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Three 'Feel at Home' Data Speeds
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GreenLantern
03-08-2015
On what planet is 100mb loads of data ?

They use the term a load of data elsewhere :

http://shop.ee.co.uk/campaigns/summer-sim-from-ee

On the summer sim, that's 100gb per month

So per day that equates to 3.22gb of data

So what is it then, 100mb or 3.22gb?
plymouthbloke1974
03-08-2015
You're not likely to rattle through 100GB while on holiday are you?
lightspeed2398
03-08-2015
You won't rattle through 100Gb, but a lot of people are now uploading photos and videos to Facebook, Twitter, Snapchat, Instagram. A holiday for me at least used to be two weeks abroad away from everything, not that way anymore it seems, for people below the age of about 40 it seems to be let's show off. Add onto that maps and the like and you've got more than 100Mb a day!
jonmorris
03-08-2015
I'd settle for something between 100MB and 100MB...
plymouthbloke1974
03-08-2015
It's a step in the right direction nonetheless
jaffboy151
03-08-2015
For anyone aged 20 and below these days (not me I'm afraid) with the amount of social media and entertainment data naturally consume as part of there life 100mb would last I guess 5-10 minutes..
Snapchat can use a massive amount of data as literally everyone seems to add everyone else and it's jam packed with video clips, all short and not high resolution, but it's relentless from 100s of people all the time, all looks like junk to me but the youngsters seem to love it..
For this section of users having 100mb limit is as useful as having a 30 second call plan in the 1990s.
They are way off the mark this
plymouthbloke1974
03-08-2015
In the 1990's.... Data in Europe was £3/MB... Three offer free data because they throttle the shit out of it.... If you want data abroad that works properly there is a cost... until at least December next year lol
Gigabit
03-08-2015
There is no actual "cost". It doesn't cost the operator any more to offer data abroad than it does at home but they do it because until now they've been able to get away with it.

This rubbish about reduced network investment, reduced profits, etc. is complete crap.
jonmorris
03-08-2015
Operators once made a fortune from charging 10-12p a text, and of course from offering bundles of 15 or 60 minutes of calls per month, so when data came along it was quite clear that nobody wanted to offer it too cheap.
GreenLantern
03-08-2015
Barring their crappy but slowly improving home network, Vodafone, £3 a day, non capped data that comes out of your home bundle

For me IMO, that seems like the best deal.
plymouthbloke1974
03-08-2015
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“There is no actual "cost". It doesn't cost the operator any more to offer data abroad than it does at home but they do it because until now they've been able to get away with it.

This rubbish about reduced network investment, reduced profits, etc. is complete crap.”

The foreign network charges the home network a wholesale rate, so of course there is a cost!
GreenLantern
03-08-2015
Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974:
“The foreign network charges the home network a wholesale rate, so of course there is a cost!”

I mean that's the standard variant

But with all the partner network and same company networks and franchised branded networks, I'm not so sure its that simple anymore.
Gigabit
03-08-2015
Originally Posted by plymouthbloke1974:
“The foreign network charges the home network a wholesale rate, so of course there is a cost!”

A very tiny, effectively meaningless cost that is easily covered by the UK operations of the network.
lightspeed2398
03-08-2015
Instead of all of this coming standard, I prefer a model of if you want just UK data with no bells and whistles, either abroad or at home you can have that or if you want the extras like Spotify, free roaming and perhaps in the future some minutes on a LTE-Broadcast stream with two different pricing structures obviously. Either that or a model of unlimited handset data with various capped speeds with limited tethering although I doubt that the networks would go for that because most people wouldn't notice the difference.
jchamier
03-08-2015
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“Operators once made a fortune from charging 10-12p a text, and of course from offering bundles of 15 or 60 minutes of calls per month, so when data came along it was quite clear that nobody wanted to offer it too cheap.”

And the problem of all these PAYG users so all traffic now has to run in a tunnel to the home operator so the credit can be checked in real time. I remember when you got a roaming bill 3 months after coming home!
callmediva
03-08-2015
Originally Posted by squawkBOX:
“For those in France at the moment, how are speeds across the three roaming partners? i.e. is there a difference in observed experience of Bouygues, Orange and Free?”

I was in France a couple of weeks ago and in Central rural France I couldn't get any form of signal at all, on any service
GreenLantern
03-08-2015
Speaking of France

The higher tiered French plans are now pan European on SFR and Orange

So your data mins texts work anywhere in EU and other countries EEC etc

Seems like the way we should go asap.

I guess Vodafone are leaning that way with Vodafone Premium Business Traveller 5 or whatever that top tariff for 95 quid is with Eurotraveller built in fully.
Jmacp
11-08-2015
I'd just like to echo the comments whilst in Austria.

Facebook / Twitter not an issue everything else chuggy and almost non existent.

Google maps, play store youtube almost next to useless.

Would I be correct in think that whilst in Austria my traffic is routed to the UK where presumably some QOS is applied?


John
japaul
11-08-2015
Three may have eased throttling on downloading apps from Google Play. I've been in Italy for a couple of weeks and in my first week, as others have reported it was throttled to GPRS speeds just like streaming. During my second week though it started working normally and all my apps updated themselves easily and it stayed like that.

Of course it could have been a glitch in Three's systems but streaming was still throttled.
jonmorris
11-08-2015
Video streaming throttled or blocked completely? If it's the former, that's an improvement too.

In my experience everywhere I've been, video streaming has not worked AT ALL. Not even a low quality stream - literally zilch.
japaul
11-08-2015
All streaming, video and audio was throttled to the equivalent of a bad GPRS connection which I think for video looks the same as if it's blocked but data was flowing and youtube would show the occasional frame after a minute or so!

This is with the underlying speed capability being equivalent to DC-HSDPA speeds.

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/1394984274
Gigabit
11-08-2015
Spotify wouldn't work for me in Ireland, even on lowest quality.

Literally all I could do was browse the Internet.
jonmorris
11-08-2015
I found that I could get (and send) email, do speed tests, post on Facebook and Tweet. Everything else was pretty much useless.

Now, that's obviously fine for a lot of people - but it's certainly nothing like the same as at home.
plymouthbloke1974
11-08-2015
That's why the ASA need to be informed
Gigabit
11-08-2015
Originally Posted by jonmorris:
“I found that I could get (and send) email, do speed tests, post on Facebook and Tweet. Everything else was pretty much useless.

Now, that's obviously fine for a lot of people - but it's certainly nothing like the same as at home.”

They keep advertising the ability to upload photos but I certainly couldn't do that!
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