If you go out here in the south east with five friends that's one round of drinks!


It's not necessarily a case of like or dislike even, some people just like/need to feel invested in the show. It's an awful lot of money to some sure, but it's relative. Marc spends 2/3 of that amount on whiskey - and 3 times a week.


Yep.


Very very good point.

It's not the Samaritans they need .... it's the nearest loony bin

I do remember back in BB2 there was an actual Helpline for people who were distraught when the series ended

Or 65% who don't like today's manufactured reality show contestants. Marc's as real as Helen's boobs.

Bazinger the whole forum

Oh I don't really judge anyone that does. Each to their own. I just personally prefer to spend my pittance on something that will benefit me

have to disagree he was the reallest one in there.and like helen wood or not she tells it like it is.if marc were fake and manufactured he would have been a bit more careful in his words and actions.but the guy dont give a ****.and I like that.hes going to have a lot more success than the default winner anyway.hes already garnered a huge fanbase.

It has died as you say, it just not BB anymore.

I think most of the forum would probably admit to it

We'll have to disagree. His fans are welcome to him.

I really wish I could have been a fly on the wall production team's wall this week as I bet it would have been fascinating seeing all the meetings.

1) Can we make Marc immune?
The first question to be asked was surely whether they could, for a further week, keep Marc off the chopping block altogether and, if so, how? Were friends and family nominations considered where they could prime the relatives who to vote for? Could they set a task which Marc would surely win, gaining himself immunity in the process? And if they had a plan in mind, would the public buy it. Actually, no. Five times is excessive even if they're desperate. They couldn't make Marc immune again...

2) Marc is going to be up. How can we save him?
Putting anyone up for the public vote is a risk. There may be events across the week out of the producers control which they simply have to show as they have long term impact in the House and therefore they have to alter plans accordingly. The simplest way to save him would be to simply switch the vote to Vote to Save; he was favourite to win; he should have had enough support to survive and they would probably lose Sam into the bargain. Maybe they thought this would be too obvious a maneuver as well; a clear indication they were intending to save Marc? If they thought he had a chance to win they maybe didn't want the bad taste which graced Helen's victory a year ago; the continual fixing would have certainly resulted in that. So...

3) Harry, Jack or Sam?
I think this week, for once and for all, answers the questions whether the show is now scripted - neither of Marc's main rivals, in Harry and Jack, had enough impetus to build a vote to evict behind them outside of Marc's fans. Unfortunately for them, this coincided with a breakdown in Aisleyne's friendship with Marc, resulting in barbs being flung and exposing the argumentative side of Marc. Jack, placed front and centre as main concierge for the task, also had issues but embraced them all and actually found a comical edge which had been missing for a while and, in turn, started to find support. In what I see as a panic, they turned to try and shove Harry out of the door with a very bad edit for her on Thursday night. But by then they must have realised that Harry had had a relatively quiet Thursday outside a disagreement with Jack over cutlery where she hardly disgraced herself?

4) How can we solve a problem like the Marc haters?
Friday morning. Approximately twelve hours prior to the eviction. Footage is being pursued, cut, edited for the night's show. The anti-Harry edit from the night before has presumably seen and uplift for her in the vote, mostly away from Jack. Meanwhile the anti-Marc vote is as strong and steady as ever. The Friday highlights offer a hope that they can sway last minute voters but they have very little to play with; the key incidents revolve around Jack and the rebellion which show him in a decent, if not comical, light. Marc has a hand in the prank but then is almost a bystander and actually tries to abide with Big Brother's rules. Harry has a very quiet day. They have the cutlery argument but, maybe after feedback on social media, decide it wouldn't help Marc that much. They've played all of their cards and have been left with the joker. The anti-Marc vote is sustained, the pro-Marc vote is split... they've contrived to boot the favourite to win out of the door.

I completely agree, I'm the same - never even voted once in ten years watching


I'm reminded of Monty Python's parrot sketch...and Endemol is the pet shop owner

I find that very insulting (if true) to the public.

Picking up on the how times people vote point, if it was vote to save some people will still vote 40 or 50 times so the problem is still there.

It's a good idea if you put a twenty pound bet on at 16-1 for him to be evicted good profit

I dont know about wether most would admit it but i defo advocate it as a statutory discaimer on all posts in the BB section ; "if you watch BB you need to get a life ya looser !"

It is, and friends and family will always be voting like this

But when you've got a 3 or 4-way Vote to Stay, it doesn't matter who gets 16 bazzillion votes like this - because only one person leaves

So it's much harder to rig

Ha ha ha, he did give a s**t when they called him out over his behaviour towards Brian, he would only admit one incident and sulked, ranted and raved about the valid accusation. His face when Emma showed a vt which included the names he called Brian was priceless..

More people disliked him than any other housemate and he was voted out, As BB says "who goes, YOU decide" The voters decided and he went. VTE was always the norm and vote to save is the new way and people are not deciding who goes but who stays when they vote to save.

No, his fans don't have a right to be upset that he was evicted under the same rules that every other housemate has ever been evicted under. Multiple votes always happen, every single eviction. 50 times is nothing compared to what people have bragged about in the past.

His fans seriously seem to be kicking up a fuss because the producers didn't give him immunity all the way through. That level of entitlement is part of the reason he was booted out. Just be glad that the producers fixed it for him for so long, otherwise he'd have been voted out weeks ago (the very first time he was up).

Not many would spend their hard earned money to vote Sam or Harry out, but those who supported Danny and Christian would seize the opportunity to get a rival out.

Whoever was scared of Marc winning the show rather than their favourite had a good reason of voting him out. And they did.

It's only the same as the forum members who brag that they are going to vote for one of the girls 10/20/30+ times. It's sad really that people go to those lengths.

I just wish there was a way they could stop multiple voting, but I guess if they did they'd make about half as much as they would normally.

What happened to lon_chaney?

If they wanted to keep Marc it was pretty simple. He and Sam had the most nominations, he'd more than likely have won a head to head VTE as his supporters would have a single target. No idea why they don't seem to want head to heads this series, we've only had a couple and only because Jack used his immunity pass.

Well unfortunately it would work against what the show want - as they'll take as many votes as they can get to help pay for the whole thing

But, as I mentioned with Vote to Stay, as you've usually got a 3, 4 or 5-way vote, it doesn't matter if one person gets 16 bazillion positive votes ... Only one person leaves, so it's much more democratic

Which is why we couldn't elect a government on negative votes - we'd get really weird results

If you think about voting in a government with Vote to Evict

Well, first every supporter of every party will vote against the Conservatives - because they're the competition ... 1/3rd of the country might vote Conservative, but 2/3rds want them out the way ... We NEVER get another Conservative government

Then everyone - the Lib Dems, SNP, Greens, etc - would go after Labour, because they're the next biggest threat ... And ultimately it would come down to a race between all the smallest parties, and one would slightly edge it, and we'd probably have the SNP or Britain First in government ... Not very democratic

Not quite as unfair as someone being immune for 4 weeks.

I personally think that because so many people new Marc was the favourite and they were fans of other housemates they all knew this was the only chance to get rid of Marc and to try and get their favourite to win, hence why Marc got so many multiple votes from all the other contestants fans. I voted twice to get Marc out and I don't usually vote but I tried 3 previous times last night and couldn't get through so had a feeling that a lot of people were voting for him!