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Old 07-07-2015, 15:43
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Jason TBH has also jumped ship from Meg / James / Jeff. He knows from Clay / Shelli that they lied to him and when he went to confront them they did it again so he feels bottom of the totem pole.

He said to Day he was going to pull an Audrey next week and act all depressed and sad. His whole game right now if putting up bigger targets so this Juliz is perfect because it sets up Juliz / Audrey.

Jason thinks he is the No.1 target for the Austin / Vanessa / Juliz side but he does not know that they and even Clay want to get out James next if they win power.
So he's going to play the "anyone but me" game? Can't stand that sort of game play.

Day and Jason are weak. I thought Day would be pulling things out the bag but she's playing this all wrong. She still has about 48 hours to prove herself but right now I don't care that she's leaving; she's had a golden opportunity here to flip votes, not only with the Last Laugh twist, but figuring out the twin twist, and she's used neither to her advantage thus far (although, twin twist is down to Jason's big gob).

Why would anyone wanna continue to align themselves with half the house when they know they're bottom of the totem pole? Go to the other side - there's plenty of people to talk to - Steve, Vanessa, John, Becky, Liz, Austin... - and try and team up with them instead.

Day doesn't see the opportunity to get them on side, she has nothing to lose by going to them to campaign and really throw everything she has at them, but for some reason she just doesn't wanna work with them.
Jason's the same, they both seem to not trust the outsiders and seem keen on sticking with Jeff/James/Meg. I understand why Jason may wanna tread carefully but Day should try - it doesn't matter if she doesn't trust them - she'll be walking out the door anyway, so why not put some faith in them and see if they'll keep you? If they do, then of course you can trust them moving forward in the short term.

As Amanda would say, "it just doesn't make any sense!"
Their games have been awful in the past 24 hours; when it's come down to having to really play, they've both flopped. So disappointing.
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Old 07-07-2015, 15:47
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Becky is just a floater. I doubt she is loyal to anyone except Jackie.
She may well be a floater, but she's definitely playing the game. Watch her talking to Austin in the bathroom, she is all about the "outsiders alliance". She told him Shelli wanted a side alliance with her. They agreed Shelli and Clay are playing both sides. I don't recall the fb time, but it was at the same time Shelli was telling Meg about her being the renom. Becky then went upstairs with Jackie and gave every appearance of being Shelli's best friend ever.
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Old 07-07-2015, 15:51
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Da'Vonne is more concerned about being seen to be right, than playing BB. That's why she couldn't bide her time to nail Audrey. She wanted everyone to see how clever she was to have figured her out. Same with her discovery of the twins.
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Old 07-07-2015, 15:55
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Another thing about the twins.

Shelli told Clay that the producers were seriously considering using her twin brother, wanted to know everything about him, but obviously went another way.
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Old 07-07-2015, 16:03
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She may well be a floater, but she's definitely playing the game. Watch her talking to Austin in the bathroom, she is all about the "outsiders alliance". She told him Shelli wanted a side alliance with her. They agreed Shelli and Clay are playing both sides. I don't recall the fb time, but it was at the same time Shelli was telling Meg about her being the renom. Becky then went upstairs with Jackie and gave every appearance of being Shelli's best friend ever.
Did not see that. Happy Becky is playing at least.

Her No.1 is hundred percent Jackie though and they want Audrey out.

Happy they're onto Shelli and Clay <333

I would LOVE a pre-jury Clay boot but I know it's not going to happen.

Think Jason / James / Audrey / Austin / Juliz / Vanessa / Steve

3 of these won't make Jury. I am certain.
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Old 07-07-2015, 16:04
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Another thing about the twins.

Shelli told Clay that the producers were seriously considering using her twin brother, wanted to know everything about him, but obviously went another way.
Why not just bring Julia in this week. Instead of dragging out an unshocking twist on Week 5. Just seems a waste of time to me.

They will all know by then.
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Old 07-07-2015, 16:06
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Da'Vonne is more concerned about being seen to be right, than playing BB. That's why she couldn't bide her time to nail Audrey. She wanted everyone to see how clever she was to have figured her out. Same with her discovery of the twins.
To be fair, she only mentioned the Liz thing to Jason.
She mentioned it in James' presence in the morning, but none of them was really taking it seriously at that point. By the afternoon, the only person she was discussing it at length to in a serious manner was Jason, and she didn't say a word to anyone else all night long. Jason went and told James and Meg at around 05:00 this morning (UK time) without Day's permission.

Day didn't look too upset when she found out he had told them, though, so I doubt she was going to use the information as some sort of master plan to stay.
She could still use it to her advantage. Go tell the twins the house is onto them, but she's willing to work with them... scare them into voting for her by saying the rest of the house wants you out.

I don't know, there's a number of options for her, but she doesn't seem willing to work with that side of the house, so goodbye, Day...
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Old 07-07-2015, 16:06
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So he's going to play the "anyone but me" game? Can't stand that sort of game play.

Day and Jason are weak. I thought Day would be pulling things out the bag but she's playing this all wrong. She still has about 48 hours to prove herself but right now I don't care that she's leaving; she's had a golden opportunity here to flip votes, not only with the Last Laugh twist, but figuring out the twin twist, and she's used neither to her advantage thus far (although, twin twist is down to Jason's big gob).

Why would anyone wanna continue to align themselves with half the house when they know they're bottom of the totem pole? Go to the other side - there's plenty of people to talk to - Steve, Vanessa, John, Becky, Liz, Austin... - and try and team up with them instead.

Day doesn't see the opportunity to get them on side, she has nothing to lose by going to them to campaign and really throw everything she has at them, but for some reason she just doesn't wanna work with them.
Jason's the same, they both seem to not trust the outsiders and seem keen on sticking with Jeff/James/Meg. I understand why Jason may wanna tread carefully but Day should try - it doesn't matter if she doesn't trust them - she'll be walking out the door anyway, so why not put some faith in them and see if they'll keep you? If they do, then of course you can trust them moving forward in the short term.

As Amanda would say, "it just doesn't make any sense!"
Their games have been awful in the past 24 hours; when it's come down to having to really play, they've both flopped. So disappointing.
That's how his alliance have been playing though.

Jason was loyal to James / Meg / Jeff and told them so much info because he thought he had a solid alliance with them. The Day lie which James did once Jason knew confirmed to Jason that the group where least connected with Dayson so now paranoid Jason thinks the whole hose wanted either him or Da'Vonne out and there was a big conspiracy if Becky was HoH Jason would be voted out.
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Old 07-07-2015, 16:08
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To be fair, she only mentioned the Liz thing to Jason.
She mentioned it in James' presence in the morning, but none of them was really taking it seriously at that point. By the afternoon, the only person she was discussing it at length to in a serious manner was Jason, and she didn't say a word to anyone else all night long. Jason went and told James and Meg at around 05:00 this morning (UK time) without Day's permission.

Day didn't look too upset when she found out he had told them, though, so I doubt she was going to use the information as some sort of master plan to stay.
She could still use it to her advantage. Go tell the twins the house is onto them, but she's willing to work with them... scare them into voting for her by saying the rest of the house wants you out.

I don't know, there's a number of options for her, but she doesn't seem willing to work with that side of the house, so goodbye, Day...
Austin / Juliz are at fault though too. They think Da'Vonne was one of the heads of the snake for that BS 8 alliance and that James is running the house.

They're clueless. It is certainly better for them to vote off Meg but I doubt they would.

Only one who might see it is Vanessa.
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Old 07-07-2015, 16:15
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Da'vonne said on JUNE 26TH: "The girl in her picture does not match the girl in the house." She is so observant!
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Old 07-07-2015, 16:23
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She could still use it to her advantage. Go tell the twins the house is onto them, but she's willing to work with them... scare them into voting for her by saying the rest of the house wants you out.

I don't know, there's a number of options for her, but she doesn't seem willing to work with that side of the house, so goodbye, Day...
As much as I enjoy Meg on the feeds, I'd be happy if Da' stayed, if she worked for it and earned it. There's still time and she told the BY crew she intended to "become that girl's best friend" from here on out....
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Old 07-07-2015, 16:24
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That's how his alliance have been playing though.

Jason was loyal to James / Meg / Jeff and told them so much info because he thought he had a solid alliance with them. The Day lie which James did once Jason knew confirmed to Jason that the group where least connected with Dayson so now paranoid Jason thinks the whole hose wanted either him or Da'Vonne out and there was a big conspiracy if Becky was HoH Jason would be voted out.
If he believes that, then his game is even worse than I thought because surely you'd be willing to take the plunge to the other side and hope they're more willing to work with you instead of stabbing you in the back like his "allies"?

The two of them have absolutely nothing to lose by appealing to the other side for votes. Fact is, since the feeds came on, they've never liked/trusted Steve or Vanessa, so they won't even consider approaching them.
They have ammo to use against Liz, but yet again, won't approach her to get her and Austin on side.

Jason is just going to end up being a number for Jeff/Meg/James when Day goes. He'll never hold any real power because Jeff and Meg have superior social games and open their arms to the other side whilst Jason refuses to even consider them as an option.
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Old 07-07-2015, 16:35
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Austin / Juliz are at fault though too. They think Da'Vonne was one of the heads of the snake for that BS 8 alliance and that James is running the house.

They're clueless. It is certainly better for them to vote off Meg but I doubt they would.

Only one who might see it is Vanessa.
But that's why Day needs to speak to them. Put it all out there.

This happened, that happened... but it's in the past, I'm on the outs just like you. The house knows you're a twin, Liz, but if you keep me, you'll have five people on your side to help try and protect you, and we would gain another number if/when your twin is introduced. If I go this week, you're 100% next because the rest of the house wants you out.

Simple, basic, standard campaigning of BB... yet, she doesn't seem to want anything to do with any of the outsiders. There's still time, so maybe I'm being a little hasty, but after watching her (and Jason) last night after the Last Laugh twist was over, I don't have faith in her campaigning skills, but we'll see.
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Old 07-07-2015, 16:50
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So is

Liz - "Thick-ums"

Julia - "Cruella"

lol

Audrey GODDESS surviving <333
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Old 07-07-2015, 18:38
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Clay asking John for alliance names for the awful Jeff / Jackie / Clay / Shelli / John alliance.

John seems as interested as I am.....
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Old 07-07-2015, 19:44
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STFU Clay!!!
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Old 07-07-2015, 20:28
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Audrey is still playing too hard.
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Old 07-07-2015, 20:49
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Da'Vonne better talk to Audrey!!!!

I want some entertainment.
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Old 07-07-2015, 23:25
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Day's use of her knowledge of Liz's dual identity has been woefully inept...now she's hoping no-one tells Liz before Thursday, so that she can use that as leverage to persuade/coerce Liz into voting to keep her over Meg...Huh??? What POSSIBLE benefit was there in telling the whole house that Liz was a twin?
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Old 07-07-2015, 23:37
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The house is going to quiz Liz tonight during their chat show on feeds. Popcorn at the ready! I wonder if the DR has briefed her for what to answer if they actually do discover the secret (which they have).

Speaking of DR, Da'vonne said today that the DR has been consistently 'asking' why she doesn't team up with Vanessa as a duo. Subtle hints or what? :P
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Old 07-07-2015, 23:47
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So i understand, but with Liz/Julia NOT facing eviction this week, this helps Day how?
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Old 08-07-2015, 01:11
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So i understand, but with Liz/Julia NOT facing eviction this week, this helps Day how?
It doesn't really
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Old 08-07-2015, 01:16
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I get the feeling Audrey wants to be good with Jason again. If he just played the game and toughed it up and listened to her BS he could be safe with her.

Clay / Shelli major arrogant right now.

Happy though that this alliance with Vanessa and Austin will confirm to them how they're playing all sides. Get them out!!!!
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Old 08-07-2015, 01:17
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Da'Vonne does not want to campaign to Audrey because she is worried she would use whatever she said against her next week!!!

FFS wake up girl. You need the votes otherwise there will be NO next week.
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Old 08-07-2015, 01:44
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The Da'vonne / Vanessa talk is happening. She is giving Da her vote this week because she wants to work with her (and Meg hasnt even asked her for her vote). Just like production wanted
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