_B
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by Marie4eva:
“Not really I think she made a valid point. It was slightly uncomfortable watching Aisleyne blame Marc for Brian after Nick did after he was nice to her. Harry was just being fair.

Danny sounded slightly idiotic trying to say Nick has his own opinion well if he did have his own opinions then he would have disagreed with Harry right after she said it. He needs to mind his own business.”

You've totally missed the point I was making. I haven't commented on whether Nick was right or wrong but if the positions had been reversed then Harry would have expected Nick to back her up regardless. She's becoming very manipulative.
ScarletStarlet
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“In this instance he was speaking up for Nick whose reasons for nominating Marc were perfectly valid. I don't have a problem with Harry at all but I like to remain objective about housemates I like and I'm willing to admit Harry was in the wrong this time, she shouldn't have made a fuss over Nick's reasons for nominating and Danny was correct to point this out.”

Can Nick not stick up for himself? Was Danny even involved in the conversation up until that point?
Marie4eva
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by Stan_B:
“She has double standards. If Nick had done that to her then she'd have gone schizo on him.”

Not really. She had a go at Nick because she felt that it was disrespectful that he just listened to other say nasty things about her when theyre in a relationship and care about each other.


She wasnt having a dig at Nick but moreso making him see how him blaming Marc was unfair and why he had to do what he had to do.
rainyafternoon
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“Danny is an interfering control freak. He sticks his long Pinocchino nose into everything and bosses people around. He hates Marc and is disgusted with Harry. Danny is the worst of the lot and I'd love to see his expression when Jack (hopefully) is evicted!”

Hear hear
Marie4eva
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by Stan_B:
“You've totally missed the point I was making. I haven't commented on whether Nick was right or wrong but if the positions had been reversed then Harry would have expected Nick to back her up regardless. She's becoming very manipulative.”

See comment above.
Eve Elle
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“In this instance he was speaking up for Nick whose reasons for nominating Marc were perfectly valid. I don't have a problem with Harry at all but I like to remain objective about housemates I like and I'm willing to admit Harry was in the wrong this time, she shouldn't have made a fuss over Nick's reasons for nominating and Danny was correct to point this out.”

Why shouldn't Harry have spoken up? Because she's a female?
Dr. Claw
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by ScarletStarlet:
“Can Nick not stick up for himself? Was Danny even involved in the conversation up until that point?”

of course not. danny is never involved until he injects himself into the argument to go against marc. does this every highlights show.

he reminds me of norris on coronation street. always has stick his nose into things that doesnt concern him. maybe danny will become just like him
Junipert
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“Again, it's not aggression. It's FRUSTRATION!!!”

Nope, Danny, is an aggressive, control freak.
Marie4eva
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by si2:
“i dont like Danny because he is sneeky. He keeps falsely calling Marc a bully when Marc is just having banter harmless fun. Danny is the real bully and trouble maker.”

I dont think he gets Mark's Banter even after spending so much time with him yet he calls what he has with the girls 'banter'. Still in cuddly baby phase flirty Banter mentality rather than real banter.
chameleon212
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Why shouldn't Harry have spoken up? Because she's a female? ”

No, because Nick (who I despise btw) should not be criticised over his reasons for nomination - it's part of the game and the reasons were accepted by BB so there is no need to probe the matter any further.
Flowes
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“In this instance he was speaking up for Nick whose reasons for nominating Marc were perfectly valid. I don't have a problem with Harry at all but I like to remain objective about housemates I like and I'm willing to admit Harry was in the wrong this time, she shouldn't have made a fuss over Nick's reasons for nominating and Danny was correct to point this out.”

She didn't disagree that his reasons were valid. She was making the point that Marc can't defend himself whilst in the house, whereas the person outside of it can say whatever they want about Marc.
chameleon212
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by Junipert:
“Nope, Danny, is an aggressive, control freak.”

Not true at all. Unless you misspelled Marc in which case, spot on!
Marie4eva
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Why shouldn't Harry have spoken up? Because she's a female? ”

You know what upto a point I felt like Danny had this view towards Harry like she shouldnt have spoken up because she's female against 'her man' when he said 'but what if Nick disagrees with that 'and Harry said 'thats fine' then to save himself he was like 'but everyone has their own opinions'...
chameleon212
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by Flowes:
“She didn't disagree that his reasons were valid. She was making the point that Marc can't defend himself whilst in the house, whereas the person outside of it can say whatever they want about Marc.”

Which in a way is admirable, it shows her strength of character and that she is better person than Marc.

However, she was still criticising Nick's reasons for nomination even if she agreed with the core content which is something I don't agree with. Nomination is part of the game, once they are over they are over.
Eve Elle
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“No, because Nick (who I despise btw) should not be criticised over his reasons for nomination - it's part of the game and the reasons were accepted by BB so there is no need to probe the matter any further.”

If Harry has questions about Nick's reasons for nominating, then I think she has that right. They are in a relationship after all. What they didn't need was Beaky adding his two cents.
Vicky.
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by Marie4eva:
“You know what upto a point I felt like Danny had this view towards Harry like she shouldnt have spoken up because she's female against 'her man' when he said 'but what if Nick disagrees with that 'and Harry said 'thats fine' then to save himself he was like 'but everyone has their own opinions'...”

Ignoring the fact that Harry was just saying HER opinion

Problem was, Harrys opinion favoured Marc in this instance. Which was why Danny got involved.

The hatred is strong in this one
Marie4eva
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“Which in a way is admirable, it shows her strength of character and that she is better person than Marc.

However, she was still criticising Nick's reasons for nomination even if she agreed with the core content which is something I don't agree with. Nomination is part of the game, once they are over they are over.”

I dont think it was a critcisim it was a more of a way to help see why Marc may have reacted the way he did and make Nick understand.
Kopite1763
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“Not true at all. Unless you misspelled Marc in which case, spot on!”

When exactly has Marc been aggressive...... And I'm talking along the lines of Danny smashing the pizza boxes and getting in Marc's face threatening him......when has Marc done anything like that?
MrJamGd
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“No, because Nick (who I despise btw) should not be criticised over his reasons for nomination - it's part of the game and the reasons were accepted by BB so there is no need to probe the matter any further.”

If Nick gives a reason for nominating Marc which Marc feels is untrue, and which is likely to impact public opinion on him, Marc has every right to challenge it.
ScarletStarlet
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by Kopite1763:
“When exactly has Marc been aggressive...... And I'm talking along the lines of Danny smashing the pizza boxes and getting in Marc's face threatening him......when has Marc done anything like that?”

He hasn't. But he has said some words. Jail him!
Marie4eva
30-06-2015
Originally Posted by Vicky.:
“Ignoring the fact that Harry was just saying HER opinion

Problem was, Harrys opinion favoured Marc in this instance. Which was why Danny got involved.

The hatred is strong in this one ”

Haha Exactly. I bet he'll nominate her next week if she stays this week for this reason.
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