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"I voted to evict Marc 50 times", and why fans are right to be upset...
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nattoyaki
05-07-2015
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Yes, it's 'who goes, you decide' with a VTE until the final when it changes to 'who do you want to win' with a VTS.”

'Who goes, you may have a slight chance of helping to save someone' doesn't quite have the same ring to it, does it?

Originally Posted by J Swift:
“Summing up the mood:

Victor Ebuwa and Alex Sibley's video reaction to Marc being evicted - "Why!?? Why!!!"

https://twitter.com/DirteeJesus/stat...18491687886849”

It's 'Y, Y' - that video was from a game of hangman and has been edited with the eviction noise put in after

But lol at Victor looking up from his phone, saying '****', and then calmly going straight back to it!

Could have been about anything though - as in 'why (not Jack)?' or whoever.

Originally Posted by J Swift:
“I have to keep reminding people, they're trying to make an entertaining show
...”

Well they've failed miserably for a lot of people, and a lot of folk (the two groups obviously overlap) preferred the first two/few weeks (some felt 4 in 4 out was just about bearable, some didn't).

Originally Posted by Sun Tzu.:
“Got the most evicted votes. That is why he is gone. He would have been gone two weeks ago if the nomination process was normal. Count yourself lucky he lasted as long as he did.”

There's that too!
SULLA
05-07-2015
Originally Posted by Verence:
“If Marc got most votes to be evicted then the result most certainly did reflect audience opinion”

You clearly don't understand how vote to evict works.
J Swift
05-07-2015
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“You clearly don't understand how vote to evict works.”

We probably need a sticky thread for that one
J Swift
05-07-2015
Originally Posted by nattoyaki:
“Well they've failed miserably for a lot of people, and a lot of folk (the two groups obviously overlap) preferred the first two/few weeks (some felt 4 in 4 out was just about bearable, some didn't).”

The fact they spent half an episode showing Eileen having teddies and feathers dropped on her in a bath tub tells you how difficult it was to piece a highlights show together back then

Most viewers won't have the patience to stick with that kind of thing, and viewers figures dropped into new lows ... So credit to the producers for pulling it back

You only had to look around this forum ... No one was posting until 4 in 4 out
keeping_it_rea1
05-07-2015
Originally Posted by J Swift:
“I don't care where you stand on the love him or hate him debate - I think that's been done .. Go shout your opinion into a well for all the good it'll do

The reason fans are upset is because the vote didn't reflect audience opinion ... On every chart and viewers' poll and betting odd, Marc's been favourite to win all week - and by a landslide
http://www.bbspy.co.uk/bb16/popularity-poll/week-7

Today I hear from someone connected to the show that producers hadn't counted on the number of repeat votes from people who (obviously) really wanted to get Marc out .. People were voting 20, 30, 50 times - with Vote to Evict, it's a lot easier to get someone out than keep someone in

When they realised what way the vote was going they told Emma to make the unusual announcement that the vote was "difficult", and that the public really needed to "think" about who they were voting for .. A blunder on their part, as next week's task was planned around having Marc and Danny still in”

I've never seen anyone! in any big brother in history get screwed over like Marc was ....what a total farcical and joke it all turned out to be

idiots...
yellowlabbie
05-07-2015
Originally Posted by keeping_it_rea1:
“I've never seen anyone! in any big brother in history get screwed over like Marc was ....what a total farcical and joke it all turned out to be

idiots...”

How was he screwed over, he was immune from nomination for several weeks.
WhatJoeThinks
05-07-2015
Originally Posted by J Swift:
“I don't care where you stand on the love him or hate him debate - I think that's been done .. Go shout your opinion into a well for all the good it'll do

The reason fans are upset is because the vote didn't reflect audience opinion ... On every chart and viewers' poll and betting odd, Marc's been favourite to win all week - and by a landslide
http://www.bbspy.co.uk/bb16/popularity-poll/week-7

Today I hear from someone connected to the show that producers hadn't counted on the number of repeat votes from people who (obviously) really wanted to get Marc out .. People were voting 20, 30, 50 times - with Vote to Evict, it's a lot easier to get someone out than keep someone in

When they realised what way the vote was going they told Emma to make the unusual announcement that the vote was "difficult", and that the public really needed to "think" about who they were voting for .. A blunder on their part, as next week's task was planned around having Marc and Danny still in”

The vote did reflect audience opinion. Marc may have topped the Who's your favourite housemate? polls but he also topped the Who's your least favourite housemate? polls, and Vote to Evict reflects the latter. As for betting odds, there's much more art than science involved. And the odds don't actually reflect reality, like some sort of quantum probability, they reflect how the bookies want to make the gamble as attractive as possible to the punters, while bearing in mind the losses if they have to pay out.

[Edit] I realize this has probably already been said. To be honest I've only just found this thread and didn't want to wade through 11 pages. I only read the OP.
keeping_it_rea1
05-07-2015
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“The vote did reflect audience opinion. Marc may have topped the Who's your favourite housemate? polls but he also topped the Who's your least favourite housemate? polls, and Vote to Evict reflects the latter. As for betting odds, there's much more art than science involved. And the odds don't actually reflect reality, like some sort of quantum probability, they reflect how the bookies want to make the gamble as attractive as possible to the punters, while bearing in mind the losses if they have to pay out.

[Edit] I realize this has probably already been said. To be honest I've only just found this thread and didn't want to wade through 11 pages. I only read the OP. ”

Marc was voted out because every supporter of every other HM was frightened out of there minds that marc was going to win over there favorite, when the idiot bright spark producers decided to make it "vote to evict" they sealed his fate

if it was "vote to save" marc would have romped it in and gone on to win ..most likely

total screw job, he never stood a change from that very moment that asinine decision was made..

every other house mates supporters ganged up on him, he was like an injured kazala in the African jungle and all the hungry hyenas pounced, marc didn't have a single chance of surviving....
Mo_Park1
05-07-2015
If they wanted marc to stay it would have been a vote to save and not to evict.
They didnt so they didnt.
GibsonSG
06-07-2015
Originally Posted by J Swift:
“The fact they spent half an episode showing Eileen having teddies and feathers dropped on her in a bath tub tells you how difficult it was to piece a highlights show together back then

Most viewers won't have the patience to stick with that kind of thing, and viewers figures dropped into new lows ... So credit to the producers for pulling it back

You only had to look around this forum ... No one was posting until 4 in 4 out”

I'm not sure if they didn't have enough of a story for the hl's or they are just incompetent. That was the good thing about the live feed you did at least see stuff they keep from you in the hl's.
yellowlabbie
06-07-2015
Originally Posted by Mo_Park1:
“If they wanted marc to stay it would have been a vote to save and not to evict.
They didnt so they didnt.”

Yes, they could so easily have changed it but they didn't want to.
Veri
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by keeping_it_rea1:
“Marc was voted out because every supporter of every other HM was frightened out of there minds that marc was going to win over there favorite, when the idiot bright spark producers decided to make it "vote to evict" they sealed his fate

if it was "vote to save" marc would have romped it in and gone on to win ..most likely

total screw job, he never stood a change from that very moment that asinine decision was made..

every other house mates supporters ganged up on him, he was like an injured kazala in the African jungle and all the hungry hyenas pounced, marc didn't have a single chance of surviving....”

It's been vote to evict all along this series. So it's not like the producers "decided to make it 'vote to evict'" just for Marc.

Since it wouldn't have taken anywhere near "every supporter of every other HM" to get him out, there's no reason to think that's what happened. Besides, there are plenty of people who don't like Marc but who'd still rather he won than some of the others. There are also people who aren't fans of any HM who vote.

Popular HMs who deserve to stay in the show survive votes to evict. Freddie survived vote after vote in bb10, for example, as did Gina and Dexter in bb14.
nattoyaki
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by J Swift:
“The fact they spent half an episode showing Eileen having teddies and feathers dropped on her in a bath tub tells you how difficult it was to piece a highlights show together back then

Most viewers won't have the patience to stick with that kind of thing, and viewers figures dropped into new lows ... So credit to the producers for pulling it back

You only had to look around this forum ... No one was posting until 4 in 4 out”

There have been duff episodes since 4 in 4 out, the incompetent producers haven't been changed.

It was the producers who panicked after just a few low rated shows, and threw everything but the kitchen sink at the series, rather than having confidence in the format and plans they already had.

I was on the forum and noticed no great immediate pick up in posting after 4 in 4 out. It's gradually picked up from the beginning as we get to know the HMs and find favourites as it always does. Drama unfolding always gives it a boost. The legends did lead to a lot of activity on here but much of it was negative, and a lot of people agree it's ruined the series. If they hadn't gone in there would have been natural drama anyway.

You're just about the only person on here I've seen go on and on about what a wonderful job the producers have done and how they saved the series

Originally Posted by Veri:
“It's been vote to evict all along this series. So it's not like the producers "decided to make it 'vote to evict'" just for Marc.

Since it wouldn't have taken anywhere near "every supporter of every other HM" to get him out, there's no reason to think that's what happened. Besides, there are plenty of people who don't like Marc but who'd still rather he won than some of the others. There are also people who aren't fans of any HM who vote.

Popular HMs who deserve to stay in the show survive votes to evict. Freddie survived vote after vote in bb10, for example, as did Gina and Dexter in bb14.”

Spot on!
J Swift
12-07-2015
Remember I said it had been some unprecedented multi-votes which got Marc out?

@HarryAmelia_
So I've just discovered somebody has spent £46,000 on their phone bill keeping me in this month 😱...

https://twitter.com/HarryAmelia_/sta...05132987793408
WhatJoeThinks
12-07-2015
Originally Posted by J Swift:
“Remember I said it had been some unprecedented multi-votes which got Marc out?

@HarryAmelia_
So I've just discovered somebody has spent £46,000 on their phone bill keeping me in this month 😱...

https://twitter.com/HarryAmelia_/sta...05132987793408”

Not the most reliable source in the world, is it?
But
12-07-2015
Originally Posted by Lushness:
“I know.....why would you? The shit really isn't that important! ”

Depends on how much money you put on Marc to be evicted at the bookies you could make a killing
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