Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Just goes to show he's not as smart as he and others think he is.”
“Just goes to show he's not as smart as he and others think he is.”
Exactly this Scarlett!!!
Who did Marc think had nominated Jack?
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Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Just goes to show he's not as smart as he and others think he is.”
“Just goes to show he's not as smart as he and others think he is.”
Lets have some fun with maths.
1 x Marc +
3 x Ex-Housemates with bags of outside information +
3 x days of live feed of the house +
2 x weeks of immunity +
4 x members of clique identified, to be disseminated.
=
2 x Marc's friends evicted -
4 x members of clique still there (1 nominated for eviction) -
1 Marc x nomination for eviction +
2 x Marc's allies nominated for eviction +
1 x irate Marc in DR raging about injustice.
Net Result = 1 x total plonker seething in the negative yield of all his efforts and proclamations of genius.
Shame, aww.
Originally Posted by jogur:
“It's fairly obvious that Jack and Harry have been put up for eviction because the producers want to save Marc. This looks like being a repeat of last year's awful final.
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“It's fairly obvious that Jack and Harry have been put up for eviction because the producers want to save Marc. This looks like being a repeat of last year's awful final.
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How has Harry 'been put up' for eviction? She received 4 nominations. She's up because of that, not because the producers engineered it. I was a bit surprised to see Jack up though with only 2 noms but again, the more up, the more money in votes. That's the only manipulation I see here.
Hope Marc and Harry stay, they're the only two HMs I like.
Originally Posted by sheils1:
“FFS why would he do that, he knows we see the nominations
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“FFS why would he do that, he knows we see the nominations
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Some possibilities:
* He was sure he was right.
* He thought that there was a good enough chance that he was right that it was worth a throw of the dice.
* He thought viewers would be influenced anyway.
Originally Posted by Darcyprincess:
“You need to open your eyes to Marc and see how duplicit he is and not as smart as you think he is! Marc was angry because he was put up and his plan backfired with all his so called mates like Sam, Joel and even thinking he had Nick, Harry and Aisleyne on side by pretending to be there for them didn't vote as he wanted. We had Joel nominate both Sam and Harry and Harry and Sam nominate each other and then both Nick and Aisleyne nominated him face to face. All his game playing shot to pieces!!!”
“You need to open your eyes to Marc and see how duplicit he is and not as smart as you think he is! Marc was angry because he was put up and his plan backfired with all his so called mates like Sam, Joel and even thinking he had Nick, Harry and Aisleyne on side by pretending to be there for them didn't vote as he wanted. We had Joel nominate both Sam and Harry and Harry and Sam nominate each other and then both Nick and Aisleyne nominated him face to face. All his game playing shot to pieces!!!”
Which HM was it who said Marc was using a tactic from military training, tear them down then build them up (or something like that), when he clashed with a HM and then made up with them, so that they'd think they were on the same side? I think it was one of Nick, Joel, or Danny.
Originally Posted by viva.espana:
“ How has Harry 'been put up' for eviction? She received 4 nominations. She's up because of that, not because the producers engineered it.
I was a bit surprised to see Jack up though with only 2 noms but again, the more up, the more money in votes. That's the only manipulation I see here.
Hope Marc and Harry stay, they're the only two HMs I like.”
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How has Harry 'been put up' for eviction? She received 4 nominations. She's up because of that, not because the producers engineered it. I was a bit surprised to see Jack up though with only 2 noms but again, the more up, the more money in votes. That's the only manipulation I see here.
Hope Marc and Harry stay, they're the only two HMs I like.”
It was reasonable for Harry to be up, but since BB keeps changing the rule that translates nominations into who's up, it's also reasonable to be suspicious. Using the traditional "the two or more with the most nominations" rule, Harry wouldn't have been up.
I don't think it's true that the more up, the more money in votes. Indeed, the most votes might be when only two are up, if lots of viewers care about the result.
But in any case, I don't think the money from votes makes that much different to BB or C5. If they think Marc is an important factor in the ratings, then keeping him will be more important than trying to get more money from votes.
Originally Posted by HenryBBB:
“Was it only Sam and Harry who nominated him?”
“Was it only Sam and Harry who nominated him?”
Yes. He had only two nominations.
Originally Posted by Veri:
“Yes. He had only two nominations.”
“Yes. He had only two nominations.”
Disgraceful that he's up after receiving just two nominations.
Originally Posted by Angie_Plasty:
“I thought he was just generally, and rather hopefully, trying to smear Danny and Cristian as traitors in the viewer's minds. Or maybe trying to convince himself that the clique was turning on each other. Or a bit of both.
He was fuming after noms, especially about Nick, and basically pleading for us to vote for the "pricks" and "liars" who plague him. I'm not sure there was much thought going into any of it.”
“I thought he was just generally, and rather hopefully, trying to smear Danny and Cristian as traitors in the viewer's minds. Or maybe trying to convince himself that the clique was turning on each other. Or a bit of both.
He was fuming after noms, especially about Nick, and basically pleading for us to vote for the "pricks" and "liars" who plague him. I'm not sure there was much thought going into any of it.”
I think you've hit the nail on the head.
Failing to convince some housemates that the clique (or in this case, a group of people who just happen to not like Marc) would start turning, I think Marc's trying to convince himself and the viewers that it's actually happening, when it's quite clearly not. They have no need to turn on each other while the common enemy is still in the house.
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